They can actually last much longer than that depending on the kind of driving done. If you do mostly do highway driving and keep you foot out of it you can actually get about 25 to 30K out of them. I had one set of tires on my 03 Cobra Terminator that everyone else was only getting between 15 and 20K on. I actually had mine on all the way to 40+K with still reasonable tread remaining. And it was my daily driver!

If you do alot of start and stop city driving and being heavy on the pedal they will last to about or near what they are rated to.

Same goes with brakes as well. everyone else was replacing their Cobra Terminator OEM brakes at 20K and I didn't have to replace my OEM brakes until 52K. I am a firm believer in jake braking and brake pumping. As a result I end up only having to replace the brakes every 50K miles on any vehicle I own.

With the current Mustang the V6 is an econo car first. The Mustang V8 GT is comparable engine wise, but not the GT500.

I just looked up the Mustang and just realized that it is SC, with 540 hp. There no comparison, Even with the GTM SC, if you put the same bolt ons, tires, gears, ecu mods. The mustang will thrash the 370 z at the track. Go the to Stegmister Mustang SC site and his mustang is almost making 600rwhp. (super snake modification kit).
Nice car,

Bingo about the Mustang V8 GT. That is the correct comparison to a 370Z. Has nothing to do with number of cylinders...its the overall power and torque ratings that need to be compared.

Nice review of the GT500. It was very informative and well worded.

Thats what an extra couple of cyls can do for you. Every year or so is gonna be a race for more HP by the car companies. The mustang comes in so many variations that they can do a big V8 SC for power and not worry about MPG with it cuz they other model stangs that can do that if thats what you want. Put a big V8 and SC in the Z and your right there with them in power and crapy MPG. Id like to see a V8 Z or a V6 SC Z, 2 variations would be nice.

Your so right, I have a gtm 4.2 stroker with wolf 850 tt bb's with a speed force built 5 AT. Its not in the 2003 z yet. That the car in the picture below. It has all the toys, waiting to be installed. The picture is a burn out with a stillen SC, 5 AT with slicks and line lock.
MY GTM 350 z will handle the mustang no problems. I just have to save more money to put it together.

Its always about the money. If I had more I would have got the Z w/sport/touring and have some for the nice SC. As it is the SCs will probably be out of my range for now as I am taking a new job in Ft. Bliss, TX that starts off with less money than I was making but I will advance quicker. Right now Im unemployed for the last 2 weeks as the contract I was working under is done and didnt get renewed. So now I will be Civil Service (federal) at Bliss.

Thanks, Dreamer. There are enough engine configurations in Mustangs to confuse an old man like me! Although there are many variables involved (hp, torque, MT vs AT, ability of the driver, tires, etc.), I'm confused when "sixes" are compared to "eights", MTs to ATs, and so on. Thanks again.

You won't get crappy HP if you aren't putting your foot into it every 5 seconds. When I drove my 03 Mustang Cobra on the highway the ECU was reporting 27 MPG. This was with a tune of course using 93 octain fuel and the A/F ratio at the sweetspot. Blowers don't eat fuel when they are spinning at cruise.

Lets not forget that it also weighs 4,000lbs, power to weight ratio is huge.

Hey bro, before you get here, lemme extend a cordial invitation to come ride with us, we have a Z club here and usually get a pretty big turnout.

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when do you get here btw?

Sounds good, there isnt anything here for Z clubs at all, kinda boring. Should be there in a couple of weeks but I will be coming back to GA for some training on and off.

Hey J,

I clarified in a later post that I was merely writing a review of the GT500 and likened it to the Z since that's what I have. While I changed the title a bit in the original post, it didn't update in the forum category list. So, it still says "GT500 VS 370Z". Of the current 'stangs, the GT500 is the only one that really competes/beats the 370Z right now anyway.

The Shelby GT (not the GT500) can compete with a 370Z both in their stock configuration. Most of the time both cars can win any given 1/4 run from a dig.

In a nslalom type course believe it or not the Shelby GT will out handle the 370Z as it can do the curves and banks better. Again though I think it is ONLY because the stock tires on the Shelby GT are better than on the stock 370Z Touring+Sport tires.

The Shelby GT (not just the GT500) can compete with a 370Z both in their stock configuration. Most of the time both cars can win any given 1/4 run from a dig.

In a slalom type course believe it or not the Shelby GT will out handle the 370Z as it can do the curves and banks better. Again though I think it is ONLY because the stock tires on the Shelby GT are better than on the stock 370Z Touring+Sport tires.

Solid axle :thumbsdown:


And the V-8 rumble is cool and all but I would rather listen to my Z which is almost on par with a Ferrari at this point.

Your car's a badass, im actually building towards the same setup, need that ferrari sound :tup:

370z versus a gt500? We might as well start comparing the 370 to kites, or hot sauce, or yoga balls.
What I'm saying is, they are a little far apart to bother comparing.

Here is my take on this subject: The current GTs do 0 60 in about 5.2 and the Z in about 4.7. Now both of those times needs a very good driver, good tires and a well preped road to get those times. Most of us are doing around 5 secs so I would think the GT is doing around 5.5 on the average. With the GT being able do do that respectable time the V8 GT was not meant to be a MPG car, its just getting past its prime as our car will be in a year or two when the other guys start making theirs faster, like the 2011 GT. So we will probably see something that improves the Z in a couple of years. I kill GTs around here with the little zoom zoom we do. The GT500 IMO is not in our catagory, its a little above it right now. I was killing GTs in my chipped 2.0T 4 cyl. I will never own a mustang as they are too common, well maybe a Saleen.

Saleen! Oh gag me. Saleens are for greasy Persians or trailer bro's with 3 cell phones, gold chains and that eternal dumbsh*t look on their face. If you're going to own any sh!tstang, at least make it a Roush. You're right about one thing, Mustangs are way too common.

The problem with the gts is they come with a very tall gear. A common mod is to swap the 3.31s for 4.10s. Instant 12 second passes with that mod. The 4.6 craves as much gear as you can throw at it.

And for what its worth, the "track pack" (i.e. sport package) gts with the 3.55 gear have been tested to run 4.9 0-60 with a low 13 quarter, essentially even with a 370.

Mod for mod the gt will beat the 370 in a straight line as well. Its just more suited for drag racing so it has an advantage there. The Z is definitely still a contender, though. I think our straight line performance really surprises a lot of people. The same can be said of the mustang on a road course. I don't care how much you hate live axles, a well driven Mustang is likely to surprise the hell out of you. I'm sure a lot of people here wouldn't be able to shake a track pack gt at VIR, just like a lot of Mustang guys wouldn't be able to pull a Z in the quarter if its driven by one of our finest.

Bottom line is they are both good cars whether anyone wants to admit it or not. As someone who has owned both, the Z is very comparable to a Mustang. In fact, my Z feels very much like my old Mustang... the engines drive EXACTLY the same... they feel so similar its scary. They even sound alike!

The real funny thing to is that the rear end of the Z with its irs feels very similar to themustang over rough surfaces...

The problem with the gts is they come with a very tall gear. A common mod is to swap the 3.31s for 4.10s. Instant 12 second passes with that mod. The 4.6 craves as much gear as you can throw at it.

And for what its worth, the "track pack" (i.e. sport package) gts with the 3.55 gear have been tested to run 4.9 0-60 with a low 13 quarter, essentially even with a 370.

Mod for mod the gt will beat the 370 in a straight line as well. Its just more suited for drag racing so it has an advantage there. The Z is definitely still a contender, though. I think our straight line performance really surprises a lot of people. The same can be said of the mustang on a road course. I don't care how much you hate live axles, a well driven Mustang is likely to surprise the hell out of you. I'm sure a lot of people here wouldn't be able to shake a track pack gt at VIR, just like a lot of Mustang guys wouldn't be able to pull a Z in the quarter if its driven by one of our finest.

Bottom line is they are both good cars whether anyone wants to admit it or not. As someone who has owned both, the Z is very comparable to a Mustang. In fact, my Z feels very much like my old Mustang... the engines drive EXACTLY the same... they feel so similar its scary. They even sound alike!

The real funny thing to is that the rear end of the Z with its irs feels very similar to themustang over rough surfaces...

Wow.

Haha.. :rofl2:

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It's a strong possibility that he drives an M3 also. :icon23:

Lmfao. Saleens are sort of a joke in the mustang world.... the attention seeking dbags either bought a saleen or bought the kit and graphics. Roush and Steeda are where its at.

When compared head to head on the same track the current Mustang and 370Z run within .1 of each other in both 0-60 and Quarter mile. The delivery and feel are totally different, but the times are what they are. Next year's Mustang is gonna add about 100 ponies to the mix, Z won't be anywhere near it at the track unless Ford screws the pooch and adds a megashiteton of weight like The Camaro and Challenger have. Z will be better at short track stuff like autocross but the track is out againt a 2011 Mustang without FI. I'll still take a 370Z over the new mustang any day of the week, but lets not kid ourselves about what each is good at.

drove my friends 08 gt500 a couple of months ago. very solid car but very hard to drive. i never felt like i had full control of the car and i'm a decent driver. i was impressed with the overall quality in and out. i personally wouldn't own one but i can see how it appeals to others.

rofl!! :rofl2:

Well !!! I'm finally glad SOMEONE mentioned Roush. Was beginning to wonder if Shelby was the only aftermarket build that was going to be mentioned here. And, as a follower of 'Stangs for some time, I thought the Roush chassis was almost always considered better in handling than Shelby.

Outdated a little bit but...and since a Lotus was mentioned... (LOL)...

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Is that what you saw or are reading. The 09 GT should only run around 5.1 to 60 from what I can find, now I havent been to a track to see just research. All the car companies are gonna up thier power every few yrs to keep up with the Jones, so dont be surprised to see the Z (and other cars) up HP in a couple of yrs too, its a cycle. A neighbor a fews houses down has a Saleen and it looks pretty cool and they are not Persians or Bling Bling guys, just mustang nuts. Most regular GTs here are driven by females so the guys have to get the GT500s or Saleens, etc to not be driving a girls car now.

Well, the homophobic pussys !!! LOL

Edmunds (I know, not the best butat least it was head to head) did a recent test where they were identical plus if you do a dragtimes compare between stock 2010 Mustangs and 370Z they are a mixed bag except for one really quick 370Z. Most fall in the 13.3 to 13.7 range. It makes since because the 370Z has a few more ponies and a little less weight but the 'stang has gobs more torque. I'd expect the 370Z to pull away on the top end a bit. Next year the 'stang is a total game changer on any straight line stuff if the weight stays in control. Camaros and Challengers are gonna get their asses handed to them. I know what you mean by upping HP through the cycle, but we're talking 100 HP in one fell swoop. That kinda bump isn't what you normally see in the same model.


EDIT: I just realized you're talking about a 2009 Mustang. I was talking about the current one which is a noticeable improvement over the older model.

I think Im a little confused, the GT is getting a 100 HP increase? I thought it was only going from 300 to 315 which would put it in the 370 Z range then. Or is the GT500 getting the 100 HP?

The new 5.0L is going to be 412HP at the crank (per Ford), but not sure on the torque yet.
It will be putting down big numbers but again, power to weight is a huge factor. It should be able to take on the Camaro SS in the straight fine, but it will be close and depend on all those little factors.

So for right now their 2010 includes a V6 4.0 210hp and V8 4.6 315hp. And another version is to come out with a 5.0 412hp as a 2010 car? Is it going to be just a GT or a GT500 or something like that? If thier 4.6 is only getting 315hp how are they going to get another 100 hp from .4 liters? Turbo or SC?

The Z needs another version with mo power but I guess they dont sell enough to justify it.

2010 - updated body and slight HP change
2011 - slight body change (mainly the V6) and 5.0L

I am not sure why Ford did what they did, maybe to make more money so people have to upgrade from a 2010 to a 2011 just for the new engine, who knows. Not sure how they are getting 100 more HP from just .4, but the 5.0L has been in long development and since the Camaro SS finally came out that put fire under Ford to make something that could beat the SS without a Turbo or SC.

Well just got some info from a co-worker:
~Variable valve timing on both cams
~4 valves per cylinder
~7,000 RPM limiter (This is a huge step for Ford)
~Bigger displacement

Those combined can give some good changes, also this is just at the crank, who knows how well it will do on a dyno.

Not to mention Ford is currently saying they are hoping to keep weight down to around 3500lbs like the current GT mustang is. Current weight on the GT is 3533. Even if Ford adds a few pounds and ends up with a 3600lbs car with 412hp it's going to move pretty well. Not to mention it already corners pretty damn well for a muscle car with the track pack.

I just wonder if with all these 400hp 30k cars running around if Nissan is going to step it up or not. I love my Z but I hate to think it's already outdated in performance. Sure it out corners just about any other car in it's price but a little more power would be very nice. Give us our turbos back Nissan

Turbo is going to stay with the GT-R for now, unless people want to drop 50k on a Z.
I believe the current weight of the 5.0L is just under 3600 (so they can say about 3500), but all this currently is just what Ford is saying.