350z or 370z

Z34drifty · 01-28-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by danops

Get the 7AT. It shifts in .500 second and is never going to misshift. With the amount of torque & horsepower, the 370z is fine with the automatic. It's only 50lbs heavier so its hardly an issue with weight.

It's also very responsive with the paddle shifters & the down shifts too.

haha There's the car I wanted in your picture.

NIZMOZ · 01-28-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Z34drifty

I have heard all the complaints about the 370z.
But it has somethings I would like to have in the 350z.
The thing would probably be the interior quality.
So basically I like both cars but the cluster gauges with the speed I would like.
I think the clock has no point to be there.

What should I do keep my 350z or trade it in for a 370z?

Note= I have a 07 touring Z
Should I wait a year or two till they fix these problems?

IMHO, the upgrade from a 07 to a 09 isn't worth it. The Interior quality isn't that much better over a 350Z. It is improved but not drastically to the point where it's worth it. If you had the older 350Z with the first interior and older DE engine then yes I would say upgrade.

MaximumPwr · 01-28-2009, 01:10 PM

I agree with Semtex. No car is perfect (unless you build it in your garage from frame up with everything you want). I have zero regrets though. Love the car more and more every day. Oh, one regret that I don't think anyone has said anything about yet.......no targa top.

Someone photochop one so we can see what it would look like. IMO it would be sweet.

Robert_Nash · 01-28-2009, 01:24 PM

I've had three, 350s and now my 370.

I mean no offense to anyone who currently owns any model of 350 but the 370 is hands-down a better car in virtually any way you want to measure it, including against the NismoZ.

I'm not suggesting that everyone who owns a 350 should just go out and buy a 370 but some of this quibbling sounds as if some are trying to placate themselves about not having a 370 and some of the complaints I've heard about the 370 sound a awful lot like those I heard when the 350 came out.

People should buy what they like.

NIZMOZ · 01-28-2009, 02:16 PM

3 350z and a 370z? Dang...you don't keep cars long.

260 vs 285 yes, 25hp. But 260 for a HR is the lowest I have seen also. There was another comparison on a dynopack I believe and it was only a 15 hp difference between the HR and the 370z.

The 370z is a improved car, some things aren't as good as the 350z and some things are better. To improve you have to give or take sometimes.

I bought my NISMO for a track car / daily driver and it has done well. It is the only 350z that still out performs the 370z in handling numbers however. But look what they had to do to it to make that happen. The 370z the way it is already does a lot better than the regular 350z!

I like how some of the underbody reinforcements under the back end of the 370z are. Man that is some serious metal under it.

Z34drifty · 01-28-2009, 11:51 PM

Thanks guys this does help out alot.
Man I want to have both cars but I don't want 2 2 seater.

Z34drifty · 01-28-2009, 11:53 PM

It is very hard right now because if I get it.
What would happen if I get laid off at Boeing there goes my car.
So far it is because of Boeing that I got my 350z.

zsport1 · 01-29-2009, 01:28 AM

Honestly, you can't go wrong with either car. But the numbers tell the real story.

This is NIZMOZ's dyno. Blue line is stock and red is after his UPREV tune

Here is a dyno of the 370Z

I haven't driven a 370Z yet. And neither has NIZMOZ. So for he or I to try to compare the cars really isn't fair. But everyone who I have spoken to who has driven the 370Z has said it is clearly faster than the 350Z and is an improvement in almost every way. Heavier? I honestly don't think the weight difference is going to slow down the 370Z on the track.
Bottom line- Get the car that appeals to you the most. Either way you will have a Z Car.

NIZMOZ · 01-29-2009, 07:44 AM

X2. I would personally drive both cars and then you make the decision. We kinda have someone doing the same thing locally and he is getting the NISMO because of it's limited edition value.

I am just going by the numbers on the test results of the cars, and the NISMO is over 2mph faster in the slalom over a 370z which is substantial for handling. I can't wait to drive one though, but if I do, I would probably buy one because that is the way I am, so I am trying to steer clear from them.

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Originally Posted by zsport1

Honestly, you can't go wrong with either car. But the numbers tell the real story.

I haven't driven a 370Z yet. And neither has NIZMOZ. So for he or I to try to compare the cars really isn't fair. But everyone who I have spoken to who has driven the 370Z has said it is clearly faster than the 350Z and is an improvement in almost every way. Heavier? I honestly don't think the weight difference is going to slow down the 370Z on the track.
Bottom line- Get the car that appeals to you the most. Either way you will have a Z Car.

zsport1 · 01-30-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

I am just going by the numbers on the test results of the cars, and the NISMO is over 2mph faster in the slalom over a 370z which is substantial for handling.

Ya but that's comparing a NISMO 350Z vs base 370Z. Not apples to apples in that comparison. Just wait til the NISMO 370Z comes out.

Z34drifty · 01-29-2009, 08:21 AM

Well so far I haven't got to drive a 370z yet.
I'll see if I can this weekend.

Lug · 01-30-2009, 03:47 PM

The NISMO slaloms better but the 370 can pull a lot more lateral G (.91 vs .99). This means on very tight tracks the NISMO may have an advantage but on a track with big sweepers, the 370 will rule. Kind of a wash on the handling data so far (in stock form of course)

Robert_Nash · 01-30-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

The NISMO slaloms better but the 370 can pull a lot more lateral G (.91 vs .99). This means on very tight tracks the NISMO may have an advantage but on a track with big sweepers, the 370 will rule. Kind of a wash on the handling data so far (in stock form of course)

How many sources/tests are you using to conclusively state that the NISMO 350 is faster through a slalom than a 370?

Lug · 01-30-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

How many sources/tests are you using to conclusively state that the NISMO 350 is faster through a slalom than a 370?

Just comparing Motor Trend data. In general, I've usually seen NISMOs at about 71 and 370s at 69 to 70. They are so close, it's really down to the driver anyway. Skidpads are usually something like .91 for the NISMO and .97 to .99 for the 370Z if I remember correctly. Sorry if I was being too "conclusive"

Robert_Nash · 01-30-2009, 04:28 PM

As I thought about it, it didn’t seem fair for me to ask what you are basing your conclusions on without providing at least a couple of sources myself so here goes…

370Z TESTS….
RoadandTrack.com -- New Car Search - Full Test: 2009 Nissan 370Z (1/2009)
Skidpad: 0.97
Slalom (700’): 71.4 MPH
0-60: 5.1 seconds
0-100: 12.8 seconds
¼ Mile: 13.7 @ 103.6 MPH

Comparison Test: 2009 Nissan 370Z vs. 2008 BMW 135i

EDIT: Now that I've read your reply, I see we were pretty much thinking alike!
Skidpad: 0.97
Slalom: 69.8 MPH
0-60: 5.1 seconds
0-100: ---
¼ Mile: 13.4 @ 104.6 MPH

NISMO 350Z Tests….
Follow-Up Test: 2007 Nissan Nismo 350Z
Skidpad: 0.91
Slalom : 70.0 MPH
0-60: 5.1 seconds
0-100: -----
¼ Mile: 13.6 @ 103.0 MPH

RoadandTrack.com -- Cover Story - The Fast & The Frugal: Nissan Nismo 350Z (8/2008)
Skidpad: 0.96
Slalom : 69.4 MPH
0-60: 5.3 seconds
0-100: -----
¼ Mile: 13.7 @ 102.3 MPH

Obviously, testing differs with any number of variables but based on the above (as well as other articles I’ve read, it looks to me like the 370 has an edge in the skidpad, in acceleration and is almost in a dead-heat as far as the slalom goes…the 370 seems to have a nice edge in braking (60-0) too although I didn’t list those numbers.

If someone is shopping a 370 compared to a NISMO 350; I’d say the decision is going to have to be made on issues other than the raw numbers and lets face it, regardless of which vehicle you give the nod to based only on the numbers, the numbers are so close that any “advantage” can easily be erased by driver skill (or lack thereof).

01-28-2009, 01:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Robert_Nash Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle TN/Savannah GA Posts: 762 Drives: '14 Q60IPL/'14Armada Rep Power: 18	I've had three, 350s and now my 370. I mean no offense to anyone who currently owns any model of 350 but the 370 is hands-down a better car in virtually any way you want to measure it, including against the NismoZ. I'm not suggesting that everyone who owns a 350 should just go out and buy a 370 but some of this quibbling sounds as if some are trying to placate themselves about not having a 370 and some of the complaints I've heard about the 370 sound a awful lot like those I heard when the 350 came out. People should buy what they like. __________________ Robert -My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama -

01-28-2009, 02:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	3 350z and a 370z? Dang...you don't keep cars long. 260 vs 285 yes, 25hp. But 260 for a HR is the lowest I have seen also. There was another comparison on a dynopack I believe and it was only a 15 hp difference between the HR and the 370z. The 370z is a improved car, some things aren't as good as the 350z and some things are better. To improve you have to give or take sometimes. I bought my NISMO for a track car / daily driver and it has done well. It is the only 350z that still out performs the 370z in handling numbers however. But look what they had to do to it to make that happen. The 370z the way it is already does a lot better than the regular 350z! I like how some of the underbody reinforcements under the back end of the 370z are. Man that is some serious metal under it. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

01-30-2009, 04:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
Robert_Nash Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle TN/Savannah GA Posts: 762 Drives: '14 Q60IPL/'14Armada Rep Power: 18	As I thought about it, it didn’t seem fair for me to ask what you are basing your conclusions on without providing at least a couple of sources myself so here goes… 370Z TESTS…. RoadandTrack.com -- New Car Search - Full Test: 2009 Nissan 370Z (1/2009) Skidpad: 0.97 Slalom (700’): 71.4 MPH 0-60: 5.1 seconds 0-100: 12.8 seconds ¼ Mile: 13.7 @ 103.6 MPH Comparison Test: 2009 Nissan 370Z vs. 2008 BMW 135i EDIT: Now that I've read your reply, I see we were pretty much thinking alike! Skidpad: 0.97 Slalom: 69.8 MPH 0-60: 5.1 seconds 0-100: --- ¼ Mile: 13.4 @ 104.6 MPH NISMO 350Z Tests…. Follow-Up Test: 2007 Nissan Nismo 350Z Skidpad: 0.91 Slalom : 70.0 MPH 0-60: 5.1 seconds 0-100: ----- ¼ Mile: 13.6 @ 103.0 MPH RoadandTrack.com -- Cover Story - The Fast & The Frugal: Nissan Nismo 350Z (8/2008) Skidpad: 0.96 Slalom : 69.4 MPH 0-60: 5.3 seconds 0-100: ----- ¼ Mile: 13.7 @ 102.3 MPH Obviously, testing differs with any number of variables but based on the above (as well as other articles I’ve read, it looks to me like the 370 has an edge in the skidpad, in acceleration and is almost in a dead-heat as far as the slalom goes…the 370 seems to have a nice edge in braking (60-0) too although I didn’t list those numbers. If someone is shopping a 370 compared to a NISMO 350; I’d say the decision is going to have to be made on issues other than the raw numbers and lets face it, regardless of which vehicle you give the nod to based only on the numbers, the numbers are so close that any “advantage” can easily be erased by driver skill (or lack thereof). __________________ Robert -My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama - Last edited by Robert_Nash; 01-30-2009 at 04:29 PM. Reason: I see we were thinking alike...

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MaximumPwr Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 78 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 17	I agree with Semtex. No car is perfect (unless you build it in your garage from frame up with everything you want). I have zero regrets though. Love the car more and more every day. Oh, one regret that I don't think anyone has said anything about yet.......no targa top. Someone photochop one so we can see what it would look like. IMO it would be sweet.

01-28-2009, 11:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
Z34drifty Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Auburn Posts: 253 Drives: through walls Rep Power: 17	Thanks guys this does help out alot. Man I want to have both cars but I don't want 2 2 seater.

01-28-2009, 11:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
Z34drifty Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Auburn Posts: 253 Drives: through walls Rep Power: 17	It is very hard right now because if I get it. What would happen if I get laid off at Boeing there goes my car. So far it is because of Boeing that I got my 350z.

01-29-2009, 01:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
zsport1 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: TEXAS Posts: 224 Drives: 300 Rep Power: 17	Honestly, you can't go wrong with either car. But the numbers tell the real story. This is NIZMOZ's dyno. Blue line is stock and red is after his UPREV tune Here is a dyno of the 370Z I haven't driven a 370Z yet. And neither has NIZMOZ. So for he or I to try to compare the cars really isn't fair. But everyone who I have spoken to who has driven the 370Z has said it is clearly faster than the 350Z and is an improvement in almost every way. Heavier? I honestly don't think the weight difference is going to slow down the 370Z on the track. Bottom line- Get the car that appeals to you the most. Either way you will have a Z Car.

01-29-2009, 08:21 AM	#11 (permalink)
Z34drifty Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Auburn Posts: 253 Drives: through walls Rep Power: 17	Well so far I haven't got to drive a 370z yet. I'll see if I can this weekend.

01-30-2009, 03:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	The NISMO slaloms better but the 370 can pull a lot more lateral G (.91 vs .99). This means on very tight tracks the NISMO may have an advantage but on a track with big sweepers, the 370 will rule. Kind of a wash on the handling data so far (in stock form of course)