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Originally Posted by kevr6 I've read this thread and have to laugh!! First the 7AT is NOT a faster car then our manual cars!!!! (especially ones' with short shifters!) ...

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Old 07-10-2010, 04:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've read this thread and have to laugh!! First the 7AT is NOT a faster car then our manual cars!!!! (especially ones' with short shifters!)
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To date any traditional torque converter automatic is still slower then a manual.
Oh how I wish this were still true as I loved the performance edge I HAD with a manual, but alas review after review shows the auto .1 to .2 seconds quicker in the quarter and MORE for a guy on the street that doesn't get paid to drag cars on a daily basis.

It pained me to get an auto...it really did...but I like performance and the best reviews I have seen all had autos (and interestingly enough...not the sport package 370s...thinking the extra rotational mass of the Sport package wheels and tires may slow it down a tick).

Anyway, my auto is quick. You should drive one sometime.
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sorry auto. there is nothing normal about the 7at in the 370.
if there's a car under 35 with a better one i would like to see it.
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Oh how I wish this were still true as I loved the performance edge I HAD with a manual, but alas review after review shows the auto .1 to .2 seconds quicker in the quarter and MORE for a guy on the street that doesn't get paid to drag cars on a daily basis.

It pained me to get an auto...it really did...but I like performance and the best reviews I have seen all had autos (and interestingly enough...not the sport package 370s...thinking the extra rotational mass of the Sport package wheels and tires may slow it down a tick).

Anyway, my auto is quick. You should drive one sometime.
I did drive one! I also have a short shifter(remember what I typed). 1/10 of a second...your kidding right! You know you can't feel that. Your actually pushing the arguement for a neglegible difference?
ALso: please provide the link or provide the magazine. I just haven't read that anywhere.
Keep in mind that I drive Audi's DSG all the time so I directly compared the two and didn't like the Z 7AT. Of course I hate the R8's R-tronic also which isn't a DSG. High speed shifting on the R8 sucked w/ that tranny. I loved the R8 manual though!!
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I did drive one! I also have a short shifter(remember what I typed). 1/10 of a second...your kidding right! You know you can't feel that. Your actually pushing the arguement for a neglegible difference?
ALso: please provide the link or provide the magazine. I just haven't read that anywhere.
Keep in mind that I drive Audi's DSG all the time so I directly compared the two and didn't like the Z 7AT. Of course I hate the R8's R-tronic also which isn't a DSG. High speed shifting on the R8 sucked w/ that tranny. I loved the R8 manual though!!
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I did drive one! I also have a short shifter(remember what I typed). 1/10 of a second...your kidding right! You know you can't feel that. Your actually pushing the arguement for a neglegible difference?
ALso: please provide the link or provide the magazine. I just haven't read that anywhere.
You can find many articles here on this site posted above. All of the quickest times reported were in automatic cars (and again, the base model seemed to be the quickest of them all...and I don't doubt that). One or two articles (I'll try to locate them) came flat out and talked about the automatic being quicker.

Anyway, it was .1 to .2 seconds, and yes, that does mean something to me. Silly maybe, but it does. Again though, that's with a professional driver. I would be willing to bet that 5 times out of 6 the same 370 owner would be more than .3 seconds or more quicker in the quarter with an auto than a manual.

I really like manuals now. I REALLY do. I spent a lot of time finding my former Maxima with one and LOVED it. Alas though, I think their time has come and gone. The autos are just that good. You are quicker, more consistent, able to focus on driving, and have a more dependable car for the most part.
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