Dealer Scam? Need advise.

Zaggeron · 07-15-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rmorrow

I really believe that your auto purchase contract/finance document is a legal and binding document that will stand up in court (or arbitration if required). I believe that there is a requirement called the "One Document" rule governing a new car purchase. If the document shows a down payment, then the dealership will have a difficult time proving otherwise. There is an attorney in SoCal that specializes in these auto fraud and dispute cases. His name is Hal Rosner, of Rosner, Barry & Babbitt. The phone number is (800) 466-5366. By the way, I believe that Rosner answers auto dispute/fraud related questions for free on a website called UCAN.org.

+1

OP is likely at the point where he needs more than opinions from fellow forum members. Real legal advice on how to proceed is a good idea.

zZSoCalZz · 07-16-2010, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorrow

I really believe that your auto purchase contract/finance document is a legal and binding document that will stand up in court (or arbitration if required). I believe that there is a requirement called the "One Document" rule governing a new car purchase. If the document shows a down payment, then the dealership will have a difficult time proving otherwise. There is an attorney in SoCal that specializes in these auto fraud and dispute cases. His name is Hal Rosner, of Rosner, Barry & Babbitt. The phone number is (800) 466-5366. By the way, I believe that Rosner answers auto dispute/fraud related questions for free on a website called UCAN.org.

Thanks for that info buddy. Will check out the site and give him a call and see what he says.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaggeron

+1

OP is likely at the point where he needs more than opinions from fellow forum members. Real legal advice on how to proceed is a good idea.

No doubt... This has stressed me out to the point I couldn't sleep last night.

elmz · 07-16-2010, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorrow

There is an attorney in SoCal that specializes in these auto fraud and dispute cases. His name is Hal Rosner, of Rosner, Barry & Babbitt. The phone number is (800) 466-5366. By the way, I believe that Rosner answers auto dispute/fraud related questions for free on a website called UCAN.org.

Best response so far.

zZSoCalZz · 07-16-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by elmz

Best response so far.

Just left a question on the site.. Let see what he says.

SkyZ · 07-16-2010, 12:58 PM

not gonna add any thing to the great opinions already stated. just saying good luck.

zZSoCalZz · 07-16-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyZ

not gonna add any thing to the great opinions already stated. just saying good luck.

Thanks.

dudafunk · 07-16-2010, 01:28 PM

RECORD whatever u talk to them about now on, on ur cellphone.

zZSoCalZz · 07-16-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dudafunk

RECORD whatever u talk to them about now on, on ur cellphone.

Thanks. Will do.

rmorrow · 07-16-2010, 05:40 PM

I am curious to know what Rosner or one of his associates tell you. If for some reason he does not respond on the website, call him and explain the situation. It might only take a letter from him to the dealership to shut this down. I am SURE that the dealerships know him. I deal with attorneys every day. If Rosner does not respond, let me know. I have several attorney friends that would provide me with counsel on this gratis (free). They owe me for referrals.

zZSoCalZz · 07-16-2010, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorrow

I am curious to know what Rosner or one of his associates tell you. If for some reason he does not respond on the website, call him and explain the situation. It might only take a letter from him to the dealership to shut this down. I am SURE that the dealerships know him. I deal with attorneys every day. If Rosner does not respond, let me know. I have several attorney friends that would provide me with counsel on this gratis (free). They owe me for referrals.

Great. Thanks again. I will wait until Monday to see if I hear back from him and I'll let you know.

Zaggeron · 07-27-2010, 11:26 AM

Looks like someone at the dealership has an extra $1000 tax free. Glad it's not your problem anymore

zZSoCalZz · 07-27-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

Looks like someone at the dealership has an extra $1000 tax free. Glad it's not your problem anymore

Thanks,

yeah I was so relieved when I read the e-mail this morning. I really anticipated going to court and dealing with the whole mess. Taking time off work would have cost me a lot of $$$.

Modshack · 07-27-2010, 12:12 PM

Happy ending...

zZSoCalZz · 07-27-2010, 12:21 PM

How do I give rep points? Well deserved for most of you.

Zaggeron · 07-27-2010, 12:24 PM

On a post you find particularly worthy click the

below their "Rep Power" number

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rmorrow Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 79 Drives: 2010 370z Sports MT Rep Power: 16	I am curious to know what Rosner or one of his associates tell you. If for some reason he does not respond on the website, call him and explain the situation. It might only take a letter from him to the dealership to shut this down. I am SURE that the dealerships know him. I deal with attorneys every day. If Rosner does not respond, let me know. I have several attorney friends that would provide me with counsel on this gratis (free). They owe me for referrals.