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Originally Posted by spearfish25 It's embarrassing that Nissan claims the Z makes 332hp and then only puts down 270-280. Where did you get that info? just curious

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Old 09-11-2010, 06:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It's embarrassing that Nissan claims the Z makes 332hp and then only puts down 270-280.
Where did you get that info? just curious
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Where did you get that info? just curious
So the Nissan spec sheet lists the Z at 332hp. The stock dynos on this forum are all in the 270-280whp range. If you look at the Porsche numbers I listed, there is only a 20hp disparity for the Carrera S. Driveline losses are different for the rear vs front engine, as someone astutely noted. But 270 from 332 is a huge difference.
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So the Nissan spec sheet lists the Z at 332hp. The stock dynos on this forum are all in the 270-280whp range. If you look at the Porsche numbers I listed, there is only a 20hp disparity for the Carrera S. Driveline losses are different for the rear vs front engine, as someone astutely noted. But 270 from 332 is a huge difference.
What you are missing is that Porsche is very conservative with their HP ratings.
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What you are missing is that Porsche is very conservative with their HP ratings.
true, I think most Euro cars are. My Audi was on the conservative side we found out.
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So the Nissan spec sheet lists the Z at 332hp. The stock dynos on this forum are all in the 270-280whp range. But 270 from 332 is a huge difference.
That's horrible!
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Don't forget the Cayman/Carrera are mid/rear engines, these usually experience less drivetrain losses than a front engine RWD
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Don't forget the Cayman/Carrera are mid/rear engines, these usually experience less drivetrain losses than a front engine RWD
That's another factor to take into consideration. And, did they all have the same type of gasoline and amount!
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Don't forget the Cayman/Carrera are mid/rear engines, these usually experience less drivetrain losses than a front engine RWD
Mid/rear engine cars tend to launch really well also. Great 60ft times.

Thats why you see STI's pulling 0-60 in 4.6 seconds and as fast as 12.9 stock, they have major drivetrain loss due to AWD, IRC they make only about 240whp, but make up for it in wicked off the line traction.
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There not comparing apples to apples.

How about comparing the 370 with any other 2 seat sports car
with a v6 that cost under 40 grand.
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There not comparing apples to apples.

How about comparing the 370 with any other 2 seat sports car
with a v6 that cost under 40 grand.
Here we go again, I cant beat the other car so mine is still better cuz its cheaper and is almost as fast. Well there are other things than spped with cars like Porsche and Audi and BMW. All around quality and even status quo.
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Here we go again, I cant beat the other car so mine is still better cuz its cheaper and is almost as fast. Well there are other things than spped with cars like Porsche and Audi and BMW. All around quality and even status quo.
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Zero to 130 mph: 21.1 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.1 sec @ 108 mph
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I think we will be hard pressed to get that 0 60 time on an avg road and an avg driver. Really need a great 60 ft to get that.
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There not comparing apples to apples.

How about comparing the 370 with any other 2 seat sports car
with a v6 that cost under 40 grand.
The top price for a Z is 47k on the convert. A boxster starts where the Z ends and the cayman is just a few thousand more. Its not a perfect match but an honest comparison,
The flipside is. In spite of the fact. You can get a base Z for thousands less giving u. 2/3 the experience of a porsche. Its still a great car and in the right hands a Z can do the quarter in 13.1 seconds. That's nothin to sneeze at. You can go a lot faster, if you spend the same money and buy a camaro SS or mustang GT, but you lose handling.
The Z has no real comp under 40k anyway. The solstice coupe never happened, plus they were 4 bangers and every other so-called competitor is either a GT or roadster. At the end of the day. Porsche is a semi handbuilt sports car that revoltionizes the sports car arena in some form or fashion every decade. The Z is just trying to mimmick porsche performance at low cost. In my opinion, No Matter What is Said Here In This Thread! Even with all the Z shortfalls, The Z does a pretty good job at showing the lower income crowd how more expensive cars put in work. If you can afford a cayman S and its $200/15,000mi, oil changes. I don't even see why you'd even consider or compare a Z.
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The top price for a Z is 47k on the convert. A boxster starts where the Z ends and the cayman is just a few thousand more. Its not a perfect match but an honest comparison,
The flipside is. In spite of the fact. You can get a base Z for thousands less giving u. 2/3 the experience of a porsche. Its still a great car and in the right hands a Z can do the quarter in 13.1 seconds. That's nothin to sneeze at. You can go a lot faster, if you spend the same money and buy a camaro SS or mustang GT, but you lose handling.
The Z has no real comp under 40k anyway. The solstice coupe never happened, plus they were 4 bangers and every other so-called competitor is either a GT or roadster. At the end of the day. Porsche is a semi handbuilt sports car that revoltionizes the sports car arena in some form or fashion every decade. The Z is just trying to mimmick porsche performance at low cost. In my opinion, No Matter What is Said Here In This Thread! Even with all the Z shortfalls, The Z does a pretty good job at showing the lower income crowd how more expensive cars put in work. If you can afford a cayman S and its $200/15,000mi, oil changes. I don't even see why you'd even consider or compare a Z.

Because the cayman looks generic and I happen to enjoy being able to actually work on my car.
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