What did you do with your Z today

pedZ · 12-07-2011, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

courtesyparts for me.

there's another site mwagner listed below in the interior/exterior section.
from my guess all Z's built before Sep2009 are affected. mine is Jun09 build so using the previous version lock JF00B.
JF00C onward appears to be working well.

my spare is a JF00D. <= looks like j-food

Maybe I missed the thread on this but what's the issue with the steering lock device?

kenchan · 12-07-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pedZ

Maybe I missed the thread on this but what's the issue with the backup steering lock device?

the steering lock device, if it fails to unlock, will prevent you from starting your car. the BCM gets an error message and your intelligent key light comes on your cluster. there's been many cases of this happening randomly to 2009 owners.

root cause is unknown, other then the lock appears to seize. but if this happens to someone, first try unplugging your battery. leave it off for a few min. low battery charge might be the first contributer to the problem. even try charging your battery for a few min if available.

if that doesnt work, do the edmunds trick of unlocking steering column and just bang the hell out of it moving it up and own. it could release the lock from its seized state. they had this problem on their tester GTR and this worked for them.

if that doesnt work you're out of luck. you need to replace the lock.
and that lock is wat's coming to me.

(btw, my car has not had this problem, just me being proactive).

sfearl1 · 12-07-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

the steering lock device, if it fails to unlock, will prevent you from starting your car. the BCM gets an error message and your intelligent key light comes on your cluster. there's been many cases of this happening randomly to 2009 owners.

root cause is unknown, other then the lock appears to seize. but if this happens to someone, first try unplugging your battery. leave it off for a few min. low battery charge might be the first contributer to the problem. even try charging your battery for a few min if available.

if that doesnt work, do the edmunds trick of unlocking steering column and just bang the hell out of it moving it up and own. it could release the lock from its seized state. they had this problem on their tester GTR and this worked for them.

if that doesnt work you're out of luck. you need to replace the lock.
and that lock is wat's coming to me.

(btw, my car has not had this problem, just me being proactive).

Is it fairly inexpensive and easy to access? Can you fix this in the parking lot outside of work if it ever seizes? Wouldn't be a bad part to keep in your glove compartment.

OR, just fix it with the updated unit as soon as you get it lol

pedZ · 12-07-2011, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

the steering lock device, if it fails to unlock, will prevent you from starting your car. the BCM gets an error message and your intelligent key light comes on your cluster. there's been many cases of this happening randomly to 2009 owners.

root cause is unknown, other then the lock appears to seize. but if this happens to someone, first try unplugging your battery. leave it off for a few min. low battery charge might be the first contributer to the problem. even try charging your battery for a few min if available.

if that doesnt work, do the edmunds trick of unlocking steering column and just bang the hell out of it moving it up and own. it could release the lock from its seized state. they had this problem on their tester GTR and this worked for them.

if that doesnt work you're out of luck. you need to replace the lock.
and that lock is wat's coming to me.

(btw, my car has not had this problem, just me being proactive).

Thanks for explaining Kenchan.

kenchan · 12-07-2011, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfearl1

Is it fairly inexpensive and easy to access? Can you fix this in the parking lot outside of work if it ever seizes? Wouldn't be a bad part to keep in your glove compartment.

OR, just fix it with the updated unit as soon as you get it lol

the unit cost about $500. it would be a pretty clumsy repair to do in the field as you will need to remove the bottom cover under the steering column, most-likely remove the bottom bracket, remove 2 security bolts... but doable i thinks. since i know now that mine has the affected 'bad' revision lock im going to just replace it in my garage.

im going to be using different screws on mine though as i dont want to use the security bolts (need 2 sold separately) where the hex breaks off after it's torqued. be too much of a hassle to redo in the field if the new one fails.

Im going to keep a little kit in my Z with the 'old' lock as backup and some tools to use to do the work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedZ

Thanks for explaining Kenchan.

np!

Alchemy · 12-07-2011, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

the unit cost about $500. it would be a pretty clumsy repair to do in the field as you will need to remove the bottom cover under the steering column, most-likely remove the bottom bracket, remove 2 security bolts... but doable i thinks. since i know now that mine has the affected 'bad' revision lock im going to just replace it in my garage.

im going to be using different screws on mine though as i dont want to use the security bolts (need 2 sold separately) where the hex breaks off after it's torqued. be too much of a hassle to redo in the field if the new one fails.

Im going to keep a little kit in my Z with the 'old' lock as backup and some tools to use to do the work.

np!

Wait, you spent 500 bucks to be "proactive"?? Damn.

sfearl1 · 12-07-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

since i know now that mine has the affected 'bad' revision lock im going to just replace it in my garage.

build date 7/2010... bad lock?

kenchan · 12-07-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

Wait, you spent 500 bucks to be "proactive"?? Damn.

yep. a small price to pay for piece of mind for me atleast. think about it. tow will cost 100-120 depending on where it dies, 500+ ings splitter gets scuffed when she is pulled up onto the flatbed, my wheels could get scuffed from the straps on the flat bed, down time of minimum 2-3 days (current turnaround is about 2wks for most folks), i would need to pickup the car afterhours which is a huge inconvenience for my wife and me, dirtied car, possible scuffs on panels.

and probably more surprises too... if under warranty that's great, but if not, 850+ bill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfearl1

build date 7/2010... bad lock?

not 100% but from my guess you are fine. build date Sep2009 and earlier are probably going to be recalled if nissan goes forward with it.

Alchemy · 12-07-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yep. a small price to pay for piece of mind for me atleast. think about it. tow will cost 100-120 depending on where it dies, 500+ ings splitter gets scuffed when she is pulled up onto the flatbed, my wheels could get scuffed from the straps on the flat bed, down time of minimum 2-3 days (current turnaround is about 2wks for most folks), i would need to pickup the car afterhours which is a huge inconvenience for my wife and me, dirtied car, possible scuffs on panels.

and probably more surprises too.

I didnt think that deep into it. Damn I hope my 09never has this prob.

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