Next Generation Z?

Holliday · 09-17-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cell

I actually heard that car has a ton of problems.

Me too! HAHA! But the fact of the matter is, it's 2010 and they already have this kind of technology knocking at the consumer door.

It won't be long before congress legalizes marijuana and we are driving hybrid and electric cars

Mercennarius · 09-17-2010, 06:46 PM

Nissan won't be borrowing any of Mercedes engines, those are all rumors are heresay. The Daimler alliance is about sharing EV technologies, Daimler has no in house EV technology so they are going to utilize Nissans. Nissan also wants to maximize its production of its new battery technology to recoupe development costs and be considered the industry leader in EV production. Nissan produces more V6s at a cheaper price then Mercedes can, Nissans V6s are more potent, fuel efficient, and reliable. Nissans V6s have been class leading for many years now, no reason to "downgrade" to a Mercedes engine.

Nissan won't use the VR has its cost of production is to high(its partly hand built), the Z will continue to use a mass produced V6 similar to whats found in other future Nissan vehicles. The VR is also meant to be "special" in a way by only being found in the GTR, putting it in another vehicle would take away some of the uniqueness of Nissans supercar.

I would expect Nissan to adopt direct injection on their next generation V6s. They very well may continue to evolve the VQ line as it has largely been a success for Nissan both on the cost efficient side of things as well as the power/fuel consumption side. I don't for see displacement getting much if any larger for Nissans V6s as the CAFEs fuel economy standards are only getting stricter. Direct injection would help fuel economy and torque production without increasing displacement Nissan is likely to incorporate their "DIG-T" technology found in the new MR16DDT engine in the Juke. DIG-T stands for Direct Injected Gasoline Turbo-charged, Nissans new MR16DDT has proved that this technology is both fuel efficient, good for making power, and cost efficient. I'd expect to see displacement in the 3.0L-3.8L range with something similar to the DIG-T configuration.

Cell · 09-17-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius

Nissan won't be borrowing any of Mercedes engines, those are all rumors are heresay. The Daimler alliance is about sharing EV technologies, Daimler has no in house EV technology so they are going to utilize Nissans. Nissan also wants to maximize its production of its new battery technology to recoupe development costs and be considered the industry leader in EV production. Nissan produces more V6s at a cheaper price then Mercedes can, Nissans V6s are more potent, fuel efficient, and reliable. Nissans V6s have been class leading for many years now, no reason to "downgrade" to a Mercedes engine.

Nissan won't use the VR has its cost of production is to high(its partly hand built), the Z will continue to use a mass produced V6 similar to whats found in other future Nissan vehicles. The VR is also meant to be "special" in a way by only being found in the GTR, putting it in another vehicle would take away some of the uniqueness of Nissans supercar.

I would expect Nissan to adopt direct injection on their next generation V6s. They very well may continue to evolve the VQ line as it has largely been a success for Nissan both on the cost efficient side of things as well as the power/fuel consumption side. I don't for see displacement getting much if any larger for Nissans V6s as the CAFEs fuel economy standards are only getting stricter. Direct injection would help fuel economy and torque production without increasing displacement Nissan is likely to incorporate their "DIG-T" technology found in the new MR16DDT engine in the Juke. DIG-T stands for Direct Injected Gasoline Turbo-charged, Nissans new MR16DDT has proved that this technology is both fuel efficient, good for making power, and cost efficient. I'd expect to see displacement in the 3.0L-3.8L range with something similar to the DIG-T configuration.

Sorry but I just had to say that the rumors are not hearsay. Hearsay is used in courts not on the forums.

optiontrader · 09-18-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius

I would expect Nissan to adopt direct injection on their next generation V6s. They very well may continue to evolve the VQ line as it has largely been a success for Nissan both on the cost efficient side of things as well as the power/fuel consumption side. I don't for see displacement getting much if any larger for Nissans V6s as the CAFEs fuel economy standards are only getting stricter. Direct injection would help fuel economy and torque production without increasing displacement Nissan is likely to incorporate their "DIG-T" technology found in the new MR16DDT engine in the Juke. DIG-T stands for Direct Injected Gasoline Turbo-charged, Nissans new MR16DDT has proved that this technology is both fuel efficient, good for making power, and cost efficient. I'd expect to see displacement in the 3.0L-3.8L range with something similar to the DIG-T configuration.

I believe this is the road ahead too. I'm still wondering why Nissan hasn't incorporated gasoline direct injection in their higher displacement cars yet. Even the GT-R is still conventional EFI, I believe.

Mercennarius · 09-18-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by optiontrader

I believe this is the road ahead too. I'm still wondering why Nissan hasn't incorporated gasoline direct injection in their higher displacement cars yet. Even the GT-R is still conventional EFI, I believe.

Nissans new 5.6L found in the Nissan Patrol/Infiniti QX56/Infiniti M56 has Direct Injection and makes 420HP/417TQ.

theDreamer · 09-18-2010, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercennarius

Nissans new 5.6L found in the Nissan Patrol/Infiniti QX56/Infiniti M56 has Direct Injection and makes 420HP/417TQ.

The new Juke will be DI also, smaller engine, but more testing

optiontrader · 09-18-2010, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercennarius

Nissans new 5.6L found in the Nissan Patrol/Infiniti QX56/Infiniti M56 has Direct Injection and makes 420HP/417TQ.

Oh, that's right - +1 rep for ya on reminding me of that one!

zrider · 09-20-2010, 11:44 PM

i would LOVE a direct injection turbo. MMMMMM

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09-17-2010, 06:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mercennarius Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 160 Drives: Nissan Rep Power: 18	Nissan won't be borrowing any of Mercedes engines, those are all rumors are heresay. The Daimler alliance is about sharing EV technologies, Daimler has no in house EV technology so they are going to utilize Nissans. Nissan also wants to maximize its production of its new battery technology to recoupe development costs and be considered the industry leader in EV production. Nissan produces more V6s at a cheaper price then Mercedes can, Nissans V6s are more potent, fuel efficient, and reliable. Nissans V6s have been class leading for many years now, no reason to "downgrade" to a Mercedes engine. Nissan won't use the VR has its cost of production is to high(its partly hand built), the Z will continue to use a mass produced V6 similar to whats found in other future Nissan vehicles. The VR is also meant to be "special" in a way by only being found in the GTR, putting it in another vehicle would take away some of the uniqueness of Nissans supercar. I would expect Nissan to adopt direct injection on their next generation V6s. They very well may continue to evolve the VQ line as it has largely been a success for Nissan both on the cost efficient side of things as well as the power/fuel consumption side. I don't for see displacement getting much if any larger for Nissans V6s as the CAFEs fuel economy standards are only getting stricter. Direct injection would help fuel economy and torque production without increasing displacement Nissan is likely to incorporate their "DIG-T" technology found in the new MR16DDT engine in the Juke. DIG-T stands for Direct Injected Gasoline Turbo-charged, Nissans new MR16DDT has proved that this technology is both fuel efficient, good for making power, and cost efficient. I'd expect to see displacement in the 3.0L-3.8L range with something similar to the DIG-T configuration.

09-20-2010, 11:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
zrider Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 175 Drives: 2009 370z Black M/T Rep Power: 17	i would LOVE a direct injection turbo. MMMMMM