Its always on. I see no real reason for me to turn it off. If I wanted to play around its one thing, but trying trying to drive to somewhere I don't need the action

I always turn it off....wet, dry, light driving, pushing.....though...even when you turn it off its still active....even off i don't like it...it still jumps in...i wish i could completely disable it permanantly.

Not true. There is another thread about this and it has been proven that when VDC is off nothing kicks in.

link to the thread?.. not because I don't trust what you're saying but because i do see my slip light come on sometimes when i have VDC OFF, so i'm wondering if it does or doesn't kick in. .... oo and i usually keep mine on during the winter months and always off in the summer, except in wet conditions.

slip light should come on whenever one wheel is spinning faster than the others, regardless of whether vdc is on or off, i think.

so its settled, its pretty much a 50/50 split

thats one ugly @ss man in your avy^^ jesus christ.... but i cant stop looking at it rofl

Hey we cant all be beautiful buddy, why do you think I got the Z? I need all the help I can get! :icon17:

Yes, you are correct. The slip light comes on either way.

i only take my z on dry days, unless the temps are 50F and under it's turned off.

been driving FR for a while so i know my limits. i dont push it, but i dont like it dictating how my car behaves.

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I don't drive with it at the track where I push the car to it's absolute limits hence I don't ever drive with it on the street. Yes it will rob you of power in turns if you push it.... besides, sometimes it's fun to kick it out a bit.

When it rains... always with it on.

Had an incident the other day... a very familar corner for me on the way home from badminton, it's a sweeping 270 degree loop on to a freeway, anyway in my previous car this would be a perfectly safe place where i'd floor the car in 3rd gear on the way out of the loop to get up to speed of the freeway traffic.

It was a wet day, in third gear, i did three quarter throttle in 3rd... and the vdc light went crazy... just to think, if it had been off, i would have scraped the right side of my rear bumper... never in my wildest dreams would i have thought that this car would break traction in that situation...

Two learnings that day... 1. this car is a damn powerful car and I being new to this level of power need to take the car on to a skid pan and learn to control it, 2. don't turn vdc off...

Learn to Drive (smoothly). It only kicks in when you're doing something stoopid or dangerous.

On.... Its always on for a reason... Plus I don't think I could control this beast with it off... :tup:

I never turn it off.

the most pre Z powerfull I drove was a 250hp megane CC and that was FWD

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ON, if you have any doubts search or crashes or accidents on the forum. A majority of crashes where Z's were not hit by other drivers were caused by mishandling with the VDC off! I personally don't like VDC interfering with my spirited driving buy I don't want my car in the shop either.

LOL the most popular excuse on the forum thus far.

basically ill put it this way... when driving w/ it on do you often see yellow squiggly lines poping up in the dash? if so - you are sliding and you should probably keep it off... however - if you have gotten used to driving it with the slip light off then i dont see why you cant turn off VDC and do the same... it is a learning tool which teaches you how far you can push your car...

fix'd. still don't agree on the roads, VDC is a great safety feature. you want to unlock the car's full potential? TRACK it.

I always wondered.

my button says ESP instead of VDC.

it IS the same thing right?

LOL ... same thing... but in regards to the comment above yours... I dont agree - VDC is all well and good but you can still fvck yourself up with it on... for instance: lets say you go into a turn wayyy too hot (or its raining and you forgot)... VDC kicks in and causes you to instantly understeer - BOOM you just hit the side rail...

All im saying is.. understand the car... understand the feature... and use it wisely... I would recommend ppl who can drive w/ it on but never see the car losing traction to try it off on familiar turns.. its hard to track your car every week :p

As far as I can tell from the little bit I've pushed the car with VDC off, any hard throttle exiting a turn will make the back break free. VDC will stay on unless I have a couple football fields worth of empty road around me! This car is damn powerful and I will admit down right scary if it breaks loose and you aren't ready. It must be respected as such!

I'm a very competent driver and I bought this car do drive, but the oversteer is sudden and nasty. I drive with it on almost all of the time. I sure wish it had a sport setting which allowed for more leeway though.

the throttle cutout is what ticks me off, its far to harsh.

For everyday driving I used to keep all the nannies off, until it got old pushing the button and seeing the light on. Now I leave them all on till I want to drive the car hard. I don't ever trigger DSC in my car by accident, and the only time I break traction is on purpose, so I'd rather only see the DSC off light illuminated when I plan to play a little.

ALWAYS be ready young padiwan!! :icon17:

Fixed:happydance:

Always on. The other day I turned it off to have a little fun. From a stop I made a left turn in first gear. Part way through the turn I stepped on it and the tires broke loose and the wife and I proceeded to go side ways through the turn. As I completed the turn, still in first gear, we were almost completely side ways so I let off the throttle and straitened it out. If I had more room I would have dropped second and kept going. Man that was a lot of fun.

I did something similar...sort of...lol

Parking lot, empty, slight incline to it, but not enough to throw things too far out of whack.

Stopped. VDC off. Kick the auto-stick over. Turn wheel all the way to the right. Floor it.

Car spins like a top. INSTANTLY. I did a 180 before I knew what happened (I expect it, but not THAT fast!) - so I stayed on it, and made another full circle (540) - then left the parking lot.

That was the last thing I've done involving VDC and the steering wheel being anything but straight.


A few days ago, I decided to remind myself of the amount of power. Dead stop. Turned off VDC. Kicked it over to the auto-stick. Floor it with wheels straight. Rear-end broke loose, and the rear kicked to the right then to the left for a mega-burnout in 1st through 2nd, and chirped 3rd.

VDC is a safety measure everyone should use. I don't care if you think you're a pro, the car has a VERY steep learning curve to it, and unless you want to explain to your insurnace company and pay high premiums, that extra safety measure is a good thing.

Maybe it is a bit too aggressive at knocking down the "funometer", but, it's doing so because perhaps the level of fun attempting to be had is bordering on stupid.

nope, your europeans get the special Z. ESP= EXTRA SPEEDY POWER. rockets pop out the back and you're in for a treat.

i apologize for the stupid joke.

Yes, to my knowledge, ESP=VDC. ESP stands for Electronic Stability Program. Nissan calls it VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) cuz they got tired of americans thinking their cars had psychic ability.

again, i apologize for the stupid joke.

it's raining

and you forgot it was raining

you also forgot you drive a powerful rwd car

you also forgot your foot operates a pedal that increases forward acceleration

i'm pretty sure having vdc off would save you there, yeah

Very nice. I'll have to try a good burnout one of these days. Never done one like you mentioned. Have you tried that in manual mode? Would there be any difference?

Manual mode lets you decide when to shift and the shifting is a bit firmer, so it keeps things spinninig ;)

Nothing like flooring it and having it run up and stay between 6K and 7.5K, shifting and it dropping a bit and staying at 6K-7.5K, shifting it again, and it dropping and grabbing.

The car rolling forward slowly (as compared to the speedometer) - lol

I'm sure it plays hell on the drivetrain, but man it's freaking nuts. All that without a brake-stand - just flooring it from a dead stop. ;)

i turn it off when it rains :tup:

sideway action FTW

LOL...Yeah, one guy killed and at least a dozen cars seriously damaged (and that's just the guys stoopid enough to tell us) with VDC off.... Tells ya something, doesn't it??....:ugh2:

this is probably why car manufacturers are making most sports cars AWD now!

Mine stay on unless I'm doing that VVV

Qualify that please?

porsche, ferrari, lambo for instance in many models, g37s too