What did you do with your Z today

Alchemy · 05-27-2011, 05:21 PM

Congrats Fatal, looks great!

Fire · 05-27-2011, 05:36 PM

Kewl Dem. Wish I had FI. I traveled about the same amount last weekend and got 24.1 MPG.

nynhex · 05-27-2011, 06:54 PM

Fatal, those look sick!! Definite improvement.

nynhex · 05-27-2011, 06:55 PM

Just got my GTR switch and TI shift knob in the mail from TheNismoShop. Probably will put off putting them in till tomorrow when I do my exhaust and HPS tubes at work.

kenchan · 05-27-2011, 07:58 PM

Fatal- looks exciting.

ZForce · 05-27-2011, 11:40 PM

Hey kenchan, first off the ings look great!

Well I took the car to another alignment shop and got the toe dialed into zero on all four corners. The camber is not wild like before meaning the dealership's rachk was ouit of calibration. Took it on a run this last Sat thru the canyon and.....maybe I am not used to zero toe on all fours but it was squirming a bit in the rear and the fronts felt wierd hitting bumps in the curves. You had some concerns running zero in the rears. Should I try running some toe in on the rears? I am not the best describing what is what without any proper track driving instructions and schooling so I apologize up front if I am not sure what I am supposed to be looking for. I only had about 200 miles on these new RE-11's. Could it be the tires have not scrubbed in yet?

Here are my current specs.

New alignment as of 5/20/11

Fr Left -1.6
Fr Right -1.5
Toe Left 0.00
Toe Right 0.00
Total Toe 0.00
Steer Ahead xx.xx

Rr Left -1.3
Rr Right -1.2
Toe Left 0.00
Toe Right 0.00
Total Toe 0.00
Thrust Angle 0.00

Red__Zed · 05-28-2011, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce

Hey kenchan, first off the ings look great!

Well I took the car to another alignment shop and got the toe dialed into zero on all four corners. The camber is not wild like before meaning the dealership's rachk was ouit of calibration. Took it on a run this last Sat thru the canyon and.....maybe I am not used to zero toe on all fours but it was squirming a bit in the rear and the fronts felt wierd hitting bumps in the curves. You had some concerns running zero in the rears. Should I try running some toe in on the rears? I am not the best describing what is what without any proper track driving instructions and schooling so I apologize up front if I am not sure what I am supposed to be looking for. I only had about 200 miles on these new RE-11's. Could it be the tires have not scrubbed in yet?

Here are my current specs.

New alignment as of 5/20/11

Fr Left -1.6
Fr Right -1.5
Toe Left 0.00
Toe Right 0.00
Total Toe 0.00
Steer Ahead xx.xx

Rr Left -1.3
Rr Right -1.2
Toe Left 0.00
Toe Right 0.00
Total Toe 0.00
Thrust Angle 0.00

Why are you running no toe in the rear?

370zproject · 05-27-2011, 11:45 PM

washed mine

Waiz · 05-28-2011, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zproject

washed mine

Me too

kenchan · 05-28-2011, 06:39 AM

Zforce- thanks on the Ings.

Yah, the car actually toes out as the suspension travels in its programmed path. The toe-in setting offsets this so that u don't toe-out as much. Toe -out is like youre funneling in all bumps and road conditions for your car to digest while toe-in is like youre deflecting them to decide wat u want to digest and not overwelm stability.

Squirming comes from tires. New tires have more tread so that much rubber the car needs to twist in order to change the tire's direction. This is one reason why race cars in dry use slicks. Max contact patch and no tread to squirm.

ZForce · 05-28-2011, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

Zforce- thanks on the Ings.

Yah, the car actually toes out as the suspension travels in its programmed path. The toe-in setting offsets this so that u don't toe-out as much. Toe -out is like youre funneling in all bumps and road conditions for your car to digest while toe-in is like youre deflecting them to decide wat u want to digest and not overwelm stability.

Squirming comes from tires. New tires have more tread so that much rubber the car needs to twist in order to change the tire's direction. This is one reason why race cars in dry use slicks. Max contact patch and no tread to squirm.

Hey thanks for the additional 101 in alignment and toe. What would be a good setting for toe for the rears? I know it's a loaded question, because tire wear versus performance. A toe setting to start out with to test, which I can always change weekely (with my life time free alignments).

kenchan · 05-28-2011, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce

Hey thanks for the additional 101 in alignment and toe. What would be a good setting for toe for the rears? I know it's a loaded question, because tire wear versus performance. A toe setting to start out with to test, which I can always change weekely (with my life time free alignments).

I would do 0.05 to 0.10 degrees per side if I had wear in mind. Id go a bit more aggressive for my car tho.. 0.10 to 0.15 per side. I think the factory setting is pretty aggressive. At 4000 miles my factory tires were about half done.

nynhex · 05-28-2011, 05:37 PM

Installed my Nismo TI shift knob today. However, the stock knob was a casualty of war.

happytheman · 05-28-2011, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynhex

Installed my Nismo TI shift knob today. However, the stock knob was a casualty of war.

Looks great Nyhex, but I am curious about your removal methodology that made the stock knob collateral damage?

Red__Zed · 05-28-2011, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce

Hey thanks for the additional 101 in alignment and toe. What would be a good setting for toe for the rears? I know it's a loaded question, because tire wear versus performance. A toe setting to start out with to test, which I can always change weekely (with my life time free alignments).

I would stick with factory toe specs for the rear if you can.

05-27-2011, 05:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Alchemy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Age: 45 Posts: 4,855 Drives: to acquire tickets Rep Power: 3525	Congrats Fatal, looks great! __________________ Ryan 314WHP \| 260LB-FT \| STILLEN \| KONI \| SWIFT \| STOPTECH \| Z1 \| PROJECT MU \| CNT \| UPREV \| FORGESTAR \| BRIDGESTONE \| PWJDM \| ENEOS \| MOTUL

05-27-2011, 05:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Fire A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: WNY Posts: 4,117 Drives: 12 ZL1 6mt black Rep Power: 43	Kewl Dem. Wish I had FI. I traveled about the same amount last weekend and got 24.1 MPG. __________________ 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 6MT coupe Back N' Black. 680hp

05-27-2011, 11:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
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ZForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,359 Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport Rep Power: 21	Hey kenchan, first off the ings look great! Well I took the car to another alignment shop and got the toe dialed into zero on all four corners. The camber is not wild like before meaning the dealership's rachk was ouit of calibration. Took it on a run this last Sat thru the canyon and.....maybe I am not used to zero toe on all fours but it was squirming a bit in the rear and the fronts felt wierd hitting bumps in the curves. You had some concerns running zero in the rears. Should I try running some toe in on the rears? I am not the best describing what is what without any proper track driving instructions and schooling so I apologize up front if I am not sure what I am supposed to be looking for. I only had about 200 miles on these new RE-11's. Could it be the tires have not scrubbed in yet? Here are my current specs. New alignment as of 5/20/11 Fr Left -1.6 Fr Right -1.5 Toe Left 0.00 Toe Right 0.00 Total Toe 0.00 Steer Ahead xx.xx Rr Left -1.3 Rr Right -1.2 Toe Left 0.00 Toe Right 0.00 Total Toe 0.00 Thrust Angle 0.00

05-28-2011, 06:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Zforce- thanks on the Ings. Yah, the car actually toes out as the suspension travels in its programmed path. The toe-in setting offsets this so that u don't toe-out as much. Toe -out is like youre funneling in all bumps and road conditions for your car to digest while toe-in is like youre deflecting them to decide wat u want to digest and not overwelm stability. Squirming comes from tires. New tires have more tread so that much rubber the car needs to twist in order to change the tire's direction. This is one reason why race cars in dry use slicks. Max contact patch and no tread to squirm.

05-28-2011, 05:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
nynhex Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 247 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 372	Installed my Nismo TI shift knob today. However, the stock knob was a casualty of war.