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HXCloud 09-24-2019 10:52 AM

Looks, or power?
 
For the longest time, I have been having an internal debate between whether I should start spending money on the looks of my Z first, or if I should spend money on boosting the HP and torque of my car first. The only thing I've done so far is a muffler delete and added AAM non-resonated shorttails in it's place. What do you guys think?

chowtoo 09-24-2019 11:04 AM

If it is for the streets, go for the looks! It has enough power now for the streets, so looks will give you more pleasure.

Spartan 1771 09-24-2019 11:19 AM

Do both a little at a time. That's what I've been doing.

Rusty 09-24-2019 12:01 PM

1. Suspension.
2. Brakes.
3. Rims and tires.
4. Power
5. Looks.

SouthArk370Z 09-24-2019 01:38 PM

Drivability is more important than power or looks. YMMV

Hotrodz 09-24-2019 01:56 PM

The great thing about the Z is you can have it all.

1. Easy bolt ons oil cooler, drop in filters and exhaust

2. Follow Rusty's list.

I am a total function over form kinda guy. Suspension and drivetrain up grades make the car incredibly fun to drive even if you don't track. There are bunch of threads on what to do first. For me if I were to do it again after number 1 I would get a Hotchkis front sway bar and then a quality rear diff. Then go from there.

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Zyonara91 09-24-2019 02:42 PM

Power over looks any day of the week. Rusty's list is key.

HXCloud 09-24-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3879623)
The great thing about the Z is you can have it all.

1. Easy bolt ons oil cooler, drop in filters and exhaust

2. Follow Rusty's list.

I am a total function over form kinda guy. Suspension and drivetrain up grades make the car incredibly fun to drive even if you don't track. There are bunch of threads on what to do first. For me if I were to do it again after number 1 I would get a Hotchkis front sway bar and then a quality rear diff. Then go from there.

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Do you think the stock Nismo suspension as well the limited slip differential that comes with it is fine as is for now? I'd rather not spend money on something I don't "need" currently and/or doesn't improve performance/handling by a decent margin over what is currently installed.

Hotrodz 09-24-2019 03:20 PM

It all depends on you goals! If you are planning to do track days you will start to out perform you rear diff in two three weekends. If you are just going to street the car it can wait. I was amazed at what a difference my Wavetrac rear diff made.

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DrBacon 09-24-2019 03:32 PM

Definitely go before show personally. Money spent on visual mods: $700 (I just really wanted those halo LED headlights). Money spent on Performance mods: Probably close to $13k now. I have a problem.

Hotrodz 09-24-2019 04:25 PM

Along with your goals what is you budget? I compare everything to the cost of consumables when making decisions. I will buy two or three sets of tires a year so if I am looking to buy something that is going to last me for the life of the car or several years it's a no brainer....I buy it. I also understand that I am in a position that allows me to make decisions like that. Don't spend money if it means you can't keep the lights on. Start with number 1 and save your money. If you plan to track do number 1 and spend your money on tires, brake pads fluids and all the track time you can get until the car becomes your limiting factor. I know this because I did it all bassakwards!!!

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Magic Bus 09-24-2019 04:30 PM

HX Cloud, Since you have a 2016 Nismo, I'd say power & driveability over looks. You've already got a beautiful car stock.

If you're already a 9 in the looks department, trying to improve to a 10 is tough. If you had a base Z, then I'd say, split the money.

OptionZero 09-24-2019 04:50 PM

It's your money and your car, and more importantly, your happiness

Not sure we can answer that question for you.

You should probably ask yourself whats more important - looks or power

If you arent sure, before you spend money, here's a simple test

Go to a car show
Go to a race track

What makes you happy?

Hotrodz 09-24-2019 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3879658)
It's your money and your car, and more importantly, your happiness

Not sure we can answer that question for you.

You should probably ask yourself whats more important - looks or power

If you arent sure, before you spend money, here's a simple test

Go to a car show
Go to a race track

What makes you happy?

LMAO, this is the shortest well stated post you have done in some time! I agree whole heartedly!

And as us track car guys like to say "a track car is a show car!"

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HXCloud 09-24-2019 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3879658)
It's your money and your car, and more importantly, your happiness

Not sure we can answer that question for you.

You should probably ask yourself whats more important - looks or power

If you arent sure, before you spend money, here's a simple test

Go to a car show
Go to a race track

What makes you happy?

Unfortunately, the closest thing (within like 100 miles) to a track where I currently live is a dragstrip. While I do find this enjoyable, I certainly would get bored rather quick just going in a straight line for 13+ seconds at a time. I recently joined a club though, that has meetings and shows fairly regularly in locations really close. I enjoy showing this car off, and I love when people have positive comments and compliments on it. I do daily drive my car so I wouldn't want to go overboard with power. I was thinking about wrapping the car and I was priced at 1800 for any design/combination of designs, as the price is for the amount of material and it would cover the entire car. That's why I have had a touch time deciding, is because I want to show off the car, but I also want to have a grand time driving it.

OptionZero 09-24-2019 05:44 PM

Whatever your circumstances, i think its pretty ludicrous to decide what you should do with a goddam online poll

Rusty 09-24-2019 06:40 PM

I make decisions base on what I need at the time. I knew what I was going to use for the car. Being a track rat. I improved on what I thought was the weak links in the car as my driving improved and I got fastest. Once I get the coil-overs and 6/4 big brake kit that I want (dream off). Then I might go FI. Have to have the car to be able to handle the extra power first, before adding a chit load of power.

blueranger 09-24-2019 09:29 PM

Step 1: High Risk Power.

Step 2: Don't look back.

BettyZ 09-24-2019 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3879665)
Whatever your circumstances, i think its pretty ludicrous to decide what you should do with a goddam online poll

Is it though? Look at all the quality suggestions and responses he got from that one simple question.

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Hotrodz 09-24-2019 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blueranger (Post 3879720)
Step 1: High Risk Power.



Step 2: Don't look back.

Haha, I was trying to keep him from doing full stupid like you and I!

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Zyonara91 09-24-2019 10:25 PM

This actually reminds me of a good story.

The leader of the Sikh empire, Ranjit Singh, was a very powerful man, who was extremely wealthy had and a great amount of knowledge and wisdom. Though he had all of this he wasn't easy on the eyes, he had a visible lazy eye.

One day someone went to him to take a under the rug type of jab, the man jokingly said "Hey, Ranjit, where were you when God was giving out good looks?". People laughed. Ranjit replied "While you were in line for good looks, I was busy building the skills required to build an empire".

As it's been stated before, power > looks. When you have power people look at what and who you are. When you have looks people will also look at ya, but looks aren't enough skills to pay the bills.

Tigger 09-24-2019 10:33 PM

Or, just buy a 911 and be done with it. :stirthepot:

Zetine 09-25-2019 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HXCloud (Post 3879661)
Unfortunately, the closest thing (within like 100 miles) to a track where I currently live is a dragstrip. While I do find this enjoyable, I certainly would get bored rather quick just going in a straight line for 13+ seconds at a time. I recently joined a club though, that has meetings and shows fairly regularly in locations really close. I enjoy showing this car off, and I love when people have positive comments and compliments on it. I do daily drive my car so I wouldn't want to go overboard with power. I was thinking about wrapping the car and I was priced at 1800 for any design/combination of designs, as the price is for the amount of material and it would cover the entire car. That's why I have had a touch time deciding, is because I want to show off the car, but I also want to have a grand time driving it.

It sounds like you might as well do both! Nothing wrong with spending money on both looks and power.

Personally I am planning on alternating between the two, since I'm in the same boat as you. Starting with a CBE, then hopefully getting a NISMO conversion kit. I don't think it's ever been done before.

I will say this though, I'll always appreciate someone who focuses solely on power rather than just on looks, such as sleeper cars. Here in the UK, all we seem to get are little VW Polos which are cambered out so much that they're scraping the floor. To each there own, but I just don't see the appeal...

Spooler 09-25-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3879672)
Then I might go FI.

I would be surprised. LOL

Rusty 09-25-2019 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3879843)
I would be surprised. LOL

I get rid of the motor home. You never know. Might be a 488 Pista. It would be cheaper. :icon14:

Spooler 09-25-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3879851)
I get rid of the motor home. You never know. Might be a 488 Pista. It would be cheaper. :icon14:

That is too true... I would pass on the 488 Pista. That's just me though.

Rusty 09-25-2019 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3879852)
That is too true... I would pass on the 488 Pista. That's just me though.

That would piss off the neighbors even more. :rofl2:

CMadison 09-25-2019 02:22 PM

If looks don't matter, then why did everyone here buy the Z?... instead of an old rat rod or something?

Hotrodz 09-25-2019 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CMadison (Post 3879875)
If looks don't matter, then why did everyone here buy the Z?... instead of an old rat rod or something?

The number one answer is I wanted a sexy two seater with some power that wouldn't break the bank (speaking figuratively of course) that not every other swinging **** was driving!

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Zezus 09-25-2019 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3879877)
The number one answer is I wanted a sexy two seater with some power that wouldn't break the bank (speaking figuratively of course) that not every other swinging **** was driving!

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Facts.

SouthArk370Z 09-25-2019 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMadison (Post 3879875)
If looks don't matter, then why did everyone here buy the Z?... instead of an old rat rod or something?

Great handling. Good HP-to-weight ratio. Decent price. Just happens to look good, too.

Rusty 09-25-2019 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3879877)
The number one answer is I wanted a sexy two seater with some power that wouldn't break the bank (speaking figuratively of course) that not every other swinging **** was driving!

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:iagree:

Hotrodz 09-25-2019 07:55 PM

Gonna just get one these and call it a day!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...40e8d3ded4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5e51b9c28a.jpg

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BettyZ 09-25-2019 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3879911)
Gonna just get one these and call it a day!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...40e8d3ded4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5e51b9c28a.jpg

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But what will you mod?!?

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madwi 09-25-2019 08:51 PM

Powder coat the ugly blue wheels first.

Hotrodz 09-25-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3879920)
But what will you mod?!?

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If I had that kind of money, anything I want!!!:p

The the guy driving the transport truck of this beauty said this car is being prepped for the track and the owner has another one that he streets!:eek:

Hotrodz 09-25-2019 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3879922)
Powder coat the ugly blue wheels first.

At 3.4 million I think those wheels look freaking awesome. I got to say that I have never been a fan of the looks of a Bugatti but being up close and personal and being able to see the craftsmanship it is simply amazing!

madwi 09-25-2019 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3879927)
At 3.4 million I think those wheels look freaking awesome. I got to say that I have never been a fan of the looks of a Bugatti but being up close and personal and being able to see the craftsmanship it is simply amazing!

After checking one out in vegas, it is easier to appreciate the car vs. just seeing pics on the webz.

Rusty 09-25-2019 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3879911)
Gonna just get one these and call it a day!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...40e8d3ded4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5e51b9c28a.jpg

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Need to get the long tail version. Top speed 304 mph. :driving: Said there was more in it. But was afraid he wouldn't slow down in enough to make the turn coming up.

Rusty 09-25-2019 10:02 PM

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If I had that kind of money, anything I want!!!:p

The the guy driving the transport truck of this beauty said this car is being prepped for the track and the owner has another one that he streets!:eek:

You need to shake that tree a little harder in the backyard.


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