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Z eliminator 01-07-2010 10:50 AM
I ran those times on the stock 19 inch tire's. Can not wait to see what the DR's will do.
In responce to the super charged Mustang, with 550 hp. It will be a quick car, but wait till somebody show up with a twin turbo 370 z.
I will bet on the z to be faster.

MightyBobo 01-07-2010 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 356115)
I ran those times on the stock 19 inch tire's. Can not wait to see what the DR's will do.
In responce to the super charged Mustang, with 550 hp. It will be a quick car, but wait till somebody show up with a twin turbo 370 z.
I will bet on the z to be faster.
Slightly more impressive, but a 1.97 60' still isnt much to write home about on a well-prepped track. I figure you might cut a 1.6-1.7 with the DR's, and you'll probably run a high 12.5XX, assuming you dont blow the pumpkin to pieces :)

m4a1mustang 01-07-2010 12:03 PM
Comparing modded cars is typically a waste of time because any car can be modded to go fast.

Lug 01-07-2010 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 356151)
Comparing modded cars is typically a waste of time because any car can be modded to go fast.
race me....chicken. :mad:






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NYBladeZ 01-19-2010 10:37 AM
keeping the conversation to stock cars isn't realistic. Majority of Mustang owners have the stock exhausts off before putting the first 20 miles on the car. However I think you are all overlooking the fact that it is a 5.0 aluminum block. The new shelby350 added a roots blower and they are "in the realm of 500hp" which is only about 88hp over stock. Ford understands that they can't put an engine in the GT that will out power their GT500 for a fraction of the price, Nissan puts forth no such limitations. They aren't competing with other cars in their lineup but rather cost, safety, and engineering standards.

cashbred 09-23-2010 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mag350Z (Post 353078)
a GT 500 will crush a 370Z, so will the 2011 GT
haha sorry to say but my z when it was stock never lost to my brothers 2011 ford 5.0 maybe you just have a lemon or mine is a freak who knows

MightyBobo 09-23-2010 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cashbred (Post 733209)
haha sorry to say but my z when it was stock never lost to my brothers 2011 ford 5.0 maybe you just have a lemon or mine is a freak who knows
Or your brother is a terrible driver...the 5.0 is a sick setup.

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 08:24 AM
Way to revive a dead thread. :tup:

But yeah, assuming the 5.0 will hook it's in another league in terms of acceleration.

MightyBobo 09-23-2010 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 733256)
way to revive a dead thread. :tup:

But yeah, assuming the 5.0 will hook it's in another league in terms of acceleration.
zombie thread returns from the dead

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 733260)
zombie thread returns from the dead
double rainbow!

Lug 09-23-2010 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 733266)
double rainbow!
Double Tap!!! (rule 4!) :eek:

shadoquad 09-23-2010 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 733554)
Double Tap!!! (rule 4!) :eek:
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Elia Cid 09-23-2010 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 356169)
http://fvntsw.blu.livefilestore.com/...n_0.jpg?psid=1

Hey Lug, I'll do the driving, :driving: Ok!

Zsteve 09-23-2010 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 356169)
thats not a rocket, its a fart can.

shabarivas 09-23-2010 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mag350Z (Post 353081)
in a straight line I mean
the 370Z will run away from both on a track
Ha ha im sure you like to believe that but the 2011 GT will have its way on any track where you can average near triple digit speeds...

roplusbee 09-23-2010 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 733582)
Ha ha im sure you like to believe that but the 2011 GT will have its way on any track where you can average near triple digit speeds...
That sounds like a High Speed Ring type course. On a road course like Tsukuba or Leguna Seca would test the limits of the vehicle (and driver). I doubt you coud average near 3 digit speeds on those courses. Just another point of view to consider when compairing vehicles...........

The GT is no slouch in anyway, but I am still not so confident in it's "improved" suspension setup.

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 01:06 PM
The GT would beat the 370Z on anything bigger than than auto-x course. This car is quite insane.

shabarivas 09-23-2010 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 733613)
That sounds like a High Speed Ring type course. On a road course like Tsukuba or Leguna Seca would test the limits of the vehicle (and driver). I doubt you coud average near 3 digit speeds on those courses. Just another point of view to consider when compairing vehicles...........

The GT is no slouch in anyway, but I am still not so confident in it's "improved" suspension setup.
Laguna Seca? Are you serious? The Z would not stand a chance against the 2011 GT - You must not have been @ Seca much.

Tsukuba - would be close between the two perhaps but have you looked @ seca? there are some serious 80 -> 110 sprints where we will loose a LOT of time to the stang. A roughly average speed of about 80 mph (for the track) will not help us at all...

You are comparing different animals - what the stang looses in the turns it will MORE than make up for in the straights.

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 01:12 PM
I could see Tsukuba being close, but the GT will still win.

And yes, there'd be no chance for the Z at Laguna.

shadoquad 09-23-2010 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 733628)
I could see Tsukuba being close, but the GT will still win.
I don't know. The Z probably has its best chance at a course like Tsukuba. Would probably get blown out at Laguna Seca, though. And most likely owned anywhere with a nice, long straight. Oval courses are completely out lol.

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 733630)
I don't know. The Z probably has its best chance at a course like Tsukuba. Would probably get blown out at Laguna Seca, though. And most likely owned anywhere with a nice, long straight. Oval courses are completely out lol.
It does have a better shot at Tsukuba, but the GT has more power and better brakes, so it's going to pull the Z from the final hairpin all the way through to turn one, and out of 1 into the next left hand hairpin... There are very few bits of Tsukuba where the Z would be able to make up time as it's really just hairpins connected by short straights.

Like I was saying before. A real road track... GT wins 99% of the time.

Auto X... Z.

shadoquad 09-23-2010 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 733633)
It does have a better shot at Tsukuba, but the GT has more power and better brakes, so it's going to pull the Z from the final hairpin all the way through to turn one, and out of 1 into the next left hand hairpin... There are very few bits of Tsukuba where the Z would be able to make up time as it's really just hairpins connected by short straights.

Like I was saying before. A real road track... GT wins 99% of the time.

Auto X... Z.
Thank God you dress nice, so that I don't have to respect you for your mind. :icon18:

j/k

Actually, now I'd really love to see a Nismo Z (or even sport package) take on a Stang GT (with similar sport trim/packages), and hash it out at Tsukuba! Because I don't think the Stang would win, at least not by a large margin. I think a Z stands a fighting chance.

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 733644)
Thank God you dress nice, so that I don't have to respect you for your mind. :icon18:

j/k

Actually, now I'd really love to see a Nismo Z (or even sport package) take on a Stang GT (with similar sport trim/packages), and hash it out at Tsukuba! Because I don't think the Stang would win, at least not by a large margin. I think a Z stands a fighting chance.
It would not be a large margin but it'd still win. :icon17:

shadoquad 09-23-2010 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 733646)
It would not be a large margin but it'd still win. :icon17:
I'm getting my passport, we're shipping our cars to Japan, and we're duking this out. :bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 733652)
I'm getting my passport, we're shipping our cars to Japan, and we're duking this out. :bowrofl:
:icon17:

Not fair, though, since you have base brakes.

shadoquad 09-23-2010 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 733658)
:icon17:

Not fair, though, since you have base brakes.
I make no excuses. :bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 01:31 PM
Well, I'm going to give you a head start and spin you out NASCAR style.

Bump 'n run!!!!!!!!

shabarivas 09-23-2010 01:58 PM
LOL.... I dont get why people get so up in arms about their car being the FASTEST EVER!!! Seriously - every year there will be a newer faster and better car in the market. The competition is what keeps the HP up as years go by.

I got my Z for one reason - driving experience - I mean yes she is fast and handles amazingly - but you have to be honest withyoursef and give credit where credit is due. The new stang is one bad MFer - honestly if I had an extra 30k lying around it would be spent on a stang. Ford has done AMAZING things in the last few years and I look forward to Nissan responding.

Dont get me wrong - I will eventually SC my Z and make up for that difference - but that debate will go on for ever - what if he SC's his 2011 GT lol

theDreamer 09-23-2010 02:00 PM
But my car is faster, done! :p

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 733734)
LOL.... I dont get why people get so up in arms about their car being the FASTEST EVER!!! Seriously - every year there will be a newer faster and better car in the market. The competition is what keeps the HP up as years go by.

I got my Z for one reason - driving experience - I mean yes she is fast and handles amazingly - but you have to be honest withyoursef and give credit where credit is due. The new stang is one bad MFer - honestly if I had an extra 30k lying around it would be spent on a stang. Ford has done AMAZING things in the last few years and I look forward to Nissan responding.

Dont get me wrong - I will eventually SC my Z and make up for that difference - but that debate will go on for ever - what if he SC's his 2011 GT lol
:icon17:

Well if you want to get an idea of a basic SC and suspension upgrade on the 5.0, look at the Shelby GT350 (don't actually LOOK at it because it's hideous, but check the numbers.) It uses Ford Racing's stage 1 blower (525hp) and does 0-60 in 3.7, 1/4 in 12.0 @ 122, and corners at 1.05G. :yum:

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 733739)
But my butt is more delicious, done! :p
:yum:

shadoquad 09-23-2010 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 733734)
LOL.... I dont get why people get so up in arms about their car being the FASTEST EVER!!! Seriously - every year there will be a newer faster and better car in the market. The competition is what keeps the HP up as years go by.

I got my Z for one reason - driving experience - I mean yes she is fast and handles amazingly - but you have to be honest withyoursef and give credit where credit is due. The new stang is one bad MFer - honestly if I had an extra 30k lying around it would be spent on a stang. Ford has done AMAZING things in the last few years and I look forward to Nissan responding.

Dont get me wrong - I will eventually SC my Z and make up for that difference - but that debate will go on for ever - what if he SC's his 2011 GT lol
:iagree: very much, except even now I'd choose the Z over the Stang for personal prejudices. But I'm not threatened by the next gen Hyundai GenCoupe or this Stang or any other. Because I love my car. I can admit that there are faster cars out there, even better looking ones. It doesn't diminish what I feel for my driveway toy.

m4a1mustang 09-23-2010 02:03 PM
Trust me I love(d) my Z and want to get one soon (roadster, and as a compliment to the Mustang), but I just love Mustangs, torque, and back seats.

370zsport09 09-23-2010 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ZYUL8R (Post 353411)
Eh..car and driver wrecked the nismo Z in that comparo...makes me wonder. I don't know what they were doing, i hope they were not trying to push the Z harder and harder to try and make a better time because...darn the hyundai wasn't too far away!


As far as walking away from a GT500 in a straight line with the Z....That would never happen with anybody at least average in the GT500. My friends Mach 1 can keep up with me and he only has intake and exhaust a programmer and crappy tires. Of course hes a good driver, but still his car is no GT500.

As far as lap times go, im not surprised at the 370z's performance now after owning the car for 10 months...its been bittersweet. Our stock tires need help thats for sure. The Z does not feel connected to the road at all unless you are pushing it hard (which makes it more comfy though when you are cruising) , but once you do that you need an oil cooler. Now i have yet to try different tires, and brake pads on the Z so i havent given up on it yet, better tires usually change a whole lot on the way a car feels...after all they are where the rubber meets the road.
- Hyundai Genesis might be not that far behind....run that car hard and 20,000 miles later....guarantee it will lose horsepower and torque...transmission they may last but engine...they sound like poo poo after they've been broken in...tik tik ping ping vrooom :P

Zsteve 09-23-2010 03:24 PM
and Im coming with my new gs vette.





if I can work the deal. trying to get a 2011 GS 2LT for 49K @ 2.99%

shadoquad 09-23-2010 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 734030)
and Im coming with my new gs vette.
if I can work the deal. trying to get a 2011 GS 2LT for 49K @ 2.99%
:eek: I'll, um... I'll race you... uh... Where could I win? Perhaps in a snowstorm?!

Zsteve 09-23-2010 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 734036)
:eek: I'll, um... I'll race you... uh... Where could I win? Perhaps in a snowstorm?!
I race anything cuz its all about the fun of it more than the I won.






On a track of course.





or a very long driveway

ProfessorDave 09-23-2010 04:15 PM
I read these Z vs. X threads initially with enthusiasm because I learn interesting things about other nice cars. But the inevitable focus on the negative (of both the Z and the comparison cars) always drives me out, back to the Motivational Posters thread in the Premium area.

Is it just me?

optiontrader 09-23-2010 11:43 PM
^^^ I'm with you on that one...

+1 rep for spearfish - GREAT review. We need more like them!

DIGItonium 09-24-2010 07:24 AM
I park next to one at work... the GT500 with stock exhaust is scary quiet.


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