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-   Nissan 370Z General Discussions (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/)
-   -   Car and Driver Crashes a Nismo 370Z (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/12692-car-driver-crashes-nismo-370z.html)

MightyBobo 12-28-2009 06:47 PM
I dont disagree at all. I also feel that the accusations of crappy driving seem a bit unfounded, and C&D has a lot of credibility on the line, so if they make a claim like that and PUBLISH it, you'd think they'd be confident enough to back their story up. Ive seen them fail before, and they admitted fault...why be any different this time?

370Zsteve 12-28-2009 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 346107)
I dont disagree at all. I also feel that the accusations of crappy driving seem a bit unfounded, and C&D has a lot of credibility on the line, so if they make a claim like that and PUBLISH it, you'd think they'd be confident enough to back their story up. Ive seen them fail before, and they admitted fault...why be any different this time?
The whole thing just stinks. Someone in Nissan Mktg Dept needs hiz head to roll :eekdance:

nicknick 12-28-2009 07:02 PM
Nissan makes a sports car, the 370z, great car and compares it to the Cayman. Two problems though; the Zed overheats on the track and its brakes fail on the track whereas the Cayman does not overheat and its brakes hold up. nissan, WTF is wrong with you? For a little extra added to the purchase price, you could have eliminated all this unnecassary image affecting problems. Yes some heads in the Nissan line up should roll.

MightyBobo 12-28-2009 07:05 PM
That sub-30K price point was what was wrong with them lol.

ricky bobby 12-28-2009 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 346125)
Nissan makes a sports car, the 370z, great car and compares it to the Cayman. Two problems though; the Zed overheats on the track and its brakes fail on the track whereas the Cayman does not overheat and its brakes hold up. nissan, WTF is wrong with you? For a little extra added to the purchase price, you could have eliminated all this unnecassary image affecting problems. Yes some heads in the Nissan line up should roll.
:iagree::shakes head::iagree:

theDreamer 12-28-2009 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 346118)
The whole thing just stinks. Someone in Nissan Mktg Dept needs hiz head to roll :eekdance:
Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.

ricky bobby 12-28-2009 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 346143)
Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.
i have oil temp issues on the street and my rotors are purple:shakes head:, never been on the track

pulpz 12-28-2009 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 343208)
that'd be pretty sad if that was the case and they blamed it on the brakes...

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pulpz 12-28-2009 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 346143)
Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.
To me not a big deal to track prep my car. But I assumed the Sport Brakes would be track ready (the 370Z equivalent to the 350Z Track Brembos). I really assumed this would be the case, considering that Nissan didn't make any changes to the Sport Brake setup for the Nismo.

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 346104)
All well and good, but the 370Z was still the only car that had this problem. I'm just sayin'...every other car seems to have made it through to the end. (Just finished reading the entire article, came in the mail today)
I agree. Doesn't discredit the Z in my mind, but it is disappointing and embarrassing knowing the Nismo 370Z cant hang with a stock Mustang after a few laps on the track.

kannibul 12-28-2009 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 346143)
Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.
Agreed, and AFAIK, Porsche doesn't advertise their cars as track queens.

In terms of street use, it hangs with the big boys quite well.

WICKED_GRIN 12-28-2009 08:20 PM
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MightyBobo 12-28-2009 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 346276)
Carbotech XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.


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Ya rly?

Mag350Z 12-28-2009 09:24 PM
GTR in same Car and Driver Issue
 
Also in the same issue there is a small piece on the 2010 GTR. The article discusses the changes made to launch control for 2010. According to Car and Driver the GTR is now 0.8 seconds slower to 60 due to changes in the launch control program.

I also feel disappointed in Nissan. The GTR and 370Z are marketed as Porsche fighters for a fraction of the cost, but I don't read about 911 transmissions self destrucing after using launch control, or Caymans over heating or losing braking power.

From the rev up motor oil consumption to GTR transmissions, to 370 overheating problems it seems that Nissan may be sacrificing good engineering in order to meet pricing goals.

Mag350Z 12-28-2009 09:30 PM
actually it was 0.6 seconds slower to 60, not 0.8

RCZ 12-28-2009 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 346276)
Carbotech XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.


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They will be fine on the road. That disclaimer is just a heads up that the pads are dusty and noisy. All track pads are dusty and noisy though so there is no alternative.

The only thing you can do is get street pads for when you aren't on the track (keep the stockers) and then swap them out the night before you go to the track...takes about 45 minutes for the average homo sapien to swap pads on this car.

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Originally Posted by Mag350Z (Post 346402)
Also in the same issue there is a small piece on the 2010 GTR. The article discusses the changes made to launch control for 2010. According to Car and Driver the GTR is now 0.8 seconds slower to 60 due to changes in the launch control program.

I also feel disappointed in Nissan. The GTR and 370Z are marketed as Porsche fighters for a fraction of the cost, but I don't read about 911 transmissions self destrucing after using launch control, or Caymans over heating or losing braking power.

From the rev up motor oil consumption to GTR transmissions, to 370 overheating problems it seems that Nissan may be sacrificing good engineering in order to meet pricing goals.
You can't expect a car to cost 20k less and perform the same. Don't be disappointed, get pads and an oil cooler ( $1000 installed) and then you can go tool on those caymans all day long.


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