How to shift faster?!?!?!
 

Hey guys,

EDIT: Initial post was poor example. This thread is a focus on how the RPMs hang there for a bit after disengaging the cluth. It seems to take forever for the RPMs to fall fast enough to engage the next gear smoothly. This only seems to happen when the SRM is on. Any tips on upshifting to the next gear quicker with the SRM on?

why would you want the rpm to drop?

i switched the synchro rev matching on so the rpm would be the same at each shift point :)

It sounds like you're making an uncomplicated matter more complicated. If you're smooth with your clutch, you can shift as quickly as you want at any RPM. I guarantee the RPMs will fall to the next gear's range faster than you can shift. You don't have to pause while shifting to match RPM.

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OMG, why would you let your RPM drop before you shift? Hell, I don't even press my clutch all the way in normal driving when I clutch...I just press it to where it's enuf to shift smoothly and then changed gear....if anything, I may keep my foot on the acceleration pedal a millisecond longer just to keep the RPM up when I shift...

Why do you want to shift faster when you're shifting at 3k anyways? And why are you waiting till the revs drop to 1.5k!!! Oh my!

Should've bought an AT mate

dont forget throttle. its just as important to a shift as the clutch. you need to be compensating for the load of reconnection between trans and engine. if you let the clutch completely out AND THEN give it throttle, it will be an unsatisfying shift, but if you are on the throttle the appropriate amount just before the clutch re-engages, you will have a smooth/faster shift no matter what the rpm.

I am increasingly worried about the future of the car guy.
Seems like we are a dying breed fellas.

:tiphat: i can't help but agree unfortunately

*sigh*

The breed slowly withers away and we are left with.. Supragtsxr

lol jsut burning you kid... but u should have never bought a manual. I understand everyone learns at sum point, but that is not meant for a new Z where your not gonna try to "speed shift" at 3k

we can all tell where this thread is going.

i read his post again and hated myself for it....

:iagree: Society is trying to turn us into "green car guys" :p

John

Just a question. Since Im more used to riding a manual motorcycle. When I shift on my bike, I apply a little throttle while releasing the clutch to smooth out the shift and prevent engine braking/jerking, but when driving a stick and i try this it jerks even more than if i didn't apply any throttle at all. am i doing something wrong? don't flame me for being a noob :shakes head:

I'll flame you because that was a statement... not a question. :icon18:

All I have to say is use your head and practice. If you keep a level head and use common sense while learning to properly operate your manual transmission, the worst damage you will do is reduce the life of your clutch.

lol i noticed after I read it over and edited it, but guess you were too fast ;)

Fastest way to shift? Tear open the sides of your steering wheel column and place paddle shifters there :roflpuke2:
I kid, I kid.

Buy a 370Z with the 7AT.

Why do I have to provide ALL the correct answers around here?

Sorry to be the one to tell you, but you were too late.

Yea, you know all about "paddles" don't cha :roflpuke2: :tiphat:

Just ask this chick, paddles own all


http://www.noodad.com/wp/images/stor...ith-paddle.jpg

Yea baby :yum:

Its all about knowing what rpm the engine should be at in a specific gear. Just like rev match downshifting, you will want to make sure the rpms are in the correct position for the gear during an upshift. If you clutch in, upshift, and clutch out really fast then the shift will probably be jerky because the rpms will most likely be higher than the desired gear. Same think if you clutch in, upshift, and clutch out too slowly...the rpms will be too low causing a jerky shift. Its all about finding a rhythm.

:facepalm:

No way, the paddle girl made it a win.

That's the only thing, that's giving this thread some worth....

Wow geez man I got so much hate im practically in tears lol. Maybe i should have been more specific. I gave an example cuz im not exactly sitting in my car where id 'feel' the right RPM and be able to comment. Maybe i should have gave a timeframe instead ya?

Let's say...im shiftin from 1st to 2nd. It takes rougly 1-1.5secs to push the clutch in, let the RPM fall, and engage 2nd gear smoothly. Somehow i just feel this is too slow. It seems that when i push the cluth in, the RPMs stay as if i had not let the clutch out at all (i think the syncro rev match). In fact, the rpm wont fall until i move the shift lever into 2nd gear....that's when the rpm will drop down and i can engage the clutch.

Does anyone else notice this or just me? If i turn the rev match off the rpms will fall sooner (like a regular manual tranny) and i can shift faster. Does this make sense?

I believe I have every one whipped on that issue!

Whipped, good one!

http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...6t-rimshot.gif

not hating but i think you should have bought a 370z with an automatic transmission like another forum member has suggested because people who drive a manual regularly don't have this problem.

practice. you're doing it wrong....

Don't let the revs fall. Release the clutch and get back into the throttle in one smooth motion. That's why you're upshifting -- to accelerate.

Otherwise, just continue slowing the car to a stop without upshifting. If you happen to come to a stop at a Toyota dealer, pick up a Camry while you're there.

:bowrofl::roflpuke2:

hes probally talking about how the rpms hang for a bit. if im just cruising around i turn SRM off since it causes the rpms to hang causing a jerky shift. the gear ratio difference is pretty big between first and second.

^ THIS!!!! Thanks Spec Jay i think you're the only one who understood what i was saying. Everyone else was too busy flaming me lol :hello:.

I don't have an issue making smooth upshifts btw. I was tryin to describe what Spec Jay is saying here. It's the RPM 'hanging' up there that was annoying me lol. And ur right, I'll prolly just turn SRM off and just be done with this.

And to the forum moderators....HELP!!! I HAVE BEEN FLAMED TO DEATH!!! Quickly lock this thread so I can have time to put myself out before they pour more gasoline on me!! :ughdance:

:roflpuke2: i can appreciate a joke amidst the flaming!

Too Late! lol

Eat more prunes and you will shift faster!

:stirthepot:

Get an automatic

That's weird, I thought you were having issues upshifting because you forgot where your clutch pedal was