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I'd bet on a mass produced, detuned version of the 3.8L twin turbo in the GT-R when the GT-R move "up" a notch in the future. The research and testing

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Old 09-15-2010, 02:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'd bet on a mass produced, detuned version of the 3.8L twin turbo in the GT-R when the GT-R move "up" a notch in the future. The research and testing is already done and that will help reduce R&D costs. The car needs little or nothing in the handling department but is being assaulted in the power department on several fronts.
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I'd bet on a mass produced, detuned version of the 3.8L twin turbo in the GT-R when the GT-R move "up" a notch in the future. The research and testing is already done and that will help reduce R&D costs. The car needs little or nothing in the handling department but is being assaulted in the power department on several fronts.
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Yes...TURBOS!
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With the 'going green' reality and strict emissions requirements coming into effect, expect the next gen Z to be smaller displacement with forced induction. While some manufacturers are coming out with hybrid performance systems, I think it's a long shot for the Z given the price-point.
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With the 'going green' reality and strict emissions requirements coming into effect, expect the next gen Z to be smaller displacement with forced induction. While some manufacturers are coming out with hybrid performance systems, I think it's a long shot for the Z given the price-point.
I'd like to see a straight-six with FI
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I'm hoping the next gen Z goes on a strict weight reduction diet using more lightweight materials. They should fine tune the driving characteristics for a more connected & lighter feel. Although the Z drives like its on rails around the bends, it "feels" heavy.

The V6 is almost a guarantee (might even have a Merc. engine) but the VQ is close to its limits. A new Nissan n/a V6 engine churning out close to the 400hp mark isn't impossible given the amount of time before a re-design. Electric motors might show up if the Leaf takes off, although probably limited to a boost type setup. I'm just hoping they refine the engine & transmission sounds. As much as I love the power the 370 has, the engine sound/noise at high rpm's sounds like a tin can filled with rocks & giant fan blowing in the back. I don't know about everyone else, but I'm the type that would rather listen to a good sounding engine than a pimped out stereo system any day of the week.

Price point is going to be the biggest hurdle. Keeping the price affordable while increasing performance & quality can make or break the Z legacy.
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Curb weight - 3300lbs
Twin turbo 6 - 370hp/350ft-lb TQ
A proper mechanical LSD
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I doubt this will ever happen, but I want to see a 400Z with a 4L V8 that revs to at least 8,500rpm and makes 380+ hp with a true dual clutch manual as an option.
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Am I the only one that prefers supercharging?
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Am I the only one that prefers supercharging?
sc is nice but it wouldnt give the efficiency that a TT would give.

i could imagine a TT sport model that bypasses the turbo's for cruising/normal driving upping the mileage / efficiency. hrmm
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From the factory I much prefer the TT. TT has more potential. But if I went FI with my Z I would probably get a GTM SC kit just because it is cheaper.
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How about the VK50VE out of the FX50? 390hp and that CUV sprints to 60 in 5 seconds. I don't see why that wouldn't at least match the Mustang 5.0 in terms of fuel economy. Trouble would be weight balance, push it as far back as possible and put the whole car on a diet. Would be a cool name too, 500Z!!!
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weight distribution i dont think is a major issue. If they put a massive engine in the front they can move the whole transmission to the rear. From a physics perspective I like this better in terms of efficiency (less power loss)
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I think nissan has just about gotten all there gonna get out of the v6
that being said not that they need to or won't to but to compete with the
mustangs and camaro's how about a good old american v8.

i'll think twice before buying another z if they only give lip service to the power train. you get use to certain sounds and the z still can sound bad xss
but i rode in a camaro ss the other day and damn that v8 sounded sweet.
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how about a good old american v8.
Not sure where the VK50 is made but the VK56 in the Titan sounds sweet and it's built in Tennessee. I've seen some mad 350s and a G35 with a VK56 swapped in, makes for a good drift car.
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