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soCo 04-04-2010 11:54 PM

When will info about the 2011 come out?
 
Colors, changes, etc.

Some companies are starting to release their changes (Ford, Subaru). When does Nissan start hyping up the next years model.

I know, it's only a quarter of the way through 2010 but I'm just curious.

370zlove3 04-05-2010 01:33 AM

That is funny. I was ABOUT to make this thread as well.

2011 Ford Mustang GT vs 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS vs 2010 Dodge Challenger SRT8 Comparison - Motor Trend

After reading this, I really hope Nissan brings its A-game to the table. The Ford Mustang basically has beaten the Camaro and the Challenger at their own game by successfully winning the acceleration, lateral acceleration (0.97 G I think), braking, etc...

Nissan, make the 2011 370Z even better please!

Vegitto-kun 04-05-2010 04:54 AM

please nissan don't make it much better. else I will cry

gumpy 04-05-2010 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 481442)
please nissan don't make it much better. else I will cry

rofl

i'd like to see nissan pull out DI... with 10% more power and 10% more fuel efficiency... it'd be like walking up to the mustang and flopping out a massive wang...

soCo 04-05-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 481458)
rofl

i'd like to see nissan pull out DI... with 10% more power and 10% more fuel efficiency... it'd be like walking up to the mustang and flopping out a massive wang...

It would be awesome but it's very doubtful. If all they do is add an orange color to the available lineup and that's it - I'd be a very happy man.

Red370 04-05-2010 08:38 AM

i'm curious if they'll have engine upgrades every few years like the 350 did. Willing to bet they probably wont just so they wont have something to compete with the Nismo sales.

NomadicMarine 04-05-2010 08:41 AM

It would be nice if they bumped up the HP/TQ to the Nismo ratings for 2011. FTW!

Red370 04-05-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NomadicMarine (Post 481533)
It would be nice if they bumped up the HP/TQ to the Nismo ratings for 2011. FTW!

you can do that with a CBE.

theDreamer 04-05-2010 08:45 AM

I am sure Nissan will throw out more HP and torque for the 2011, will the Nismo make the 2011 cut though? Also, for Nissan it is not 100% about track times it seems, they will use little things to sell it as a new model sort of like 2010.

Zsteve 04-05-2010 09:17 AM

and as stated before the DI makes for a heavily deposited engine. I think Modshack had thrown a pic up before of the inside of the engine for a DI and it was nasty. So DI will give you gains at first but after awhile the build up will take them back.

WICKED_GRIN 04-05-2010 09:44 AM

^^ Here we go again……2 seat sports car vs. 4 seat muscle car!

370Zsteve 04-05-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zlove3 (Post 481350)
That is funny. I was ABOUT to make this thread as well.

2011 Ford Mustang GT vs 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS vs 2010 Dodge Challenger SRT8 Comparison - Motor Trend

After reading this, I really hope Nissan brings its A-game to the table. The Ford Mustang basically has beaten the Camaro and the Challenger at their own game by successfully winning the acceleration, lateral acceleration (0.97 G I think), braking, etc...

Nissan, make the 2011 370Z even better please!

I never listen to Motor Trend, I think they suck, but if it's true the Mustang beat, it is quite a statement from a live rear axle.

370Zsteve 04-05-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 481539)
I am sure Nissan will throw out more HP and torque for the 2011, will the Nismo make the 2011 cut though? Also, for Nissan it is not 100% about track times it seems, they will use little things to sell it as a new model sort of like 2010.

After the Car & Driver debacle with the brake failure, I hope Nissan takes care of that public-relations disaster.

Speaking of C&D, the June issue will have an update of the Nismo track incident. Apparently they finally admit it was not brake "failure". Seems the pads were worn down to the plates and they boiled the brake fluid. Question remains, were the pads worn when they received the car? If so, this highly publicized incident was very damaging to the brand and Nissan should sue their asses if this was the case. :stirthepot:

Jeffblue 04-05-2010 10:16 AM

I dont care for that 2 seat vs 4 seat argument. I just went to the NY auto show yesterday. sat in the gt500, and the camaro, and a bunch of other 4 seat sports cars, and those seats are USELESS. no one would ever want to sit in them. I'd rather have 2 seats and more storage space or shorter wheelbase/car than 2 feet of useless backseat.

LONDON2012 04-05-2010 10:25 AM

Since nobody here has answered your actual question, I'll tell you what I know. With the 350z, it was my understanding that the new ones came out every year in January. So an 07 came out in January of 2007. I'm not 100% positive, but this is what my dealer told me when I was buying my 350z. Nissan put out the 2009 370z in January. However the roadster came out in Septemberish, if I remeber correctly, as a 2010 model. I think we will know more after 2010 on how nissan will cycle through. I'm curious to see if they bring out the 2011 roadster in September or if they wait until January to bring everything out. Either way, I wouldn't expect to hear about the next model year until late this year.

Mize 04-05-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 481606)
Speaking of C&D, the June issue will have an update of the Nismo track incident. Apparently they finally admit it was not brake "failure". Seems the pads were worn down to the plates and they boiled the brake fluid. Question remains, were the pads worn when they received the car? If so, this highly publicized incident was very damaging to the brand and Nissan should sue their asses if this was the case. :stirthepot:

Seriously? What's your source?

If this is true C&D has some serious questions to answer:

1. Why would they or their driver get behind the wheel WITHOUT checking the pads first???

2. Why didn't they check them right after the crash?

You would think they would have pulled off the fracking wheels and checked the pads immediately after the crash and, if they found worn pads, they should have STFU...?

kenchan 04-05-2010 11:14 AM

so they dont know much about safety before tracking a car.... great. not that i know much about tracking but the first thing i would check condition are BRAKES and TIRES. hope the driver is okay.

Mize 04-05-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 481702)
so they dont know much about safety before tracking a car.... great. not that i know much about tracking but the first thing i would check condition are BRAKES and TIRES. hope the driver is okay.

This was quite some time ago and nobody was hurt. From the looks of it the Nismo took the wall on the passenger side hard. C&D said the brakes failed completely without warning on the second lap in a turn where you must drop from 130 to 40 mph quickly. If it turns out to be worn pads they have some serious backpedalling to do.

370Zsteve 04-05-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mize (Post 481641)
Seriously? What's your source?

May 2010 Car & Driver :tiphat: Page 113 C/D Fleet Files

370zlove3 04-05-2010 12:31 PM

For starters, Nissan could just install the new brake pads as a standard for 2011...

I wonder if the 2011 Nismo will actually have automatic transmission now that most sports automakers (Ferrari and Lambo) are ditching manuals...

Lug 04-05-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 481535)
you can do that with a CBE.

Not enough, IMHO. They need to bump up to probably around at least 370 hp to stay competative in acceleration. It wins hands down in all other catagories already so to me, the obvious choice is a power bump. Seems as if the block is already very robust so this shouldn't be outragously expensive to do.

Modshack 04-05-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 481702)
so they dont know much about safety before tracking a car.... great.

Nor does Nissan for supplying a mechanically questionable car to a Magazine for testing! Yikes! Bet the guy in charge of the press fleet's head rolled on that one..

370zlove3 04-05-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 481975)
Not enough, IMHO. They need to bump up to probably around at least 370 hp to stay competative in acceleration. It wins hands down in all other catagories already so to me, the obvious choice is a power bump. Seems as if the block is already very robust so this shouldn't be outragously expensive to do.

I agree with the power bump. At least 370 would be nice and it would be a nice play on its name as well.

Somehow I don't see the car's weight being reduced anytime soon. But if they were to shortened the height of the 370Z and stiffen the suspension as well as the horsepower bump, then all of these factors will be sufficient enough to at least compete or beat the American pony cars.

Although I know Nissan will never do this, I would hope for the 370Z's width to be increased a little. I love wide, short, and stocky stance but a man can dream right? :(

Lug 04-05-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zlove3 (Post 481982)
I agree with the power bump. At least 370 would be nice and it would be a nice play on its name as well.

Somehow I don't see the car's weight being reduced anytime soon. But if they were to shortened the height of the 370Z and stiffen the suspension as well as the horsepower bump, then all of these factors will be sufficient enough to at least compete or beat the American pony cars.

Although I know Nissan will never do this, I would hope for the 370Z's width to be increased a little. I love wide, short, and stocky stance but a man can dream right? :(

stiffen the suspention to compete? The Z already easily outperforms the others in handling. In this price range not much can approach the Z on handling, you have to move up the food chain quite a bit to do that.

370zlove3 04-05-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 481985)
stiffen the suspention to compete? The Z already easily outperforms the others in handling. In this price range not much can approach the Z on handling, you have to move up the food chain quite a bit to do that.

I'm talking about overall hence why I put the horsepower bump in there as well. :driving:

blinkme323 04-05-2010 02:21 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if the Nismo is dropped temporarily and the 2011 regular models receive the 350hp.

Vegitto-kun 04-05-2010 02:45 PM

and give the 2009 owners a optional tune up to 350.

that would be nice

theDreamer 04-05-2010 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 482048)
and give the 2009 owners a optional tune up to 350.

that would be nice

:confused:
You know if they add HP to the car it will be probably through opening the exhaust up mostly. You are better off buying an aftermarket exhaust and tune and getting more than anything Nissan would do.

kevin1985912 04-05-2010 03:04 PM

maybe they will come with a factory oil cooler. I will cry if that happens.

semtex 04-05-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin1985912 (Post 482099)
maybe they will come with a factory oil cooler. I will cry if that happens.

Doubtful. Unless the car is a completely new design (and it's too soon for that), the addition of an oil cooler from the factory will be seen as a tacit admission that one is needed, which will have ramifications for prior-year models. And Nissan isn't about to admit that the 09 and 10 models ought to have come from the factory with oil coolers installed.

370zFORme!! 04-05-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 482107)
Doubtful. Unless the car is a completely new design (and it's too soon for that), the addition of an oil cooler from the factory will be seen as a tacit admission that one is needed, which will have ramifications for prior-year models. And Nissan isn't about to admit that the 09 and 10 models ought to have come from the factory with oil coolers installed.

Awesome logic and even better explanation. I've been thinking that for awhile, just never could explain it that well. :tup:

dad 04-05-2010 05:01 PM

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After the Car & Driver debacle with the brake failure, I hope Nissan takes care of that public-relations disaster.

Speaking of C&D, the June issue will have an update of the Nismo track incident. Apparently they finally admit it was not brake "failure". Seems the pads were worn down to the plates and they boiled the brake fluid. Question remains, were the pads worn when they received the car? If so, this highly publicized incident was very damaging to the brand and Nissan should sue their asses if this was the case. :stirthepot:

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 481737)
May 2010 Car & Driver :tiphat: Page 113 C/D Fleet Files

Did you quote the wrong magazine, or page? I see nothing here about an update or admitting anything.

semtex 04-05-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 482329)
Did you quote the wrong magazine, or page? I see nothing here about an update or admitting anything.

It's actually on page 19, in response to a reader's letter in the Backfires section.

semtex 04-05-2010 05:09 PM

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dad 04-05-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 482334)
It's actually on page 19, in response to a reader's letter in the Backfires section.

Thank you for clearing that!:tiphat:Rep+

Curious-What brake fluid is better?

daleks 04-05-2010 07:26 PM

Someone needs to tell C&D what the word 'confluence' means. How can something be the confluence of a single action? You have to have two things flow together for it to become a confluence. Maybe they meant to say it was a confluence of worn brake pads and... loafer wearing journalist? Khaki wearing journalist?

Mize 04-05-2010 08:17 PM

Nah, it was a confluence of worn pads and lazy, non-safety conscious testing.

semtex 04-06-2010 09:01 AM

I think what they meant was that the crash was a result of the confluence of the brake pad wear and the fluid boiling. Worn pads led to fluid boiling which in turn led to smacking the wall.

ChrisSlicks 04-06-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 482343)
Curious-What brake fluid is better?

For street drivers that work the car hard I would recommend ATE Super Blue/Gold as it can handle a moderate amount of moisture that accumulates in the system over the course of a year. Good for Auto-x and occasional HPDE.

For track junkies Motul RBF 600.

For race cars Motul RBF 660 or Endless RF-650.

elmz 04-06-2010 12:33 PM

I also hope Nissan can fire back with more HP and TQ soon. The 2011 Mustang sounds really good on paper. I can't wait to check out a full review, but it sounds like it has surpassed the 370Z, we'll have to wait and see.


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