A Canadian Cluster should have readouts like this?

photoguy007

Believe my Canadian 370Z has had the cluster swapped for U.S. version.

I purchased a Canadian Z from my local U.S. dealer. My Nissan dealer just diagnosed my non-working Rev Matching, saying cluster is bad. And said I should only replace with a Canadian cluster, otherwise I may have issues.

Well, it appears my cluster has already been swapped with a U.S. one. A Canadian cluster should have these readouts, KM/H in white numbers, correct?

My cluster has KM/H in small orange numbers.

Could someone confirm?

Thank you!
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SeeThruHead

yes km/h in white. mph in orange

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photoguy007

Thank you!!!

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BettyZ

Oh man that's ****** up. Not too much of an issue though, the speedo is near-impossible to see at speed. Maybe get a heads up display?

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BettyZ

Your US dealer should be on the hook for replacing all of that if they are the ones who screwed it up prior to purchase.

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photoguy007

Purchased from a Chevy dealer, they won’t admit to changing the cluster. It’s at the Nissan dealer now. I’m trying to source a used Canadian one, no luck so far. Not paying $1500 for new one.

Thanks

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photoguy007

That’s not the issue, my Rev matching is apparently not working because my cluster should be Canadian as original.

Thanks

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BettyZ

Just goes to show, if it's fvcked up, it's probably canadian.

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cooltoy

Just goes to show, that when something American gets put where it does not belong, things get messed up.

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SonicVQ

Interesting problem...

From the FSM under P0500:
The vehicle speed signal is sent to the combination meter from the “ABS actuator and electric unit (control unit)” via the CAN communication line.
The combination meter then sends a signal to the ECM via the CAN communication line.

Soooo... the ABS module sends the wheel speed to the gauge cluster (via CAN bus) and it converts it to vehicle speed. The vehicle speed is then sent to the ECU.

It is possible the US cluster sends the vehicle speed in MPH to the ECU. Since the ECU is expecting KPH, it throws off the calculations and s-mode doesn't work.

^^^ just my 2¢

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abm89

You could just be a psycho like me and put a Haltech in. (I don't recommend that.)

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photoguy007

I did locate one today in Canada, really appreciate your help!! I’ll update once I pop it in, will probably be a week or two, not sure how long it’ll sit in customs.

Thanks a ton!!

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photoguy007

Appreciate all your help Betty! Really dig this forum!

Thank you!!

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ZoomZ

Yes. What I posted in his other thread. That's the only thing that bothered me, was no information about MPH or KPH signal to ECM.

That definitely could be the issue, but if such a signal is critical to function of ECM, you would think a Fault or failure would be shown as other systems are looking for a "specific" speed signal.

Not sure if this car (cluster) is smart enough for that.
Either way, I'm not 100% sure.

P.S. I Just looked into FSM a little deeper. In the Cruise control section, vehicle speed is also sent from Combo meter to ECM for CC function. In the system description, Nissan always gives the values as KPH (MPH) which leads me to believe my original theory, that "actual" values are not of concern, only signal pulses from Wheel speed sensors converted to a mechanical/electrical value for speedometer.

From FSM: "BASIC ASCD SYSTEM
Refer to Owner's Manual for ASCD operating instructions.
Automatic Speed Control Device (ASCD) allows a driver to keep vehicle at predetermined constant speed
without depressing accelerator pedal. Driver can set vehicle speed in advance between approximately 40 km/
h (25 MPH) and 144 km/h (89 MPH).
ECM controls throttle angle of electric throttle control actuator to regulate engine speed.