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True enough...but the civic isn't an all around car.....its desgned and built for one purpose. The modded NA vs the Modded TC ......in the begining basica mods favor the FI

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Old 03-18-2009, 08:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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True enough...but the civic isn't an all around car.....its desgned and built for one purpose.

The modded NA vs the Modded TC ......in the begining basica mods favor the FI vehicle.

But if you address the "balance issue" for instance.

I've a customer with an ALL motor 537 RWHP GTO....heavy car. Not only did he add hp, swapped out to drag springs, gears( nothing crazy) a few suspension tweaks.

We have personally seen him crush....CRUSH s/c GT500 Kr at the track. and ride home
with the car only to change pressure.

HP is a good thing....too little is no good...too much....and you don't have balance.



In regards to the UGLY stick......Hyundia didn't compromise on the spec r so handling will be no issue... even the 3.8 Genesis coupe 'felt better than a G37" if only a tad slower in the slolom.

And Ugly....well they did target the Nissan....and i for one think its a sharp looking vehicle.

Sounds to me that imatation is the best form of flattery. A black Gen with the wing
and its Brembo's 4 pot on EACH corner... is a excellent plateform

This car list for almost 7k less than a base /sport 370Z and will be lighter.
(spec r) Do you have any idea how tastefully modded this car can be at the same price.


Your ugly opinion is fine.Thats your right. But i for one think it looks good and its a Hyundai.....gotta sting just a little. What else can you say about it. The Sonata has proven itself to be reliable , able to take abuse and fairly sporting for a "family sedan"


Your gonna be shocked. Not to say its better than the 370Z but surely lets wait till the spec r is fully tested. You do know about its 3 second power reduction if you tag redline right? thats why the 3.8 Genesis did poorly....as the tach or any tach isn't quite quick enough to keep up with actual engine speed. THREE SECOND power reduction... thats the first thing tuners will tune out, to .5 seconds.

however there is no word on the spec r' s torque managment.......but 7k in mods can fix and improve beyond the 370Z.

I for one wish i waited....at very least to test on them same day
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As i said this discussion was stock VS stock. I am not sure why you keep bringing up modded vs modded discussion........
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True enough...but the civic isn't an all around car.....its desgned and built for one purpose.

The modded NA vs the Modded TC ......in the begining basica mods favor the FI vehicle.

But if you address the "balance issue" for instance.

I've a customer with an ALL motor 537 RWHP GTO....heavy car. Not only did he add hp, swapped out to drag springs, gears( nothing crazy) a few suspension tweaks.

We have personally seen him crush....CRUSH s/c GT500 Kr at the track. and ride home
with the car only to change pressure.

HP is a good thing....too little is no good...too much....and you don't have balance.
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In regards to the UGLY stick......Hyundia didn't compromise on the spec r so handling will be no issue... even the 3.8 Genesis coupe 'felt better than a G37" if only a tad slower in the slolom.

And Ugly....well they did target the Nissan....and i for one think its a sharp looking vehicle.

Sounds to me that imatation is the best form of flattery. A black Gen with the wing
and its Brembo's 4 pot on EACH corner... is a excellent plateform

This car list for almost 7k less than a base /sport 370Z and will be lighter.
(spec r) Do you have any idea how tastefully modded this car can be at the same price.
Yeah, it's my opinion that the Genesis coupe is shapeless at best, and generally poor looking. It looks and performs (thus far) nothing like the Z, so I'm not sure which part of the Genesis is imitating the Z. Targeting maybe, but then again the Z is targeting the Cayman. Does the Z look or drive like a Cayman?

Hyundai didn't compromise... what does that mean to Hyundai or anyone for that matter? They have to compromise like any other manufacturer not making true race cars. The question isn't whether they compromised, but rather how much did they have to compromise to keep costs at 22k. There's a whole lot of slop that can't be compensated by a modest weight advantage. Felt better than a G37... so the Gen "felt" better than a luxury car, and lost to it in the slalom anyway. That contradicts your point.

All the reviews are going to look something like this: "The Z is clearly the better car, but for the price the Genesis coupe is a respectable first effort."
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One more thing, if the Genesis coupe gets 7k in mods, then a Yaris gets 18k. Or a craigslist used riding lawn mower gets 29k. Kinda pointless.

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Yeah, it's my opinion that the Genesis coupe is shapeless at best, and generally poor looking. It looks and performs (thus far) nothing like the Z, so I'm not sure which part of the Genesis is imitating the Z. Targeting maybe, but then again the Z is targeting the Cayman. Does the Z look or drive like a Cayman?

Hyundai didn't compromise... what does that mean to Hyundai or anyone for that matter? They have to compromise like any other manufacturer not making true race cars. The question isn't whether they compromised, but rather how much did they have to compromise to keep costs at 22k. There's a whole lot of slop that can't be compensated by a modest weight advantage. Felt better than a G37... so the Gen "felt" better than a luxury car, and lost to it in the slalom anyway. That contradicts your point.

All the reviews are going to look something like this: "The Z is clearly the better car, but for the price the Genesis coupe is a respectable first effort."
we are talking a hyuindai 2.0t vs a 3.7 i love tinkinry and with 7k in mod it gt pontetial...loos good and for the same price wll kill nissan..the undrog nissn
case clsewont yo be enbarrade


the modded srt4 killid the a turbo cocky 350 z he was emarrassed

and hhe spent the same wene we talked.

afternarted for the genesis 2.0t s in full gear and it looks sharp regardlless of what you say
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