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SophiaZ 10-01-2020 02:43 AM

What’s your take on add ons?
 
As some of you know, I’m finally back into my Z after 9 long awaited years and I got into a 2020 50th anniversary edition. I’ve been struggling with the thought of adding a rear spoiler but would like yalls opinions on if it’s a bad idea or not. I probably won’t have the car for more than 2 years and if it becomes a collectors edition, I don’t want to ruin the value of it by adding a spoiler it didn’t come with. I already have plans on changing out the exhaust, HFCs, cold air intake and adding window tint but I will be keeping all the original parts if/when I trade in. What do you guys think? Adding a spoiler or no?

Optimiser 10-01-2020 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 3962971)
As some of you know, I’m finally back into my Z after 9 long awaited years and I got into a 2020 50th anniversary edition. I’ve been struggling with the thought of adding a rear spoiler but would like yalls opinions on if it’s a bad idea or not. I probably won’t have the car for more than 2 years and if it becomes a collectors edition, I don’t want to ruin the value of it by adding a spoiler it didn’t come with. I already have plans on changing out the exhaust, HFCs, cold air intake and adding window tint but I will be keeping all the original parts if/when I trade in. What do you guys think? Adding a spoiler or no?

No spoiler ;)

SOUTHZZ 10-01-2020 04:27 AM

You could be overly optimistic on the "collectors" value of your 2020Z.
Many thought the same about the 2005 Z33 anniversary edition.
Make the car yours.You want add-ons. Go for it.
Enjoy.

crazy4oldcars 10-01-2020 06:11 AM

Fora car I'm only going to keep for 2 years, I wouldn't bother with any mods. Of course, I've never only kept a car for 2 years, plus, I'm a 60-year-old tightwad, lol.


Kirk B.

SouthArk370Z 10-01-2020 07:48 AM

Unless you plan on racing, you don't need a rear spoiler. But if you like the way a spoiler looks, go for it - I doubt the 50th Anniversary model will be worth much more than any other 370Z (ie, not a collector car), so it's not like you will ruin the car. YMMV

viiv 10-01-2020 07:56 AM

If you don't want to hurt the potential collectors value of a car (you never know, maybe a future Fast and Furious type movie will feature our car, causing it's value to skyrocket) Did people who brought bitcoin for a dollar a piece know it was going to be $10,000 plus, doesn't hurt to preserve.

Anyways if you don't want to hurt the value of any car, rule #1: Don't drill holes in the sheet metal.

I am a fellow owner of a 2020; a base Passion Red, I debated on getting the OEM spoiler, and even though we are dealing with OEM parts here, couldn't bring myself to drill holes. Then I realized, the spoiler doesn't make it look better. It just looks different, and the spoiler-less model has it's own unique, almost Porsche like beauty.

If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, and you are itching to spend money on upgrading your baby, honestly, start with the fluids. I have an engineering background, and let me tell you, uprated fluids can cover or mask design flaws and limitations. This is what I recommend:

1. Motul RBF600 in clutch. DO THIS NOW. I had the dealer change this fluid before I drove off the lot. Each mile you drive right now with your crappy factory fluid, is wearing out your CSC. Our CSC's are weak, but if you change out your fluid religiously every year with fresh RBF600, your CSC may last you 200000+ km. Also RBF600 in brakes.

2. After you finish the break in period of 2000km, change out the rest of the fluids with the following full synthetics: Motul ATF VI in power steering. Redline 5W-30 in engine. Redline MT-85 in transmission. Redline 75W90 in rear differential.

As for parts, the truth of the matter is the only upgrades that generally don't hurt (and could slightly enhance) a car's value are first-party OEM performance parts (such as Nismo for Nissan for example). I may upgrade to a Nismo R-tune exhaust, as I get a bump in sound, performance and build quality. I just want a bit louder, but not cop magnet loud and I don't want to tank the value of my car.

PS. Instead of getting a spoiler, get the OEM front lip. I got it for my base, makes the front end look so much better and more aggressive and its only like $120 and doesn't hurt your resale.

Cyber370 10-01-2020 07:56 AM

Add a Nissan spoiler purchased through Nissan dealer and you'll be fine. But, I doubt there'll be any short term collectability for your car. Unless, Nissan royally screws up the new 400Z by making it electric or turning it into a SUV. That doesn't seem the case.

axmea? 10-01-2020 08:36 AM

Wait for 50 years and enjoy the show. That's if you have the time and a wife who won't bug you to get rid of it for whatever reason. Mod it to you heart's content.

cooltoy 10-01-2020 09:02 AM

Add the spoiler.

dave11 10-01-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by viiv (Post 3963016)
If you don't want to hurt the potential collectors value of a car (you never know, maybe a future Fast and Furious type movie will feature our car, causing it's value to skyrocket) Did people who brought bitcoin for a dollar a piece know it was going to be $10,000 plus, doesn't hurt to preserve.

Anyways if you don't want to hurt the value of any car, rule #1: Don't drill holes in the sheet metal.

I am a fellow owner of a 2020; a base Passion Red, I debated on getting the OEM spoiler, and even though we are dealing with OEM parts here, couldn't bring myself to drill holes. Then I realized, the spoiler doesn't make it look better. It just looks different, and the spoiler-less model has it's own unique, almost Porsche like beauty.

If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, and you are itching to spend money on upgrading your baby, honestly, start with the fluids. I have an engineering background, and let me tell you, uprated fluids can cover or mask design flaws and limitations. This is what I recommend:

1. Motul RBF600 in clutch. DO THIS NOW. I had the dealer change this fluid before I drove off the lot. Each mile you drive right now with your crappy factory fluid, is wearing out your CSC. Our CSC's are weak, but if you change out your fluid religiously every year with fresh RBF600, your CSC may last you 200000+ km. Also RBF600 in brakes.

2. After you finish the break in period of 2000km, change out the rest of the fluids with the following full synthetics: Motul ATF VI in power steering. Redline 5W-30 in engine. Redline MT-85 in transmission. Redline 75W90 in rear differential.

As for parts, the truth of the matter is the only upgrades that generally don't hurt (and could slightly enhance) a car's value are first-party OEM performance parts (such as Nismo for Nissan for example). I may upgrade to a Nismo R-tune exhaust, as I get a bump in sound, performance and build quality. I just want a bit louder, but not cop magnet loud and I don't want to tank the value of my car.

PS. Instead of getting a spoiler, get the OEM front lip. I got it for my base, makes the front end look so much better and more aggressive and its only like $120 and doesn't hurt your resale.


viiv

I also have a 2020. I had the R-Tune installed. It truly makes it a different car. It makes beautiful music.

SophiaZ 10-01-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3963019)
Wait for 50 years and enjoy the show. That's if you have the time and a wife who won't bug you to get rid of it for whatever reason. Mod it to you heart's content.

Well, considering how I don’t have to worry about a wife bugging me, I do as I please as I AM the wife :D

OptionZero 10-01-2020 03:05 PM

the issue is drilling holes for a spoiler on a trunk/hatch that does not have holes

frankly, the no-holes hatch is sort of valuable, esp to a 2015+ nismo owner that wants to swap spoilers

axmea? 10-01-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 3963057)
Well, considering how I don’t have to worry about a wife bugging me, I do as I please as I AM the wife :D

I love it!!!!

Rusty 10-01-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 3963057)
Well, considering how I don’t have to worry about a wife bugging me, I do as I please as I AM the wife :D

If you are only going to keep the Z for 2 years. Don't do anything to it. You won't get your money back. If you're going to keep it longer. Do what your heart wants. It's not going to be increasing in value for quite some time. It's more like after 30 years or more.

sx moneypit 10-01-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3963073)
If you are only going to keep the Z for 2 years. Don't do anything to it. You won't get your money back. If you're going to keep it longer. Do what your heart wants. It's not going to be increasing in value for quite some time. It's more like after 30 years or more.

:iagree:

Spooler 10-01-2020 04:19 PM

If it makes you happy, do it. Maybe you will keep it for longer.

Ventruck 10-02-2020 12:47 AM

It's hard to tell if this car appreciates down the road. The upcoming Z sheds light on a strong possibility this isn't a "last of it's kind" thing yet.

So make it what you want. That becomes the appeal with this car. Less electrical fuss compared to newer and newer cars. If you look through the forum thoroughly, there's mods that are "textbook" at this point.


However, being 2-year ownership, maybe you'll have the mindset of wanting something else altogether. So I guess yeah, near-stock and a few innocent add-ons may be the way to go; but to get your money's worth, make sure it's nothing in the vein of barn shed DIY work.

Quicksilvers 10-02-2020 06:00 AM

The 2020 50th Anniversary Edition 370Z is truly a remarkable looking vehicle to own. I have always enjoyed the two tone look on the Z! It’s your Z do as you like with but changing the exterior look is your call. If you plan on keeping your Z only two years or something like that I wouldn’t do much to it in terms of modifying. Keep your stock Genuine Nissan parts to return it back to stock form or near stock. You will not see much back from your mods unless you can find a Z enthusiast how can actually appreciate the 370Z and mods. When I sold my last Z I wish I would have sold it private owner to get more value for it! I spoke to a Nissan rep at SEMA last year regarding the new 2020 50th Anniversary Edition Nissan 370Z and he told me it is a future collector car how knows when as I was interested in them but I will be waiting to see what Nissan unveils with the 400Z? Either way the Anniversary and Edition Z cars are a part of the Z history and that can’t be changed! Congratulations and I hope you enjoy your Z our cars like to be driven. A lot of the Z enthusiasts are not too happy with the performance of the new 2020 370Z as it has not changed much really basically cosmetic only. Hopefully the new 400Z has improvements. As a Z owner I’m happy that Nissan is still building and selling our cars.

OptionZero 10-02-2020 02:01 PM

Did a human being write that or some bot?

crazy4oldcars 10-02-2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3963211)
Did a human being write that or some bot?

People have asked that about Quicksilver before....



Kirk B.

SophiaZ 10-02-2020 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by crazy4oldcars (Post 3962990)
Fora car I'm only going to keep for 2 years, I wouldn't bother with any mods. Of course, I've never only kept a car for 2 years, plus, I'm a 60-year-old tightwad, lol.


Kirk B.

:roflpuke2:

SophiaZ 10-02-2020 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3963211)
Did a human being write that or some bot?

Last time I checked, I was not a bot...video gaming bot, sure.

SophiaZ 10-02-2020 07:49 PM

I appreciate everyone opinions:tup:
When I said I will only have the car for 2 years, it’s not that I don’t love my car, it’s just that I’ll have less mileage and will have much better resale value. My 4-5 year plan is to be in a new GTR (assuming Nissan isn’t dead by then)

I’m just gonna stick to my basic mods that I previously mentioned minus the spoiler.;)

cooltoy 10-02-2020 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 3963250)
Last time I checked, I was not a bot...video gaming bot, sure.


OZ was not talking about you.

NecioVato 10-02-2020 09:49 PM

Like a lot of people have said - since this platform has been around for a long time - I find it hard to believe that the 50th would become a collectors item more than lets say the 40th (which has the best color from factory - my opinion) and red seats from factory to begin with. Also if there were to be a collectors edition - I would lean toward either the 40th or the last year of the ‘numbered’ Nismo editions.

If adding a spoiler is something you want but don’t want to drill holes - an option that you might want to check out is seeing if you can’t find a wrecked/part out car that someone is selling and see if you can’t grab the hatch hood from and then look to replace out your current hatch - this way when you decide to go back to stock - you have the original part. Personally - I would say - enjoy it, mod it to your heart’s content bc in the end, it’s just a car and I seriously doubt it will jump up in value if you only plan on keeping it for a few years. Good luck with whatever you decide....and....POST SOME PICS of the NEW Z :)

JARblue 10-03-2020 07:17 AM

Mod the car to your heart's desire and forget everything else :twocents:

If you bought this car to minimize your financial loss, you chose the wrong car.

Spooler 10-03-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 3963250)
Last time I checked, I was not a bot...video gaming bot, sure.

He was talking about Quicksilver.....

vtec to vvel 10-03-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 3962971)
As some of you know, I’m finally back into my Z after 9 long awaited years and I got into a 2020 50th anniversary edition. I’ve been struggling with the thought of adding a rear spoiler but would like yalls opinions on if it’s a bad idea or not. I probably won’t have the car for more than 2 years and if it becomes a collectors edition, I don’t want to ruin the value of it by adding a spoiler it didn’t come with. I already have plans on changing out the exhaust, HFCs, cold air intake and adding window tint but I will be keeping all the original parts if/when I trade in. What do you guys think? Adding a spoiler or no?

1. You bought the car because YOU like it, and not to impress others, therefore, do what YOU want with it.
2. IMO, the Z looks best with a tasteful spoiler, such as OEM, vs no spoiler.
3. If you are worried about value, any aftermarket/non-OEM add-ons, both cosmetic and esp. performance, will decrease the value of the car.
4. You've got a long way to go IF the 50th edition should become a collector's item. My bet would be the 45th edition has a higher chance of becoming a collector's item than the 50th, but that's just IMO.

vtec to vvel 10-03-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3963313)
If you bought this car to minimize your financial loss, you chose the wrong car.

I hear people say all the time that a vehicle is an "investment". IMO, a vehicle is an expense, not an investment. Yes, there are certain vehicles in which they are gaining value, however, consider the costs associated with maintenance.

viiv 10-04-2020 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3963369)
I hear people say all the time that a vehicle is an "investment". IMO, a vehicle is an expense, not an investment. Yes, there are certain vehicles in which they are gaining value, however, consider the costs associated with maintenance.

IMO, there is more than one kind of 'investment'. Living a miserly life with more 0s in your bank account is a life not worth living. A 370z is an investment in your pleasure (you only live once), and for the price, it's a damn good one.

JARblue 10-05-2020 08:32 AM

Owned property is either an asset or a liability. Vehicles are always a liability with the exception of very few makes and models over the years. One can invest in a vehicle and get value out of it, but the vehicle is still a liability in a financial sense.

vtec to vvel 10-05-2020 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3963591)
Owned property is either an asset or a liability. Vehicles are always a liability with the exception of very few makes and models over the years. One can invest in a vehicle and get value out of it, but the vehicle is still a liability in a financial sense.

:iagree: My point exactly. From a financial aspect, a vehicle, except for certain cases, is a liability/expense, especially if your Z is *NOT OWNED* and still being financed.

On a personal level, I suppose it could be an investment towards your happiness, but this isn't going to create net worth.

Latt 10-06-2020 12:04 AM

Do whatever is best for you and your budget. If you want to mod it go for it but do not expect any gains $$ wise from the mods you put in it. I hear you on the 2 year plan and if modding the car makes you happy then go for it but expect no returns on your investment.

Most of the folks that post on this forum have owned their Zs for years...hell I have owned mine for 8+ years now not that I post much=). (think I just showed my age there) Everyone here just wants you to be a happy Z owner and offer their insight. Go drive the damn thing and enjoy it!!!

Latt

SophiaZ 10-06-2020 01:13 AM

This is my 3rd 370Z and I’ve never loved a car more than our Z’s, for sure. I “plan” on only keeping it for 2 years but I’ve never had one for more than a year but this one I plan to mod and make my own. I do want it to keep value but in all honestly, who knows. I may dump a lot of money into this one and make it custom to my liking and keep it til it dies. I can’t say what the future holds but I’m having hella fun driving it fully stock right now. I don’t work so I try and find something I should do every day just so I can go take her out for a little daily drive

SOUTHZZ 10-06-2020 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 3963746)
This is my 3rd 370Z and I’ve never loved a car more than our Z’s, for sure. I “plan” on only keeping it for 2 years but I’ve never had one for more than a year but this one I plan to mod and make my own. I do want it to keep value but in all honestly, who knows. I may dump a lot of money into this one and make it custom to my liking and keep it til it dies. I can’t say what the future holds but I’m having hella fun driving it fully stock right now. I don’t work so I try and find something I should do every day just so I can go take her out for a little daily drive

Keep it for 2 years...
Did you pay cash for it?

Or,you are always in debt with a car payment.

Maybe its me,seems being out of debit as much as possible makes sense in today's crazy world.

Just sayin.

ZRud3Bwoy 10-06-2020 02:51 PM

If you're not going to keep the car then don't put money on it

my first Z is coming this week and i would never put money in it if i am going to sell it,i paid straight cash for my Z 25k to be sure i have no monthly payments etc,be wise with your money sir

dave11 10-06-2020 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by viiv (Post 3963436)
IMO, there is more than one kind of 'investment'. Living a miserly life with more 0s in your bank account is a life not worth living. A 370z is an investment in your pleasure (you only live once), and for the price, it's a damn good one.

I lost more in depreciation on the car I traded in than I paid for my Z. This is my second Z. Both were revelations. Both were some of the most enjoyable cars I have ever owned, and I have been driving over 60 years. IMHO it would be hard to get a better bang for your buck.

WORTH EVERY DOLLAR

Rusty 10-06-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dave11 (Post 3963842)
I lost more in depreciation on the car I traded in than I paid for my Z. This is my second Z. Both were revelations. Both were some of the most enjoyable cars I have ever owned, and I have been driving over 60 years. IMHO it would be hard to get a better bang for your buck.

WORTH EVERY DOLLAR

So.......... you would be about 77 or close to it.

vtec to vvel 10-06-2020 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3963851)
So.......... you would be about 77 or close to it.

My bet is 76.

He said he's been driving over 60 years, so we will just say 61 years. Assuming he's been in FL his entire life, he would have been able to get his permit at 15.

dave11 10-07-2020 01:02 PM

76 in a couple of months


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