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Soygen 03-14-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kdoske (Post 444306)
If the kid in the honda civic is reading this thread then, FK U Honda civic kid with your stupid vanilla ice leather ball cap.

Hey, F U! My grandma gave me that hat! It was also her Civic SI. :(

m4a1mustang 03-15-2010 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 445616)
Well until we get one on a dyno and see how much drivetrain loss they suffer from and what the curb weight is going to be, its all still subjective. However, with my mods and my tune, i'll try to get one at the strip ASAP, going out on a limb here, but I think i'll win, mostly because my bhp will be about the same and i'll be 300+ lbs lighter.

That's not really saying much, because you are comparing a stock 2011 to your modded Z.

FWIW, the 4.6Ls rated at 315 hp dyno between 270-280 whp (dynojet) and put down around 330 whp with intake, exhaust (CBE and HFCs) and a tune. Drivetrain loss should be similar, so expect around 355 whp stock out of a 2011.

But yeah, I don't know why anyone would buy a 2010 knowing that the 2011 was getting that much of a power increase.

>135I 03-15-2010 06:43 AM

Yea I pulled up next to a scion with neon kit at a red light and the first thing he did when I stopped was rev his engine. I was like oh god, I just looked away and went on with my business and he sped away, probably telling his friends later that he beat a 370z.

370Zapper 03-15-2010 07:34 AM

Just last weekend had a VW Rabbit and Azteck come at me. Why? is all I ask.

waaaasabi 03-15-2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zapper (Post 446442)
Just last weekend had a VW Rabbit and Azteck come at me. Why? is all I ask.

I would've blown them off the line but only with the intent of getting away from that ugly POS.

mick 03-15-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zapper (Post 446442)
Just last weekend had a VW Rabbit and Azteck come at me. Why? is all I ask.

I know it's silly but deep down, if you drove your car for while and nothing happened, i think you would be a little bit disappointed :)

it's kinda like the feeling a nice looking single woman would get when she showed up at a party and nobody made any move, even the ones who had no chance.

Zsteve 03-15-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 446415)
That's not really saying much, because you are comparing a stock 2011 to your modded Z.

FWIW, the 4.6Ls rated at 315 hp dyno between 270-280 whp (dynojet) and put down around 330 whp with intake, exhaust (CBE and HFCs) and a tune. Drivetrain loss should be similar, so expect around 355 whp stock out of a 2011.

But yeah, I don't know why anyone would buy a 2010 knowing that the 2011 was getting that much of a power increase.

I think since the stang has an extra 2 cyls on us we can include our mods and still have it a fair comparison. IMNO we either compare according to cyl or HP. Either way I know stang owners hate getting beat by 6 cyls, Ive had a few get that pissy look afterwards.

m4a1mustang 03-15-2010 09:55 AM

Nah, you can't add your mods to make it fair. That'd be like adding suspension mods to the Mustang to make a road course comparison to the Z fair.

Bottom line is they have the straight line advantage. Stock for stock we beat the 2010s, but 2011 will be a completely different story.

And most Mustang guys don't get upset about a 6 banger outgunning them. They are car guys too and understand the fundamentals of power and weight just like we do. And keep in mind that as far as V8s go, Mustangs have always been running the smaller engine compared to other V8 competition.

370Zsteve 03-15-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hi-Step'n370Z (Post 445687)
That's just great. First our Z's are Dude magnets, now we have to add Fart Can magnet to that too???? LOL.

lmao +1

370Zsteve 03-15-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed (Post 445924)
idk either way im 18 and i even think racing on the street is retarded i plan on having a job with the CIA so i cant screw around but even if i didnt plan on that its still stupid kids are so dumb these days its all about who's got a faster car. who cares i bought my car because i like it done deal

Damn I thought getting a job with the CIA meant you had to be able to drive like James Bond. Desk job? :stirthepot:

370Zsteve 03-15-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 446524)
And keep in mind that as far as V8s go, Mustangs have always been running the smaller engine compared to other V8 competition.

Always? No! How old are you, s0n?

The 427 FE engine was introduced in 1963 to handle the demands of NASCAR, NHRA, and AHRA, as well as street racing enthusiasts. The 427 block was cast from high nickle content iron with a thickened deck to handle the increased higher compression pressures. The design included mechanical tappets for higher revs, and was stress relieved using a slowed cooling process that minimized internal stresses. It used a cast iron crankshaft, and had grooved main bearing journals for improved lubrication. There were forged connecting rods borrowed from the now-discontinued high performance 390. The 427 was the only Ford big-block to use forged pistons.

The intake manifold and cylinder heads were designed and flow-tested to work together with either a high riser, a medium riser, or a low riser induction system. It was available with either a single 4 barrel carb or, for maximum output, a dual 4 barrel configuration with an aluminum manifold. Ford did not publicize the measured dyno Hp of these engines, but it was more than 500 hp for either engine. Camshafts were revised so many times on these engines that the entire alphabet of single characters was exhausted and double letters were used as the last two digits of the part number. On the tracks, the high-riser 427 was so successful that NASCAR eventually banned it. Ford rated the low riser 4 barrel 427 at 410hp at 4500rpm and 476lb-ft of torque at 3400rpm. The dual 4 barrel version was rated at 425hp at 6000rpm and 480lb-ft of torque at 3700rpm.

m4a1mustang 03-15-2010 10:03 AM

Old enough to be your son!

Haha, ok, not always, but almost always.

Matt 03-15-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 446540)
Always? No! How old are you, s0n?

The 427 FE engine was introduced in 1963

I stopped reading at 1963. I didn't even know they had cars back then! :stirthepot:

FuszNissan 03-15-2010 10:07 AM

427 - :drool:

Zsteve 03-15-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 446524)
Nah, you can't add your mods to make it fair. That'd be like adding suspension mods to the Mustang to make a road course comparison to the Z fair.

Bottom line is they have the straight line advantage. Stock for stock we beat the 2010s, but 2011 will be a completely different story.

And most Mustang guys don't get upset about a 6 banger outgunning them. They are car guys too and understand the fundamentals of power and weight just like we do. And keep in mind that as far as V8s go, Mustangs have always been running the smaller engine compared to other V8 competition.

Then a comparison between the 2011 stang and the Z isnt good either cuz they will not only have 2 cyls more than us but also more hp so either way wont be a good comparison. Now if both were the same liter, then. And its all just a cycle anyway as every fews yrs all companies come out with a new version with more power. Its how they keep us coming back for more, they know were hooked on power like a tweeker to drugs.

TurboPower 03-15-2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 446515)
Either way I know stang owners hate getting beat by 6 cyls, Ive had a few get that pissy look afterwards.

At least with the Z, they are getting beat by a sports car. You should look up the reactions of 'Stang owners on their forums when people bring up the SRT-4. They really hate it that a four cylinder Neon can whoop up on them. :stirthepot:

Red370 03-15-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboPower (Post 446634)
At least with the Z, they are getting beat by a sports car. You should look up the reactions of 'Stang owners on their forums when people bring up the SRT-4. They really hate it that a four cylinder Neon can whoop up on them. :stirthepot:

As much as I hate the lil bastards, they're deceptively quick, you cant really tell whats been done to the engine, I imagine they make power relatively cheap based on how many I see driven around here by some poor SOB's. We have privates driving them and I heard one saying something like hes making 400whp with a boost controller, exhaust and up pipe.

Modshack 03-15-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 443439)
I rev the piss out of the Z when they challenge me at stoplights. Then on green, I let them make complete foolz of themselves while I pull away normally. :tup:

Yup! Nothing :owned:'s a street racer like that!

Red370 03-15-2010 11:45 AM

I think I may try this today... should get a good LOL out of it.

Tyrell Tyson 03-15-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 444623)
I would have grabbed the little son of a bitch and rear naked choked his a$$, then when hes passed out, kick his little fart can off. I have a very short fuse and train in BJJ/Muay Thai, i'm always looking for someone to get smart ;)

I train with UFC fighters but dude do not go around looking for someone to get smart as an excuse to fight them. That is asking for trouble

I would only ever smash someones face into the curb if they threatened my gf or myself/family, not some random kid who insulted my car

370Zapper 03-15-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 446504)
I know it's silly but deep down, if you drove your car for while and nothing happened, i think you would be a little bit disappointed :)

it's kinda like the feeling a nice looking single woman would get when she showed up at a party and nobody made any move, even the ones who had no chance.

I guess you are right. It one way, it's a form of flattery, in another way, it's a form of stupidity.

I guess even I am guilty of it sometimes. Had my Z for about 3 weeks now, and last week I got really excited seeing a Ferrari 430 on the highway. He wanted no part of me, trying to get him to have a go. So, I win, right? :rolleyes:

Red370 03-15-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrell Tyson (Post 446811)
I train with UFC fighters but dude do not go around looking for someone to get smart as an excuse to fight them. That is asking for trouble

I would only ever smash someones face into the curb if they threatened my gf or myself/family, not some random kid who insulted my car

I wouldnt smash his face, just make him black out a bit :icon17:

Matt 03-15-2010 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zapper (Post 446843)
I guess you are right. It one way, it's a form of flattery, in another way, it's a form of stupidity.

Exactly. Whether someone is giving me a wave, or revving their 4 banger at me at a traffic light, it's because I'm driving a nice car...it's that simple.

I'll wave back to the wavers, and ignore the revvers.

xiven 03-15-2010 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 446642)
As much as I hate the lil bastards, they're deceptively quick, you cant really tell whats been done to the engine, I imagine they make power relatively cheap based on how many I see driven around here by some poor SOB's. We have privates driving them and I heard one saying something like hes making 400whp with a boost controller, exhaust and up pipe.

but its still a NEON :shakes head:

NewlyIMPORTed 03-15-2010 01:13 PM

idk 400whp on a neon isnt too solid when you have 7 inch tires and FWD

Matt 03-15-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xiven (Post 446932)
but its still a NEON :shakes head:

:iagree:

I had a '98 Neon Expresso. I'm so glad that thing isn't still in my driveway! (Ex-wife took it with her! Good riddance to both!)

wheee! 03-15-2010 01:20 PM

Had a 2004 Mustang GT on my tail this weekend. He started revving his motor at the lights and had a sour look on his face... then I heard the blow-off valve and knew I'd pissed him off.... maybe it was the plate...! :icon17:

http://www.the370z.com/members/wheee...love-plate.jpg

I let him pull around and fly past at mach 2; I just grinned :rofl2:

xiven 03-15-2010 01:26 PM

just stick your hand out your window, give him a thumbs up and then slowing change to thumbs down

NewlyIMPORTed 03-15-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xiven (Post 446973)
just stick your hand out your window, give him a thumbs up and then slowing change to thumbs down

:icon18:

Matt 03-15-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xiven (Post 446973)
just stick your hand out your window, give him a thumbs up and then slowing change to thumbs down



http://www.natzraya.org/Articles/App...diatordown.jpg

Zsteve 03-15-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 446993)

After you "pass" them, not racing them.

JvKintheUSA 03-15-2010 04:32 PM

They are all losers...

madelf 03-15-2010 08:41 PM

:iagree:

StealthZ 03-16-2010 03:32 PM

ahhh.... I just love it/hate it. It's one of those things that come with the Z. I personally can not stand mustangs though, mostly for the fact that they are mustangs and everyone has one around here, but the fact that ever Joe that owns one wants to race, and I for sake of not wanting to lose my license or God forbid my car, never give into it and let them sit there and do their thing. But one time, Mr. I'm going to race and beat you because I got a cool guy v-8 got owned. :) man I love my Z... Oh and the best part was the wifey was the one driving. lol next time I'll do the slowly thumbs down approach, that would great seeing their face and reaction.

NewlyIMPORTed 03-16-2010 04:27 PM

"lol next time I'll do the slowly thumbs down approach, that would great seeing their face and reaction."
http://www.bsideblog.com/images/2009...-sad-face.jpeg

Steevz 03-16-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirgiss (Post 444841)
LOL - I live over in Daleville right now and I know what you mean. People down here don't drive real friendly anyway - but going through E-prise is often funny. Haven't had anyone try to race me really other than on a trip to Dothan. A Mustang, Camaro and what turned out to be an undercover cop in a really sweet blacked out Charger. We weren't going that fast - 80 in the 65 - but when I started to pull around the Charger he hit his lights for a second, put his hand out the window and motioned to slow down, then gave me a thumbs up. Was pretty funny really.

Hey cool, what portion are you teaching? I'm about to start the 64 course. In fact this is my study break! Perhaps I'll see you around.

Kirgiss 03-17-2010 07:37 PM

[QUOTE=Steevz;449756]Hey cool, what portion are you teaching? I'm about to start the 64 course. In fact this is my study break! Perhaps I'll see you around.[/QU

I am a civilian Contract IP teaching UH-60's. I drive a Black Cherry Convertible. What are you driving? If you see me around say hello and introduce yourself.

Randy

LateralG'z 03-17-2010 07:58 PM

I love doing that too, except the other day some dumba** almost lost control and just about ran over some pedestrians so I think I am just going to ignore them so I don't see anyone die.:tiphat:


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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 443439)
I rev the piss out of the Z when they challenge me at stoplights. Then on green, I let them make complete foolz of themselves while I pull away normally. :tup:

Ever notice how many ricers are belching tons of smoke from their exhaust?


LateralG'z 03-17-2010 08:16 PM

what do you do at 24 that is so important, that your personal life is their business? Your personal life shouldn't matter if you have a traffic violation, most politicians have a felony on their record and still keep their jobs

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 445460)
I'd lose my job for a street racing ticket I know that!


m4a1mustang 03-17-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 451730)
what do you do at 24 that is so important, that your personal life is their business? Your personal life shouldn't matter if you have a traffic violation, most politicians have a felony on their record and still keep their jobs

I can give you probably 300 million reasons. :icon18:

And since when was a street racing conviction just a "traffic violation?"


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