370Z review by a BMW snob

Chico370Z · 03-24-2010, 09:44 AM

^yeah that's a pretty interesting read over there...that's a forum I hope to never join

dudafunk · 03-24-2010, 02:11 PM

Come and talk when its a 5 or 7 series BMW. A 3 series BMW is like Carnegie Mellon University first building a reputation from its Master's in Electrical and Computer Engineering course, which is hard to get into, and then giving bulk admits in their newer Master's in the INI program which is a spin off, a marketing stunt. A 3 series is also marketing and reaching out to the average masses after building a brand name from something upscale like the 7 series. Its all marketing. I never bother looking beyond when people compare the cheapest of something great overall (the general BMW brand) vs. the greatest of something cheap overall (the general Nissan brand).

elmz · 03-24-2010, 02:37 PM

Forum Waaaar! Yeaaaah!!! JK. I like both cars, but the OP was obviously bias, he did not go in with the intent of reviewing the Z with an open mind. He obviously loves BMW's and whatever 3 series he has. To each his own.

Viera · 03-24-2010, 02:44 PM

BIMMER heads. Whatya expect?

djward · 03-24-2010, 02:54 PM

I've owned a 2007 335 and 2008 M3. All great cars. The rush of the 335 off the line. The rush of the M3 climbing to redline. I've owned many Nissans in the past and loved them all. Do I have a preference? No. Just depends on what I feel like having at that time. The M3 was a pain to drive in this LA traffic along with horrible gas mileage. I did get another manual but the Nismo doesn't tire me in traffic. Can't hate on either brand. Both have spent many years creating the cars we love to drive. Some people need to justify their purchases so they target other popular brands. Just need to brush them off and know that the car you have makes you happy.

Brendan@Bwalk · 03-24-2010, 03:24 PM

I drive a Bimmer, and I hate most Bimmer drivers. Nothing says I'm fresh out of college with a $60k a year job like a leased 3 series, and the terrible sense of entitlement that comes along with it. Nothing like being bred by Motor Trend, Car & Driver, and Road & Track to think they are god while spitting off all the remarks like "laser accurate steering, balanced handling, and high quality interiors."

Modern BMW's are GARBAGE. They've lost many aspects that used to make the car special. Now they are as uninvolving to drive as a Toyota, have interiors that are outclassed by almost everyone, and relentless electronic nannies. Snap the throttle closed to try and kill the relentless understeer mid corner? Nope, the electronic throttle knows that might get the back end loose, so it'll slowly close the throttle (well, actually change the intake lift). Enjoy your heaps of understeer.

Steering feel? Drive a well sorted E36. Balance? Drive an E34. Sound? Drive an E34 M5. Comfort? Drive an E38. Want the best of everything? Drive an E39. Euro snobbery is so passe, and it scream's I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.

*Disclaimer* I used to be a BMW nuthugger when I was a teenager, and then I grew up, and realized I was missing out on a whole world of wonderful cars. First car I didn't like because I was an idiot was the 350Z, and after I spent some time in it, realized what an idiot I had been. Sadly most BMW douches aren't that wise, and don't grow out of that phase.

Nick911sc · 03-24-2010, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brendan@Bwalk

I drive a Bimmer, and I hate most Bimmer drivers. Nothing says I'm fresh out of college with a $60k a year job like a leased 3 series, and the terrible sense of entitlement that comes along with it. Nothing like being bred by Motor Trend, Car & Driver, and Road & Track to think they are god while spitting off all the remarks like "laser accurate steering, balanced handling, and high quality interiors."

Modern BMW's are GARBAGE. They've lost many aspects that used to make the car special. Now they are as uninvolving to drive as a Toyota, have interiors that are outclassed by almost everyone, and relentless electronic nannies. Snap the throttle closed to try and kill the relentless understeer mid corner? Nope, the electronic throttle knows that might get the back end loose, so it'll slowly close the throttle (well, actually change the intake lift). Enjoy your heaps of understeer.

Steering feel? Drive a well sorted E36. Balance? Drive an E34. Sound? Drive an E34 M5. Comfort? Drive an E38. Want the best of everything? Drive an E39. Euro snobbery is so passe, and it scream's I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.

*Disclaimer* I used to be a BMW nuthugger when I was a teenager, and then I grew up, and realized I was missing out on a whole world of wonderful cars. First car I didn't like because I was an idiot was the 350Z, and after I spent some time in it, realized what an idiot I had been. Sadly most BMW douches aren't that wise, and don't grow out of that phase.

Excellent!

Modshack · 03-24-2010, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick911sc

Excellent!

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kenchan · 03-24-2010, 03:54 PM

LOL! nice post brendan.

Nick911sc · 03-24-2010, 04:18 PM

You know,

This guy just posted in the other thread, and I was agreeing with him until the last part of his comment.

"I agree 370z is a good car. Same goes for S2000 and other Honda/Acura cars like Integra and RSX. You get money's worth for Honda/Acura in every part which shines with quality unlike BMW where you are definitely paying an extra premium for the brand name itself.

Many Honda/Acura 'ricers' are at least very knowledgeable people who know about cars and they just can't afford the more expensive sports cars and they just want to make their cars as good as their liking with the money they have.

My main problem is with G37 and 350z/370z drivers. G37 seems to attract sleek hair-gel young sons of rich men who mousse their hair all the way back and who don't know squat about cars while Z seems to attract mainly high school wannabe kids. Both are excellent cars but I would be ashamed as hell being seen in them.

If I wanted a personal street race / fun-only car, I would opt for either latest Z4 with dual-clutch or Evo X MR. Evo and their drivers are very respectable. "

When I think of young BMW owners I think what he thinks about G owners. lol

Pharmacist · 03-24-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick911sc

You know,

This guy just posted in the other thread, and I was agreeing with him until the last part of his comment.

"I agree 370z is a good car. Same goes for S2000 and other Honda/Acura cars like Integra and RSX. You get money's worth for Honda/Acura in every part which shines with quality unlike BMW where you are definitely paying an extra premium for the brand name itself.

Many Honda/Acura 'ricers' are at least very knowledgeable people who know about cars and they just can't afford the more expensive sports cars and they just want to make their cars as good as their liking with the money they have.

My main problem is with G37 and 350z/370z drivers. G37 seems to attract sleek hair-gel young sons of rich men who mousse their hair all the way back and who don't know squat about cars while Z seems to attract mainly high school wannabe kids. Both are excellent cars but I would be ashamed as hell being seen in them.

If I wanted a personal street race / fun-only car, I would opt for either latest Z4 with dual-clutch or Evo X MR. Evo and their drivers are very respectable. "
When I think of young BMW owners I think what he thinks about G owners. lol

well, bmw attracts people who love wife swapping parties

shabarivas · 03-24-2010, 04:48 PM

Yes ... evo drivers are respectable... HAHAHHAHAHAHa

LaSeeno · 03-24-2010, 05:05 PM

LOL, I sold my B5 S4 TT for the chance to finally own a Z. I loved the 350's but couldn't afford them at the time (owned a 95 GSX) but when I walked into the showroom February 09 it was a done deal in 15 minutes.

Comparing a 30k Japaneses sports car to a 50K luxury sedan is being obtuse.

As for the comment of "18yo's attracting girls", how about all those Audi/BMW driver's who spend half their earning trying to do the same...

TamZ · 03-24-2010, 05:16 PM

QUOTE: G37 seems to attract sleek hair-gel young sons of rich men who mousse their hair all the way back and who don't know squat about cars while Z seems to attract mainly high school wannabe kids. Both are excellent cars but I would be ashamed as hell being seen in them.

I could most likely have afforded about any sports car I wanted (well, exotics aside...) and I specifically chose the Z because I am proud as hell to be seen in it for the car that it is.

The Z speaks loudly for itself even while simply standing still. I like that.

And the ricer comment made me laugh. I'm an almost 40 year old ricer chick?! ha..that is funny.

nuTinmuch · 03-24-2010, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TamZ

QUOTE: G37 seems to attract sleek hair-gel young sons of rich men who mousse their hair all the way back and who don't know squat about cars while Z seems to attract mainly high school wannabe kids. Both are excellent cars but I would be ashamed as hell being seen in them.

I could most likely have afforded about any sports car I wanted (well, exotics aside...) and I specifically chose the Z because I am proud as hell to be seen in it for the car that it is.

The Z speaks loudly for itself even while simply standing still. I like that.

And the ricer comment made me laugh. I'm an almost 40 year old ricer chick?! ha..that is funny.

Yeah, I don't get it. I'm not sure who the car screams ricer too at all outside of people like this. I've been told exactly the opposite, lol. On the other hand, go ask a random person what they think of BMW drivers...

03-24-2010, 09:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Chico370Z Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 233 Drives: 09 370Z Touring Rep Power: 16	^yeah that's a pretty interesting read over there...that's a forum I hope to never join __________________ 04 Nissan Sentra SpecV: Brembos, Nismo Intake/Exhaust/Short Shifter, Eibach Sportlines, ES MMI - SOLD / / / 09 Nissan 370Z Touring: Invidia Gemini Exhaust, ERZ HFC, GTM 25 Row Cooler, Z1 Tubes, and K&N Drop Ins

03-24-2010, 03:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Brendan@Bwalk Supporting Nissan Dealer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 56 Drives: Unreliable V8 Rep Power: 16	I drive a Bimmer, and I hate most Bimmer drivers. Nothing says I'm fresh out of college with a $60k a year job like a leased 3 series, and the terrible sense of entitlement that comes along with it. Nothing like being bred by Motor Trend, Car & Driver, and Road & Track to think they are god while spitting off all the remarks like "laser accurate steering, balanced handling, and high quality interiors." Modern BMW's are GARBAGE. They've lost many aspects that used to make the car special. Now they are as uninvolving to drive as a Toyota, have interiors that are outclassed by almost everyone, and relentless electronic nannies. Snap the throttle closed to try and kill the relentless understeer mid corner? Nope, the electronic throttle knows that might get the back end loose, so it'll slowly close the throttle (well, actually change the intake lift). Enjoy your heaps of understeer. Steering feel? Drive a well sorted E36. Balance? Drive an E34. Sound? Drive an E34 M5. Comfort? Drive an E38. Want the best of everything? Drive an E39. Euro snobbery is so passe, and it scream's I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about. Disclaimer I used to be a BMW nuthugger when I was a teenager, and then I grew up, and realized I was missing out on a whole world of wonderful cars. First car I didn't like because I was an idiot was the 350Z, and after I spent some time in it, realized what an idiot I had been. Sadly most BMW douches aren't that wise, and don't grow out of that phase. __________________ Brendan Dolan Internet Sales Boardwalk Nissan Check out my current 370Z inventory! Check out my Nissan Leaf Blog and help me pad the analytics with unique visitors...

03-24-2010, 05:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
LaSeeno Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mars Posts: 129 Drives: NA Rep Power: 17	LOL, I sold my B5 S4 TT for the chance to finally own a Z. I loved the 350's but couldn't afford them at the time (owned a 95 GSX) but when I walked into the showroom February 09 it was a done deal in 15 minutes. Comparing a 30k Japaneses sports car to a 50K luxury sedan is being obtuse. As for the comment of "18yo's attracting girls", how about all those Audi/BMW driver's who spend half their earning trying to do the same... Last edited by LaSeeno; 03-24-2010 at 05:43 PM.

03-24-2010, 05:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
TamZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 433 Drives: 2011 Mercedes GL 350 Rep Power: 16	QUOTE: G37 seems to attract sleek hair-gel young sons of rich men who mousse their hair all the way back and who don't know squat about cars while Z seems to attract mainly high school wannabe kids. Both are excellent cars but I would be ashamed as hell being seen in them. I could most likely have afforded about any sports car I wanted (well, exotics aside...) and I specifically chose the Z because I am proud as hell to be seen in it for the car that it is. The Z speaks loudly for itself even while simply standing still. I like that. And the ricer comment made me laugh. I'm an almost 40 year old ricer chick?! ha..that is funny. __________________ Tammy

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03-24-2010, 02:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
dudafunk Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 421 Drives: '09 370z Base Red AT Rep Power: 16	Come and talk when its a 5 or 7 series BMW. A 3 series BMW is like Carnegie Mellon University first building a reputation from its Master's in Electrical and Computer Engineering course, which is hard to get into, and then giving bulk admits in their newer Master's in the INI program which is a spin off, a marketing stunt. A 3 series is also marketing and reaching out to the average masses after building a brand name from something upscale like the 7 series. Its all marketing. I never bother looking beyond when people compare the cheapest of something great overall (the general BMW brand) vs. the greatest of something cheap overall (the general Nissan brand).

03-24-2010, 02:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 18	Forum Waaaar! Yeaaaah!!! JK. I like both cars, but the OP was obviously bias, he did not go in with the intent of reviewing the Z with an open mind. He obviously loves BMW's and whatever 3 series he has. To each his own.

03-24-2010, 02:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Viera Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 897 Drives: '09 M.Blue 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 265	BIMMER heads. Whatya expect?

03-24-2010, 02:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
djward Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: LA Posts: 48 Drives: 10 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 16	I've owned a 2007 335 and 2008 M3. All great cars. The rush of the 335 off the line. The rush of the M3 climbing to redline. I've owned many Nissans in the past and loved them all. Do I have a preference? No. Just depends on what I feel like having at that time. The M3 was a pain to drive in this LA traffic along with horrible gas mileage. I did get another manual but the Nismo doesn't tire me in traffic. Can't hate on either brand. Both have spent many years creating the cars we love to drive. Some people need to justify their purchases so they target other popular brands. Just need to brush them off and know that the car you have makes you happy.

03-24-2010, 03:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	LOL! nice post brendan.

03-24-2010, 04:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 21	You know, This guy just posted in the other thread, and I was agreeing with him until the last part of his comment. "I agree 370z is a good car. Same goes for S2000 and other Honda/Acura cars like Integra and RSX. You get money's worth for Honda/Acura in every part which shines with quality unlike BMW where you are definitely paying an extra premium for the brand name itself. Many Honda/Acura 'ricers' are at least very knowledgeable people who know about cars and they just can't afford the more expensive sports cars and they just want to make their cars as good as their liking with the money they have. My main problem is with G37 and 350z/370z drivers. G37 seems to attract sleek hair-gel young sons of rich men who mousse their hair all the way back and who don't know squat about cars while Z seems to attract mainly high school wannabe kids. Both are excellent cars but I would be ashamed as hell being seen in them. If I wanted a personal street race / fun-only car, I would opt for either latest Z4 with dual-clutch or Evo X MR. Evo and their drivers are very respectable. " When I think of young BMW owners I think what he thinks about G owners. lol

03-24-2010, 04:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 915	Yes ... evo drivers are respectable... HAHAHHAHAHAHa