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jacknismo 07-17-2010 10:49 PM

well folks.... i may or may not blow my engine... there's only one way to find out....
live or let die

SkyZ 07-17-2010 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jacknismo (Post 630630)
well folks.... i may or may not blow my engine... there's only one way to find out....
live or let die

well seems like u had ur answer in ur head all along. no need to post a thread and then reject all the ideas. through you we shall see how well the Z engine is built.

TreeSemdyZee 07-17-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 630611)
Better example would be NASCAR in the late 90s before they outlawed qualifying engines... An engine that would last only two laps. :tup:

Longer than my attention span :icon14:

m4a1mustang 07-17-2010 11:07 PM

Or the old Can Am cars that would qualify at 1500 hp but turn it down to 1000 for the race. :D

AndyZ 07-18-2010 12:02 AM

As you said you dont want to harm your engine then shift it to 6th
Or just stay on 3rd whole time and say good bye to the engine in couple month(maybe even less)

AndyZ 07-18-2010 12:07 AM

Oh dont forget about oil temp
Evenwith cruise on "6th" gear gets high temp
And redlining allday will get even more oil temp and practically same as running with out oil(you know what this means)
Good luck

Hugoneus 07-18-2010 01:04 AM

What you should do is always drive in reverse. Not only this would keep the car's RPM pretty high (on the highway), it would add a whole new dimension of excitement.

Just make sure the VDC is on and you are good to go buddy!

TongMan 07-18-2010 02:16 AM

Cruise in 3rd on the highway and 1st in the city. Immediate response all the time. You show that nismo who's boss!!

ZedZed 07-18-2010 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 630373)
:wtf2:

This thread is hilarious :bowrofl: but I'll also :wtf2:

Chriz 07-18-2010 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 630910)
Cruise in 3rd on the highway and 1st in the city. Immediate response all the time. You show that nismo who's boss!!

:iagree:
thats pretty much how i drive trust me its better this way.
Its a sports car, drive it the way it was ment to be driven.
It wont blow up or anything, the redline is there for a reason.

blastman5 07-18-2010 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugoneus (Post 630857)
What you should do is always drive in reverse. Not only this would keep the car's RPM pretty high (on the highway), it would add a whole new dimension of excitement.

Just make sure the VDC is on and you are good to go buddy!

hahaha yea i agree drive it in reverse....it changes the game up and gives u a new thrill....best of luck to u and please dont drive in southern california

zippin 07-18-2010 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jacknismo (Post 630359)
I'm a newb to manual....

Is it ok to constantly switch gears at nearly redline on each gear?

I love speed!

Also, is it ok to cruise on the highway on 3rd or 4th gear the whole time???
i dont care for fuel economy... i just want to rag the hell out of my nismo but not harm the engine...





My nismo is a month old and has 3000 miles already!

This is why I don't buy used sports cars....

spearfish25 07-18-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 630605)
While I totally agree with your reasoning, your facts are hinkey. 19 races. 8 allowed engines. Most teams don't use all of the engines.
Maybe the better statement is "there's a reason F1 engines cost as much as they do".
Plus, there are no pedestrians on an F1 track.

I was waiting to be corrected :). So let me modify my statement to: "There is a reason F1 engines only last three races."

And I beg to differ about the pedestrians...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ODqjElFEU

shadow2k 07-18-2010 07:59 AM

Did you really say "That's how I roll"? And "live or let die?"

You need to turn off VDC and repeat the following:

I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
I live my life a quarter mile at a time.

Hi-Step'n370Z 07-18-2010 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 630473)
Just go ahead a reach the fuel cut-off everytime you shift. It is more fun!

Actually, I have been wanting to post a question to this Forum about something I thought I heard about the 370Z engine, and this seems like a good time to do it.

It has been my understanding that there is a built in "cut-off" that prevents us from blowing the engine by revving the engine too high, and if we get a certain type of "tune up", that feature will be no longer effective.

With the effortless and rapid speed that this engine will rev past red line, it is an all too easy thing to do, even among the most conscientious of us.

Can anyone confirm - explain this?

m4a1mustang 07-18-2010 08:33 AM

A tune can bump the rev limiter up a bit. Someone here was running to 8100 RPM.

Hi-Step'n370Z 07-18-2010 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 631072)
A tune can bump the rev limiter up a bit. Someone here was running to 8100 RPM.


Thanks m4a1mustang for the reply.

Yes, now that you said it, that's what I remember hearing, the "rev limiter."
I was under the belief that the rev limiter will prevent the driver from blowing the engine because of high revs - BY MISTAKE - OR ONLY ONCE IN A WHILE.

Does the rev limiter actually prevent this by not allowing the engine to rev high enough to cause a problem?

m4a1mustang 07-18-2010 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hi-Step'n370Z (Post 631099)
Thanks m4a1mustang for the reply.

Yes, now that you said it, that's what I remember hearing, the "rev limiter."
I was under the belief that the rev limiter will prevent the driver from blowing the engine because of high revs - BY MISTAKE - OR ONLY ONCE IN A WHILE.

Does the rev limiter actually prevent this by not allowing the engine to rev high enough to cause a problem?

If you are accelerating and forget to shift on time, yes, the limiter will kick in and keep you from over revving the engine. The limiter, however, will not save your butt if you accidentally shift from second to first instead of third.

KaienZ34 07-18-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ct Chip (Post 630587)
Note to self: Never buy used Z from jacknismo.:rofl2:


Yes can we get the vin number, that way when you sell or trade it in we'll know what Z NOT to get...:driving:

Hi-Step'n370Z 07-18-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 631104)
If you are accelerating and forget to shift on time, yes, the limiter will kick in and keep you from over revving the engine. The limiter, however, will not save your butt if you accidentally shift from second to first instead of third.

Got it! Thanks.

I want to address this happening with the 7 speed auto:

Since this is something I do not want to replicate to find out, I instead have just been very careful and aware when I switch over to manual mode, and down shift.

It would seem that when you're cruising at highway speed, then slide over to manual mode, and your in 7th, or maybe 6th, the gear you're in would not change, but it DOES. It does not simply change to manual mode, and stay in the gear you were presently in before switching over to manual.

At normal highway speeds, it always goes to 5th gear the moment you slide over to manual. I do not know if you are already in 5th, and you switch over, what gear you're in, but I will gently try it and find out.

My point here is that if you "think" you're still in 7th, but you're really in 6th, or maybe even 5th, and you want to down shift into say 3rd, but you're not looking at the gear indicator window, and the tach at the same time, and pop the shifter 3 times, BOOM -you're all the way down to 2nd, and have revved well into the red line zone in a millisecond!

Talk about getting caught off guard! What a surprise that is.

When this happened, I have found is there is an instant decrease in power, and an intermittent surging of the engine. That is what I thought was the rev limiter doing it's job.

But, as you indicate, you're already into red line when that happens, but I don't think you're in far enough or long enough to do any damage to the engine, and the engine won't let you continue to accelerate thanks to the rev limiter.

To me, the answer was to "learn the Z" and practice by really watching the gear window, and note the speed you're traveling at the time of down shift.

KaienZ34 07-18-2010 09:45 AM

With the 7AT in normal D mode you don't have to switch to M mode too use the shifters just hit the down shift side and your good to go.

LunaZ 07-18-2010 09:55 AM

I'm in for a set of Nismo wheels.

Hi-Step'n370Z 07-18-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 631166)
With the 7AT in normal D mode you don't have to switch to M mode too use the shifters just hit the down shift side and your good to go.


Thanks, I'll try that. Seems more reliable and fail safe.

I am curious to see if the first down shift will place me in 6th, or 5th gear though.

Just don't want to bang it into 2nd by mistake because I think I am in a higher gear than I am.

PapoZalsa 07-18-2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 631176)
I'm in for a set of Nismo wheels.

Me too!

sonic370 07-18-2010 06:51 PM

We've just been punked

The BlueMax 07-18-2010 11:14 PM

Lets let Jockamo do his thing, Atlanla is competitive town as far as commuting. Will see how durable the Zs drivetrain is after he's finished, who knows he might get good warrenty work done, especially if he payed too much for the car ;)

SkyZ 07-18-2010 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hi-Step'n370Z (Post 631148)
Got it! Thanks.

I want to address this happening with the 7 speed auto:

Since this is something I do not want to replicate to find out, I instead have just been very careful and aware when I switch over to manual mode, and down shift.

It would seem that when you're cruising at highway speed, then slide over to manual mode, and your in 7th, or maybe 6th, the gear you're in would not change, but it DOES. It does not simply change to manual mode, and stay in the gear you were presently in before switching over to manual.

At normal highway speeds, it always goes to 5th gear the moment you slide over to manual. I do not know if you are already in 5th, and you switch over, what gear you're in, but I will gently try it and find out.

My point here is that if you "think" you're still in 7th, but you're really in 6th, or maybe even 5th, and you want to down shift into say 3rd, but you're not looking at the gear indicator window, and the tach at the same time, and pop the shifter 3 times, BOOM -you're all the way down to 2nd, and have revved well into the red line zone in a millisecond!

Talk about getting caught off guard! What a surprise that is.

When this happened, I have found is there is an instant decrease in power, and an intermittent surging of the engine. That is what I thought was the rev limiter doing it's job.

But, as you indicate, you're already into red line when that happens, but I don't think you're in far enough or long enough to do any damage to the engine, and the engine won't let you continue to accelerate thanks to the rev limiter.

To me, the answer was to "learn the Z" and practice by really watching the gear window, and note the speed you're traveling at the time of down shift.

i believe 7at even in manual mode wont let u shift down if ur revs are too high. it just wont let you.

Z-Guy 07-18-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jacknismo (Post 630386)
i don't see the point in cruising where ever i go... if i wanted to do that i would have gotten a caddy....

that's just how i roll...

just curious in how to drive a manual...
such as how to drive it normal???
and how do you drive it fast all the time???

Dude, you need an attitude adjustment or your going to kill someone:shakes head:. Save the hot rodding for the track and like the previous quote said, drive in 6th or you put unnecessary ABUSE on the engine. Are you for real? I'm not trying to be rude, it just sounds like you don't have both oars in the water:ugh2:.

chimZEE370 07-19-2010 12:09 AM

It is perfectly fine to redline all the time as long as vdc is off!!

cruzmisl 07-19-2010 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 631893)
We've just been punked

probably someone from bimmerforums :stirthepot:

trent1331 07-19-2010 01:28 AM

trolls

everywhere.

:wtf2:

blastman5 07-19-2010 04:17 AM

i cant quite tell if this was meant to start a riot or if this was a legit question?? i dont think we will ever know....

Mt Tam I am 07-20-2010 09:58 AM

OP said: i like the immediate response when i punch the pedal without having to shift from 6th to 3rd or 4th....

The part that makes the least sense to me is , if you are all ready red lined, how do you punch it? You've left yourself nowhere to go.

Secondly, how many people have wanted to race with you while you are winding out a Z in third or fourth gear.

Zsteve 07-20-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by blastman5 (Post 632462)
i cant quite tell if this was meant to start a riot or if this was a legit question?? i dont think we will ever know....

who cares, it gives us a chance to have some fun on a stupid topic.

kenchan 07-20-2010 10:01 AM

i drive my honda Fit very hard at times... 21K and tranny has not exploded yet. :p

m4a1mustang 07-20-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 634947)
i drive my honda Fit very hard at times... 21K and tranny has not exploded yet. :p

Probably because even a transmission made out of rice paper could handle the whopping 6hp and 9lb-ft the Fit produces. :roflpuke2:

kenchan 07-20-2010 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 634955)
Probably because even a transmission made out of rice paper could handle the whopping 6hp and 9lb-ft the Fit produces. :roflpuke2:

:crying:

Modshack 07-20-2010 10:41 AM

After reading the OP's comments, there is only one conclusion I can come to:

The Dumbing down of America has succeeded beyond our wildest expectations..........:ugh2:

370Zsteve 07-20-2010 10:50 AM

Is this an old thread? Did it start on April 1?

:icon14:

370Zsteve 07-20-2010 10:51 AM

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