370Z Blind Spots

msl82 · 01-17-2009, 12:09 PM

why not just take a quick glance to the sides before you turn?, this is what i do because no matter what kind of mirror you have, it wont show everything.

The quick glance to the side rear doesn't even take more than 1 sec, and I find that the surest way to turn into the different lane without bumping into someone else...

frost · 01-17-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by msl82

why not just take a quick glance to the sides before you turn?, this is what i do because no matter what kind of mirror you have, it wont show everything.

The quick glance to the side rear doesn't even take more than 1 sec, and I find that the surest way to turn into the different lane without bumping into someone else...

As a part-time motorcycle rider, I never change lanes without a glance over the shoulder.

msl82 · 01-17-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

As a part-time motorcycle rider, I never change lanes without a glance over the shoulder.

Yes, i concur. I also took motorcycle class, and it only improved my road awareness more. The environment awareness helps you regardless whether your riding motorcycle or driving a car

quick glance over the should doesnt even take more than 1 sec and is the surest way....

Crash · 01-17-2009, 05:25 PM

On the immigration topic, I actually disagree. I won't generalize a group of people like that. I will say that I've seen both sides of the fence. My ex-girlfriend's family was illegal until she was born here. Although they still go back and forth to El Salvador, they don't act out of control. In fact, she and her sister don't act as if the parents EVER didn't have control over them. I have a lot of friends that came from south of the border, and none of them have that problem.

On the other hand, I DO see a lot of the times a family that seems "FOB" come into stores with wild children and they're tearing the place UP! I think it's no different from any family where the parents just don't give a crap about the kids, no matter what race they are.

I love Latinas the most, so I've spent a lot of time with the families. I've dated white girls, black girls, Asian girls, Latin girls of all sorts. Out of all of my experiences, the worst was with the white girls. The parents couldn't care less about what their daughters did. In one instance, I went to this one girls house, and made my decision to run for the hills because I saw how trashy they were and just couldn't believe my eyes. I was raised with dignity and pride. I nearly lost it all just walking into that house!

Crash · 01-18-2009, 10:36 PM

I've done both. My Formula was on the inner side and the Trans Am was on the outer side. The outer side was the best.

In fact, there was BETTER visibility on both mirrors going from the outer side. I don't know what I was thinking the first time. But I won't ever put them on the inner side ever again.
Further out, the better.

Z34drifty · 01-19-2009, 12:41 AM

I have never used one of those dome mirrors it's not hard to get into a lane where i live cause there are no cars driving near me
they stay 20 feet back

Crash · 01-19-2009, 03:30 AM

Lucky... People here in Los Angeles like to be in your blind spot on purpose. No joke.

If you even turn your turn-signals on, they'll speed up just to prevent you from changing lanes. I honestly wish that was a joke or an exaggeration.

ozzfest · 01-19-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Crash

Lucky... People here in Los Angeles like to be in your blind spot on purpose. No joke.

If you even turn your turn-signals on, they'll speed up just to prevent you from changing lanes. I honestly wish that was a joke or an exaggeration.

Oh, man. You hit the nail on the head with that one. I live down here in SD and its the same thing. They see you coming and they speed up.

Z34drifty · 01-19-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

Lucky... People here in Los Angeles like to be in your blind spot on purpose. No joke.

If you even turn your turn-signals on, they'll speed up just to prevent you from changing lanes. I honestly wish that was a joke or an exaggeration.

Really they only do that when I'm in my Camry

tvfreakazoid · 01-22-2009, 03:49 AM

Thats why invest in a bucket ride and I am sure you will have no problems changing lanes.
It's true what you say. I knew someone that lived their for a while and when I went to visit him the way he drove all I can say like "F***ing maniac". He said when you get cut off for the 100th time you learn how to adapt. Literally he was weaving in and out, cutting people off. You have to drive a little crazy in LA, but make sure you dont run into the crazy people with guns.

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Originally Posted by Crash

Lucky... People here in Los Angeles like to be in your blind spot on purpose. No joke.

If you even turn your turn-signals on, they'll speed up just to prevent you from changing lanes. I honestly wish that was a joke or an exaggeration.

semtex · 01-19-2009, 08:25 AM

I also put it on the lower outer edge. But here's an idea -- take a piece of scotch tape, fold it over on itself so that it's double sided, and experiment. Stick it on the outside, get in your car and look at it to see how it looks. Pull it off and stick it back on the inner side and repeat. Then when you decide where it suits you the best, you can remove the permanent backing and apply.

tvfreakazoid · 01-22-2009, 03:45 AM

Great idea. I will do that. Thanks for the tip.

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Originally Posted by semtex

I also put it on the lower outer edge. But here's an idea -- take a piece of scotch tape, fold it over on itself so that it's double sided, and experiment. Stick it on the outside, get in your car and look at it to see how it looks. Pull it off and stick it back on the inner side and repeat. Then when you decide where it suits you the best, you can remove the permanent backing and apply.

sprix! · 01-19-2009, 11:33 AM

Well, if you are having problems with vision and changing lanes, I would surmise your mirror are angled inappropriately. There is no reason you should not be able to see a car that is either behind you or next to you with the mirrors angled properly. Most people use their side view mirrors as rear view mirrors. (it isn't like a car is going to pop out of the rear of your car...

) That is- they have them aimed at the rear corners of the car like that is an area that one can't see from the .... oh I dunno.... REAR view mirror. If you use your side view mirrors and angle them towards the side of the vehicle, you will eliminate this. I will try to give you an idea of how I have my mirrors set up.
- My rear view mirror shows me everything that is behind my car.
- As something passes out of the field of my rear view mirror, it passes into the field of the side view mirrors.
- As something passes out of the field of the side view mirrors, it passes into my personal field of peripheral vision. In my opinion, you should NOT be able to see the side of your car in your side view mirror. If you can, you are not utilizing your mirrors fully. Why look at the side of your own car as you are traveling when it benefits much more to look at what is adjacent to you?
For most people, this may seem odd, but I found that setting up my mirrors like that effectively removed the blind spot from my vehicle.

Crash · 01-19-2009, 12:54 PM

I disagree... Unless you have one of those old style mirrors that go all the way across your windshield, and you have GIANT side mirrors that stick out 6 inches from the door, you CANNOT cover all the blind spots. Please do not drive around me.

As much as all my mirrors cover, I will not trust that I'm seeing everything.

sprix! · 01-19-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

I disagree... Unless you have one of those old style mirrors that go all the way across your windshield, and you have GIANT side mirrors that stick out 6 inches from the door, you CANNOT cover all the blind spots. Please do not drive around me.

As much as all my mirrors cover, I will not trust that I'm seeing everything.

You certainly have that right to disagree. Maybe I was unclear in my original post, but let me clarify and say that there will always be a blind spot, but there are methods of reducing it and making it more livable. I am not necessarily advocating that angling your mirrors in X fashion will allow you to see everything, but I am suggesting that most people have their mirrors placed in a way that is not conducive to seeing optimally. I will say again, if you have problems seeing what is directly behind your car in the rear view mirror, NO mirror will be enough. I don't have gigantic mirrors anywhere on my car, but I would argue that a blindspot is no longer an issue because of my setup on my mirrors. I guess it comes down to different people having different experiences.
As to the other replies- if you are not looking at the side of the car in the side view mirrors, I don't see how this is a problem. Most people do not have their side mirrors set up to see what is adjacent and to the rear of their cars. They look instead at the side of their own car which defeats the purpose of a side view mirror.
I haven't driven a 370z, but I have sat inside of one a few times and seen what the mirrors are set up like. That said, I don't believe I will have a problem with a blind spot when I get mine.

01-17-2009, 05:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 591	On the immigration topic, I actually disagree. I won't generalize a group of people like that. I will say that I've seen both sides of the fence. My ex-girlfriend's family was illegal until she was born here. Although they still go back and forth to El Salvador, they don't act out of control. In fact, she and her sister don't act as if the parents EVER didn't have control over them. I have a lot of friends that came from south of the border, and none of them have that problem. On the other hand, I DO see a lot of the times a family that seems "FOB" come into stores with wild children and they're tearing the place UP! I think it's no different from any family where the parents just don't give a crap about the kids, no matter what race they are. I love Latinas the most, so I've spent a lot of time with the families. I've dated white girls, black girls, Asian girls, Latin girls of all sorts. Out of all of my experiences, the worst was with the white girls. The parents couldn't care less about what their daughters did. In one instance, I went to this one girls house, and made my decision to run for the hills because I saw how trashy they were and just couldn't believe my eyes. I was raised with dignity and pride. I nearly lost it all just walking into that house! __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-18-2009, 10:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 591	I've done both. My Formula was on the inner side and the Trans Am was on the outer side. The outer side was the best. In fact, there was BETTER visibility on both mirrors going from the outer side. I don't know what I was thinking the first time. But I won't ever put them on the inner side ever again. Further out, the better. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-19-2009, 03:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 591	Lucky... People here in Los Angeles like to be in your blind spot on purpose. No joke. If you even turn your turn-signals on, they'll speed up just to prevent you from changing lanes. I honestly wish that was a joke or an exaggeration. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-19-2009, 08:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 34	I also put it on the lower outer edge. But here's an idea -- take a piece of scotch tape, fold it over on itself so that it's double sided, and experiment. Stick it on the outside, get in your car and look at it to see how it looks. Pull it off and stick it back on the inner side and repeat. Then when you decide where it suits you the best, you can remove the permanent backing and apply. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

01-19-2009, 12:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 591	I disagree... Unless you have one of those old style mirrors that go all the way across your windshield, and you have GIANT side mirrors that stick out 6 inches from the door, you CANNOT cover all the blind spots. Please do not drive around me. As much as all my mirrors cover, I will not trust that I'm seeing everything. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-17-2009, 12:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
msl82 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: united states Posts: 199 Drives: Nissan 370z Rep Power: 259	why not just take a quick glance to the sides before you turn?, this is what i do because no matter what kind of mirror you have, it wont show everything. The quick glance to the side rear doesn't even take more than 1 sec, and I find that the surest way to turn into the different lane without bumping into someone else...

01-19-2009, 12:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
Z34drifty Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Auburn Posts: 253 Drives: through walls Rep Power: 18	I have never used one of those dome mirrors it's not hard to get into a lane where i live cause there are no cars driving near me they stay 20 feet back

01-19-2009, 11:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
sprix! Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10 Drives: 06 Honda S2000 6MT Rep Power: 289	Well, if you are having problems with vision and changing lanes, I would surmise your mirror are angled inappropriately. There is no reason you should not be able to see a car that is either behind you or next to you with the mirrors angled properly. Most people use their side view mirrors as rear view mirrors. (it isn't like a car is going to pop out of the rear of your car... ) That is- they have them aimed at the rear corners of the car like that is an area that one can't see from the .... oh I dunno.... REAR view mirror. If you use your side view mirrors and angle them towards the side of the vehicle, you will eliminate this. I will try to give you an idea of how I have my mirrors set up. - My rear view mirror shows me everything that is behind my car. - As something passes out of the field of my rear view mirror, it passes into the field of the side view mirrors. - As something passes out of the field of the side view mirrors, it passes into my personal field of peripheral vision. In my opinion, you should NOT be able to see the side of your car in your side view mirror. If you can, you are not utilizing your mirrors fully. Why look at the side of your own car as you are traveling when it benefits much more to look at what is adjacent to you? For most people, this may seem odd, but I found that setting up my mirrors like that effectively removed the blind spot from my vehicle.