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just out of curiosity. before TCS/VDC, how did people drive RWD cars. obviously, many people on this forum have driven them and lived to tell, so why is it these

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Old 08-20-2010, 07:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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just out of curiosity. before TCS/VDC, how did people drive RWD cars. obviously, many people on this forum have driven them and lived to tell, so why is it these newer cars with more tech, that everyone crashes if you turn off the nanny's.
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It happens. I crashed a car at 19 because the rear end got away from me while driving in a straight line. It had just started raining and the road was greasy. I come up on an asian chick in front of me who was driving like an old lady, I gas it for a legal pass and the stupid slush box automatic kicks down to 1st gear and then chirps 2nd as I get along side her. At that point things started to go wrong. The rear starts getting loose and all of a sudden I have a very intimate view of the drivers door of the other car. I madly correct with opposite lock and the car starts to come back the other way but I didn't get the steering unwound fast enough and I spin in the opposite direction collecting the nearest tree and a curb. Mind you I had crappy skinny bald tires on this big chunk of tin, but the real problem was that it just caught me off guard when I wasn't prepared. That is why there is VDC these days.
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just out of curiosity. before TCS/VDC, how did people drive RWD cars. obviously, many people on this forum have driven them and lived to tell, so why is it these newer cars with more tech, that everyone crashes if you turn off the nanny's.
In the late 70s and 80's, most non-compact cars were still RWD. But that was before they were really able to make up for all the EPA gimos on the cars. So called performance V8s could have a whopping 200 hp on a 3400lb car. Most standard mid or full size sedans or coupes had even less during that period. Pretty tough to spin the wheels by accident in those cars. So if your experiences with RWD were with cars from that period, it might take some getting used to driving a modern performance RWD car.
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just out of curiosity. before TCS/VDC, how did people drive RWD cars. obviously, many people on this forum have driven them and lived to tell, so why is it these newer cars with more tech, that everyone crashes if you turn off the nanny's.
Um, we know how to drive and don't depend on VDC to keep the car on the road nor require a backup cam to park it safely?

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In the late 70s and 80's, most non-compact cars were still RWD. But that was before they were really able to make up for all the EPA gimos on the cars. So called performance V8s could have a whopping 200 hp on a 3400lb car. Most standard mid or full size sedans or coupes had even less during that period. Pretty tough to spin the wheels by accident in those cars. So if your experiences with RWD were with cars from that period, it might take some getting used to driving a modern performance RWD car.
Let's go back a few more years when there were real muscle cars with way more hp/tq and crappy suspension/tires. Can't spin em, eh? And then you'd drive them in the ice/snow because you couldn't afford a second car for the winter. My, how things change.
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Let's go back a few more years when there were real muscle cars with way more hp/tq and crappy suspension/tires. Can't spin em, eh? And then you'd drive them in the ice/snow because you couldn't afford a second car for the winter. My, how things change.
The real muscle cars from that era were already too expensive for your average Joe's first car by the mid to late 90s. I'm guessing that most under 30s who say they started on RWD cars are not talking about Chevelle 454s
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