A lot of noisy gravel getting kicked around

SoCal 370Z

So you are basing your assumption that a 370Z need not be quiet, or it's not a sports car unless you can hear the debris hitting the rear wheel wells? Or weight?

Then kindly remove the following (as they do not constitute a sports car):

• Passenger seat (not needed unless you have a passenger; you will not receive a ticket either—unless you take a passenger).


• Door panels


• Rear lid and back interior paneling


• Interior lighting


• Nav or stereo


• AC (Leave the heater as you will have to have it to legally drive in cold weather regarding the visibility through the windows.)


• Carpets


• Headliner


• Door kick plates


• Electric windows (Convert to hand crank—much lighter in weight)


• Replace the drivers seat because none the factory Nissan 370Z drivers seats have the proper bolstering to qualify for a true sports car.

The items above are convenience items and are not necessary for a sports car.

• Remove the following appearance items (not necessary for a sports car:


• Rim center caps


• Cut the exhaust tips off


• Throw away the engine plastic in the engine bay: covers etc.


• Sidemarker lights


• Burgers: front and rear

There is much more than can be dispensed with if you are qualifying the 370Z as a true sports car. Remove the items above and the 370Z will closer approach the true definition of a sports car.

Another route is to commission Mine's to actually make your 370Z into a real sports cars. (Mine's are more than qualified to do so. But I'm willing to bet that there only a handful here who can afford the price tag.)

So what was that definition of a sports car again? Thanks.

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nuTinmuch

Don't straw man me, bro.

I simply said that the 370 was designed around a specific price point as a performance car. You have a complaint about the interior noise that a small but vocal number of people have, that's okay and I understand -- but to call it a failing? I think that is an exaggeration because of the type of car that it is.

I wasn't saying that sound dampening or any of the other things you listed ruin the sports car experience, either. While you were very clearly trying to be smug as you made that list, if Nissan left out some of those things in the name of price I probably would've been okay with it. I also sort of think it is funny that you equate a minor amount of tire noise on dirty roads with things like air conditioning.

I actually think Nissan should have released the Nismo as a bare-bones track version that had no stereo, lighter bucket seats, etc. I can understand why they didn't (cost/profitability) and I wouldn't call it a failing, though.

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SoCal 370Z

You missed that my reference regarded those who are now more oriented to convenience and who is willing to pay for it. This reaches out into areas such as a rear window wiper, heated mirrors (for those in increment weather here). Nissan did fail as there are those of us who would have willingly paid more for the extra goodies that we find appealing. They missed that market by country mile. Why is that Nissan JDM has more factory accessories than we do and the North American market doesn't?

Maybe the smaller minority is the mature minority that didn’t really have to purchase a 370Z but chose to do so? Nissan should be happy we were interested. I have not knocked those who wish to decrease the weight of their Z; race their Z; add glass-shattering stereos to their Z. Not something I am interested in any longer (and I have no problem telling that to their face) but they are happy with doing so, and I'm happy for them. People have mentioned that they would enjoy less wheel well road debris noise and they are branded a minority of owners who do not understand sports cars or the premise of the Z? Well I'll be damned for being so out of place. Makes me regret actually purchasing a 240Z and a 280Z—when they were new. But then again, I'm in a minority.

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This is something I've always wondered about, I will admit. I guess Americans don't order those options so it isn't worth it? I really have no idea.

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