please tell me that's a typo :confused:

I don't know about you guys, but I cannot justify the price of a Porsche. 99% of them are built the same way most cars are which is through a mass production line. Depending on what body panels and parts go on it, it determines whether it turns into a convertible or not or etc...

The only thing you pay for with the increased price is better materials and for the name.

Porsches are just like Apple Iphones, they are over priced for what you get. There are tons of other phones out there that has similar features for less.

It would be different for me if I was filthy rich. If I was rich then I wouldn't mind buying a Porsche.

It was a joke... :ugh2:

If the iPhone analogy holds for the Porsche, I'm buying a Porsche. Other phones have similar features but none integrate them as seamlessly and have the aesthetic appeal as the iPhone. Porsche is probably the same.

I don't know about that. I have bought 2 iphones and yet I am still more pleased with the features on an android phone then any iphone I have ever touched.

If I can afford a 100k Porsche, I would take a ZR-1 over a 100k Porsche.

The Porsche design may be a little lazy, but you can't deny the heritage behind the badge. As much as I like all things Nissan, you can't help but respect what the Porsche brand has done for sports cars in general. Competition leads to better, faster cars. Having the Z come within reach of its Porsche counterparts is a milestone considering its nearly half the cost to purchase & maintain.

and a prius owner can say the same thing, they are all made the same so why pay more money for the Z. You still dont get the concept of having alot of money and nothing to spend it on I think.

Lets look at it this way: A guy buys a porsche over a 370z for the same reason a guy buys a 370Z over a honda civic. Style points.

If you read my last comment then you can see I do understand what you are saying. Prius is far from a sports car. If I wanted to go green then a prius would be one of the options. But it isn't. Sports car for sports car, If I had the money for a porsche, I would buy a corvette over a porsche. If I only had two options between the prius and the porsche, of course I would take a porsche.

My point is that some of you guys make it sound like the fit and finish is 10 times better than a 370z. To me I the 370z's fit and finish is pretty good as it is. The difference is just the materials. A porsche just has a better feel on everything. That is only one of the reasons why it costs more.

Buy whatever makes you happy and whatever you think is the best value for your situation.

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except for mustangs, they are in the same group as Prius. JK stang.

I agree. The gas mileage is very close. :bowrofl:

I would have thought with the Prius being faster than the new stangs they would be worse in the MPG area. LOL.

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So how does the power feel to the Z?

check your PMs...

didnt get any

patience, grasshoppa!

I ran a 12.9. After mods our car is right there. What this means is put Joe blow Carrera S or caymen S driver on the line next to me at the track and I could beat them. Our car is right there..

Mine is a manual as well.

12.6 was done with my mods plus gears and long tubes . The Z does not disapoint. I'm guessing we will see better times as weather cools . We need more 12 sec Z's!

I test drove an '06 Cayman S (along with a G37S coupe, 335i coupe, and a Prius [JK!]) before I settled on a Z. The Porsche is an AMAZING car - it's almost difficult to put into words. From the sitting position, feel of the shifter, to the way it "snakes" around curves, up to that phenomenal sound of that engine just behind your head.

Unfortunately, it was used, had 30k miles, and was still stickering at $45k. It also had a lovely "air freshener" smell which likened it to a rental inside.

BUT IT'S SPECTACULAR.

We buy our Z's since that would be the best financial sense for us. I can't afford a new Cayman S; and most Porsche customers who usually dole out cash or hefty down payments for their cars, don't even consider a Z.

Yes there are comparisons, but we've got two completely different classes of cars here. The Z is plenty fun; and if I had the money (we're putting a downpayment on a house), I would've gotten a newer Cayman S instead of the Z.

But hey, getting a house AND a Z-car. Win-Win, in my book. :TU:

Amen!!!

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Porsche is better at getting more power to the wheels. Also, the power figures for the Carrera are pre-PDK, so that can't be the reason.

You don't need to be "filthy rich" to buy the Porsche, just reasonably affluent. Now tell me, what is "filthy" about being rich?

My mom told me never put money in my mouth 'cause it's dirty -- being handled by so many people. Very rich people take baths in their money hence "filthy" rich. :)

Zaggeron explained it.

Well maybe not filthy rich to own a low end Porsche but even then, the maintenance itself is over priced. You cannot just consider the price of the car. You have to consider the cost of everything else too. Unless you do it yourself for everything then it may be a bit different.

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Read my post again..... Do a little analyzing and see if you make sense....
Thanks.
If you fail, I will type the same post in more comprehendible way just for you...

huhhh.... :ugh: ?

Thank you... It is sad/annoying that some people don't know the difference between they're/their, you're/your etc...

I read up to the 7th page, and I cant believe no one brought this up! I have owned over 20 cars from all over the world. Now I quoted to make a quick point. I have bought a number of cell phones as well. I have had 4 apple I phones. I now currently have a Droid, and I will be switching back to the Iphone within the next few weeks.

My reasoning behind this is, When there is a problem with my droid, they send me a phone number and have me call someone to discuss and it never gets resolved.

This reminds me of Nissan, I have had my car in the service Dept for a bad throw out bearing and other various things. Every time they told me that the symptom is "normal". Customer service is shoddy, and I even was told by my SALES person, that he gave me a key when I had the IOu for one, then he proceeded to call me a liar to his manager.

When I drove a BMW, Audi, even a corvette, the service department was more than helpful, and would replace parts for even preventative maint. They would make sure all of my concerns were addressed, and even would call me to see if I wanted a car wash.

At apple, When your Iphone is having trouble, You go to a retail location and they will fix it or replace it altogether.

THIS is what people pay for. The service behind the initial purchase.

Dont know what you are anal izing but you said the Z numbers were wrong and I said then the porsche numbers were to and if you correct the z numbers then correct the others numbers too and you get the same result, the Z getting beat. I tell you what just go race one and then post it on you tube for us to see.

After the same mods the porsche isback on top. were are going stock for stock in this thread.

Grow up, little boy!

By the way, why do you have a picture of a sedan for your avatar, but claim to race a Z?

cuz he dont no tha dif between 6 ft and 60 ft.

Here is some basic drag racing education....

13.8 @ 103mph that i got with my Z was done by having a 2.5x 60ft time. Generally every 0.1 of a 60ft time will yield 0.2 off of your ET...
A decent launch with a RWD street car is 2.1 60ft time that means I sucked launching the Z yet still got 13.8.

So by following this fact proves that the magazine number that the OP posted for the Z is either bogus or sucked at launching the car. But the problem is that magazines can do infinite launches to get the best time unlike myself. I was limited to 2 runs.

When the little boy wakes up, he might start spitting on you. Don't act like a little kid and grow up kiddo.
No i don't own a Z, i pretend to drive one..... :ughdance:

AND AGAIN, that probably applied to all 3 vehicles.

And AGAIN that can NOT be applied to all 3 vehicles because the other vehicles are known for those 1/4 mile times by other magazines and board but the Z isn't!

370s trap 105-107 in good DA and put down low 13 1/4mile numbers

Ive seen other car mags and what not post a 5.1 0 60 time for the 370Z and some that have noted 4.6, so there is a big swing for the Z. It might be when and where they did the test for all I know but the Z is not a 4.6 all the time car. And Ive seen the porsche numbers lower too out there.

And i agree. Track location/day/weather can swing the ET by almost a full second... But getting the slowest posted time from one magazine and comparing to one of the faster times from the other car is not the way you would compare two cars.

zeroto60 shows a 3.6 for the 09 carrera s so they havent used the lowest but I think the porsche have a more stable zone as they launch beetter than the Z does on the avg.