http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2..._Removed_2.jpg

Interesting... Looks like we might not have to give up on the #0 design after all, at least for the front. We might be able cover the two nubs with the ring. What about covering the square with a small, low, color matched piece thats connected to the diagonal section of the z

2!!

Something similar to this
http://www.the370z.com/members/agsta...3-img-5425.jpg

notice the red part sits completely below the Z, and rests inside the rectangular void on the bumper. Might look shitty up close but from a few feet back I bet it'd look good as long as its a tight fit and painted well.
http://www.the370z.com/members/agsta...4-img-5428.jpg

By #0 do you mean this one?
http://www.the370z.com/members/scruf...0z-emblems.jpg

If I have something that connects to the diagonal section of the letter Z what shape should I make? Because I don't think a small rectangle going side ways will look good....cuz we're now back to the hamburger style or have people mix up with it looking like the old school Z logo....

Ahh, nevermind...i see the pics now
hmm...i dunno....i personally wouldn't go with that design but I'll let others vote.


I noticed you took a pic with the camera, wouldn't a print screen be faster?

how do I do that?

So, I'm stuck on trying to figure out the alignment tabs that protrudes out of the bumper, I need dimensions.....does that mean I need to take mine off?

I really don't want to do that....anyone already have their emblems off already and don't mind doing that for us? I can always design the emblem in a way where I can just over estimate the holes location or even counter sink bore a step circular shape on the rear side of the emblem....but I really prefer to be able to re-use those existing tabs for alignment as they're already there.

Just press "Print Screen" button on your keyboard and the Ctrl+V to paste it in Window's Paint program. And you can then save it as .JPG after moving and cropping. Good luck! :)

Yeah your probably right, forget it.

I'd be interested to know just how much of the square the Z would leave visible in the #0 design, if its only a small bit it might be easy/cheap to have a body shop take care of it. Even if they do a half assed job it will be barley visible.

Could we bump up the size of the Z?

I wouldn't worry about it too much, we can just do it on the fly at my shop when were ready to get down on this. we'll make a prototype of the badges, and if they are acceptable only then will we need to remove any badges to dial in the exact fit.Then we'll make our copies and send them out for paint/plating/powder coat. Might have to roll badge-less for a week while they're out but it'll be worth it.

cool....thanks....did you want me to bump up the size of the "Z" logo for design #2? How much bigger? the current dimensions are 40mm x 80mm i believe.

I guess we could always try it out....i have a black Z...it's probably the best one to use to hide the square...any other color will be really obvious and harder to match paint to since the paint will be on metal instead of plastics (like the bumper). I've noticed a couple of my friends who have Z's from factory and their body paint don't really match from body to bumper because of the material it's painted on. Especially Pearl White....it's really noticeable....I think people might mind that....

I'd like you to bump up the Z on #0. I am putting this badge on the front of my car come hell or high water! I want to try and cover as much of the square hole as possible and I will have a body shop do a fill if necessary. Basically I want the diagonal part of the Z to be as wide as possible, but to maintain the same proportions it has now. and not look overly large, or break through the outer diameter of the badge. Maybe scale up by a factor of 1.2 and see how it looks, I trust your judgment.

Im thinking about doing 0 on the front and 2 on the back.

Which badges are you interested in Kevin?

Haha, I'm not sure....I've been so caught up drawing them I didn't really think much about it....probably do #2 for both front and Rear....by the way I still need to get you the CAD files for the Rear as the sizes are different. Let me send you the files once I verify the rear badge dimensions. As for increasing the size of Z logo, here are the changes....what do you think looks best?

http://www.the370z.com/members/scruf...ent-z-size.jpg

Damn, those all look great. That style is definitely my favorite.

I like 2B. I think I'd like to keep the z fully contained within the "crest" of the ring. also If I'm going to make a fully cut out version like #0 there needs to be a fair amount of material to connect the z to the ring

hmmm... the more I look at 2C the more I like it. I'll have to see it in SW

actually scratch that, 2C might not translate well on the machine due to the nose radius of the tool (.031 inches) we'll have to discuss this as it will affect the look of all the badges

So I decided to put some part number to make it easier to reference it by.
Example:
ZF-2A-O

Z - Emblem Code
F - Front
2 - Design Number
A - Size of the Z logo (Will be removed once we determine which size is best)
O - Open

Here are the different Z logo size:
http://www.the370z.com/members/scruf...ent-z-size.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/scruf...-2-overall.jpg

NOTE: Remember the Open version will have a rectangular filler block for the bumper, unless you fill the bumper with some kind of resin or what not. Then it'll be as shown.

Great Idea I was thinking the same thing:tup:

Im no longer considering the filler block. It's a trip to the body shop for me.

Nice! I personally would do that myself too because I love the design leaving the inside open, but I'm thinking of eventually modding both of my Front and Rear bumper to a Nismo one. So I wanna untouch the original bumper as much as I can.

But if you're going to that extra mile to the body shop already, why don't i just make you a Z emblem doesn't have the wing (hamburger part) You should just fill the wing part. Hell, I can even make you a circular one just like the hub center cap one! Can you imagine how nice that'd be?

Could you please send me ZF-2B-O, ZF-2A and ZR-2A in .sldprt format. I'm going to start CAMing them tomorrow.

I plan on taking some thickness off the backside of ZF-2B-O. its like .180 inches in the blacked out area of ZF-2A right? If you don't mind changing your drawing yet again maybe you could bring this in a bit(ZF-2B-O only). I think the Z looks a little too meaty. If not don't worry I can do it.

Also I mentioned something about how I liked the minimal side tabs on design #3. have you given any thought to applying a similar idea to #2?

Im afraid to let them fill and paint the visible parts of the bumper. I like how ZF-2B-O covers most of the work that the body shop will have to do.

I dont know let me think about it... wingless would look awesome though....:ughdance:

Like this right? I don't know if you like the idea of the Z floating rather than having it kissing backing of the bumper. Don't you worry it'll break considering the point of contact to the rim isn't much. And if I just reduce the height of the "Z" logo leaving the back the same as before, the logo will resides inside the rim, which won't be a good idea either because it'll cover the edges of the Z. (And I can't make the Z logo smaller either because it needs to overlap the rim so it can be one piece.)

http://www.the370z.com/members/scruf...n-modified.jpg

I thought the moment you open the parasolid from solidworks it automatically create the part file for you which you could modify. Do you need all the features in the model part for CAMWorks to work?

I can look into that, but you would prefer to have the same Rim thickness right?

No, I don't want the floating Z. I was talking about doing an extruded cut from the back in towards the front about (.05-.08 in ), reducing the over all thickness of the badge. But now that I think about it this will decrease the outer diameter and it will be too small for the indentation on the bumper.

Yes, I need the feature tree to use CAMworks. I've tried doing it with a parasolid model but the software cant seem to handle it. It's much easier if I can isolate individual features.

and yes, the same rim thickness please.

Alrite, I'll send the files over in a second, I just thought the file size is a little bit for e-mailing because it contains the features.

I modified all the Z emblems, apparently the diagonal chamfer that cuts across the Z logo is 28° not 27°.

But to your request....here's a lower tab...lemme know what you think.
http://www.the370z.com/members/scruf...comparison.jpg

Here's a better view with the contour lines turned on:
http://www.the370z.com/members/scruf...tour-lines.jpg

If the files are too large don't send them yet. Lets get every thing the way we want it first.

Could you go in between those two examples I'd like to see the crest of the rim all the way around and have the tabs just below it, but not as far as the ones in the example. about half way between the two you've shown please.

You're incredible! what type of tools are you using to take your measurements anyway?

So far i'm just using 2 pairs of calipers...but I'm gonna buy myself some fillet gauges and have them shipped to my work. I need more tools, most of it is just by my own gauging....which I don't like. There are places that provide services which scans a 3D model of pretty much anything, the down side is it's ridiculously expensive, plus you don't have any features, you just get an imported model.

I just sent the models over, I didn't quite understand you meant with your previous request. Please advice.

http://www.the370z.com/members/agsta...e16046-red.jpg
could you make the wings close to where the red dots are please? have them start at the outside of the dots and go down from there

how's this for a change?
http://www.the370z.com/members/scruf...m-design-4.jpg

I love it that looks great. What do you think? I gotta go dude I'll catch up with you tomorrow. Good work tonight.

night man! Don't work too hard now :tiphat:

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Somebody's gotta dig this right? Especially trackers....

http://www.the370z.com/members/scruf...t-assembly.jpg
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Looks great! I hope you make the one with the filler no matter what. Screw the body shop and trying to have a filler square, yada yada yada! One piece is best! #2 all the way! :tup:

You know I gotta say, coming from 1300 posts on clublexus and 2+ years on the forum. I have never seen anything as cool as this sense of community, and the willingness to not only help other people out but to even take your own time to design and make something like this. I gotta say I'm giving rep to scruffy and Ag. Keep it up guys.

That is very cool :tup:

Z logo and all. Hawt.

That's is SICK! It's crazy watching you guys do all of this stuff. You should be working for Nissan. Manufacturers would be smart to spend more time on this forum to get the pulse of the customers, and steal some talent from this forum. You definitely have my money once you make these.