Deciding between s2000 and 370z.

b1adesofcha0s · 10-14-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

I know this is off topic. But today I was driving home with my son and I came across a S2K coming out of a church parking lot. As I passed him I saw his eyes light up. As soon as I passed him he started in the opposite direction. He must of gunned it because when I looked in the rear view he was sideways, did a 180 and slide into the ditch in the opposite lane. I busted out laughing. My son said what a buster.

I should of turned around and asked if VDC was off. Then my luck the cops would have come and say we were racing.

Mt Tam I am · 10-15-2011, 02:12 PM

I have always loved the S2000. My buddy bought one new. It held its value better than the 350Z, as I priced them in 2006-07. I liked the way it drove too. Great handler.

Then a couple months ago I saw one in action at an autocross class. It took last place. The driver seemed alright but his times were so poor that my love of the S2000 waned to like. My time in the Z was 54 seconds, his 1:08. I realize this is anecdotal, but this is how impressions can be made.

The Z has grunt over S2000, but to say it is a "one trick pony", is not doing justice to it's handling.

Red__Zed · 10-15-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

I have always loved the S2000. My buddy bought one new. It held its value better than the 350Z, as I priced them in 2006-07. I liked the way it drove too. Great handler.

Then a couple months ago I saw one in action at an autocross class. It took last place. The driver seemed alright but his times were so poor that my love of the S2000 waned to like. My time in the Z was 54 seconds, his 1:08. I realize this is anecdotal, but this is how impressions can be made.

The Z has grunt over S2000, but to say it is a "one trick pony", is not doing justice to it's handling.

the s2000 runs a class up from the z, so your story most likely boils down to "crappy driver"

Mt Tam I am · 10-16-2011, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

the s2000 runs a class up from the z, so your story most likely boils down to "crappy driver"

It is always a "crappy driver". He seemed better than many that day but I'd like to think I could have done better with his beautiful car.

A class up so does that mean it ..... What does this entail if I may ask please.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

It is always a "crappy driver". He seemed better than many that day but I'd like to think I could have done better with his beautiful car.

A class up so does that mean it ..... What does this entail if I may ask please.

When you run autocross, the cars are divided into classes, of roughly, theoretically equal performance. The 370z was originally put into B stock, alongside cars like the EVO and the S2000. Because no one was able to be competitive with a SP z, it was classed down to C stock, with cars like the 350z, 300zx, base z3, sky and solstice (non-GXP). The nismo was kept up in B stock, because apparently being able to run obscenely fat tires carries a small advantage

Mt Tam I am · 10-17-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The nismo was kept up in B stock, because apparently being able to run obscenely fat tires carries a small advantage

Thanks for your answer. The Nismo part confuses me. Is it really in the B class?

Red__Zed · 10-17-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Thanks for your answer. The Nismo part confuses me. Is it really in the B class?

Yes. The ability to run huge tires on stock rims helps a bunch. I see guys running 305s up front on their nismos, competing with s2ks running 6.5" fronts....

Of course, autox isn't everything, and any z will eat an s on a road course....

Davey · 10-16-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

A class up so does that mean it ..... What does this entail if I may ask please.

The 370Z is a C-stock car, the S2000 is a B-stock car. It just means that for a typical autocross track the S2000 is considered a faster class of car.

But, as you saw, a better driver could put down shorter times in a slower car, though.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey

The 370Z is a C-stock car, the S2000 is a B-stock car. It just means that for a typical autocross track the S2000 is considered a faster class of car.

But, as you saw, a better driver could put down shorter times in a slower car, though.

yep. autocross is generally 70% driver, 30% tires until you get into the more competitive groups.

b1adesofcha0s · 10-16-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

yep. autocross is generally 70% driver, 30% tires until you get into the more competitive groups.

Sucks for me then, I don't have the driving skill (yet) to make up for my tires :P

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