Tickets!

IDZRVIT · 03-07-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

Is that a Canada thing? I know cops can do visual estimations here. Maybe that's a state thing though.

Many, many years ago a friend of mine received a speeding ticket based on the cops 'visual'. He went to court and asked the judge if he could question the cop on his acute ability to estimate speed. Judge said yes. My friend looked at the cop, raised his arm and dropped it as fast as he could. He looked at the cop and asked "How fast was that?" The cop was dumbfounded and the judge sent my friend on his way!

frost · 03-07-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

Many, many years ago a friend of mine received a speeding ticket based on the cops 'visual'. He went to court and asked the judge if he could question the cop on his acute ability to estimate speed. Judge said yes. My friend looked at the cop, raised his arm and dropped it as fast as he could. He looked at the cop and asked "How fast was that?" The cop was dumbfounded and the judge sent my friend on his way!

I'll store that in memory for later use!

ricky bobby · 03-07-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

Without busting balls, what's the benefit of a sports car if it never speeds?

Pharmacist · 03-07-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pheonix

Way back when, I got stopped by a radar car who was on another stop as I passed them. He claimed that even though he hadn't laser tagged me, he spent enough time watching cars he could tell I was going over. Some of these cars do nothing but assigned traffic details. They get to know an approximation, and they can tell the speeds in their assigned wards or jurisdictions. It becomes their job.

I didn't get a ticket, but thats not the point. The point is yes...at least in this state, a visual estimation is as good as any other.

but even if you get a ticket, you can still get the pig to court and if your paralegal is halfway competent he should easily cast doubt on the estimated speed and the cop's "superman eyes" thing. i'd imagine unless he acutally used instrumentation to measure your real speed, this "i thought he was going too fast because I can sense it and i have very good vision" thing won't convince a judge.

03-07-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

perhaps he let you go because he didnt manage to get a reading on his radar, or maybe the radar was off. if either of that happened, he technically cannot write a ticket

A lot of cops now are qualified to judge how fast a car is going so they could still give you a ticket if they want.

Pharmacist · 03-07-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

A lot of cops now are qualified to judge how fast a car is going so they could still give you a ticket if they want.

would it hold up in court? in the absence of any physical evidence of speeding, would a judge still enter a conviction because of a cop's "gut feeling"? can't you just dispute the accuracy of the cop's superman senses for the judge?

Zsteve · 03-07-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

would it hold up in court? in the absence of any physical evidence of speeding, would a judge still enter a conviction because of a cop's "gut feeling"? can't you just dispute the accuracy of the cop's superman senses for the judge?

So are the cops certified for speed judgeing like their equipement? Dont think so, no one can acurately judge a vehicles speed all the time.

AMCPacer · 03-07-2010, 09:29 PM

Anyone ever use Trapster and found it to be useful? I downloaded it to my iPhone a couple of days ago, and I'm trying it out. I guess it may be useful in unfamiliar areas to warn you of known speedtraps/red light cameras.

03-07-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

So are the cops certified for speed judgeing like their equipement? Dont think so, no one can acurately judge a vehicles speed all the time.

I bet if you drive by me I could get within 2mph.. Like most officers could.

Pharmacist · 03-07-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

I bet if you drive by me I could get within 2mph.. Like most officers could.

yeah, you have superman senses

now why don't you put your talent to good use, like actually fighting real crime

03-07-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

yeah, you have superman senses

now why don't you put your talent to good use, like actually fighting real crime

You DO realize a lot of officers are QUALIFIED to do this right? As in there is training and they DO get used to judging? Stop being so biased for once dude you are pathetic.

I dont care about speeding by the way. Its just a fact I am stating.

Pharmacist · 03-07-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

You DO realize a lot of officers are QUALIFIED to do this right? As in there is training and they DO get used to judging? Stop being so biased for once dude you are pathetic.

I dont care about speeding by the way. Its just a fact I am stating.

yeah, pigs are calibrated to measure speed accurately with their super bionic eyes

i can't wait till one of your "qualified" pigs gives me a speeding ticket based on his "judgement" and the subsequent butt reaming my paralegals will give him in court

now

03-07-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

yeah, pigs are calibrated to measure speed accurately with their super bionic eyes

i can't wait till one of your "qualified" pigs gives me a speeding ticket based on his "judgement" and the subsequent butt reaming my paralegals will give him in court

now

You are just so tough man

Little do you know...What you get in NYC stands.

Pharmacist · 03-07-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

You are just so tough man

Little do you know...What you get in NYC stands.

i don't understand the last sentence or what it means, but if you check my profile you know i don't live in nyc. over here, only speed measured by radar or by a cruiser actually tailgating the car and matching speeds and then using the cruiser's speedometer to determine the speeding offence. so in nyc, they dont allow people to dispute traffic tickets in court or what?

03-07-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

i don't understand the last sentence or what it means, but if you check my profile you know i don't live in nyc. over here, only speed measured by radar or by a cruiser actually tailgating the car and matching speeds and then using the cruiser's speedometer to determine the speeding offence. so in nyc, they dont allow people to dispute traffic tickets in court or what?

You said one of the "pigs" therefore I assume you mean here. Believe me if you get a ticket here it stands. Even if police officers end up somehow getting tickets here....it stands.

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AMCPacer Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Living in my car Posts: 20 Drives: AMC Pacer Rep Power: 15	Anyone ever use Trapster and found it to be useful? I downloaded it to my iPhone a couple of days ago, and I'm trying it out. I guess it may be useful in unfamiliar areas to warn you of known speedtraps/red light cameras.