The stock pads do not work on the track, many have tried and have had trouble, some have come close to disaster. When the pads get too hot the ABS freaks out and makes the car very unsafe, absolutely feels like a brake system failure to the driver.

So what is the solution?

Easy, replace with dedicated track pads.

I haven't seen any around besides the Nismo pads unless I'm looking in the wrong places.

I was on track a while ago when the brakes failed on me. If I had not had a run off area, I would have crashed the car.

Its the pads...

Carbotech. I went with XP10 front, XP8 rear's as per RCZ's recommendation (and many others), and for a beginner they felt amazing. You need nothing more w/ the stock brake setup other than better brake fluid.

Thanks +rep. I've used ATE Super Blue in the past and it worked great, do you recommend the same?

We have Carbotechs in stock. It's pretty much all we use at the track. It's also rotor and street friendly as well, unlike many race pads.

My point about the brake failure, is that even a semi-experienced amateur driver would recognize quickly that the OEM pad is not suited for track use, and adjust his driving accordingly. Blaming the brake pad or braking system is a poor excuse, especially for a professional magazine.

Dont use Super Blue... get Motul RBF600, its a little more, but I have had much much better experiences with the motul than the ATE...

Shariff: My stock pads were working fine on track until I started adding a little pace. They let go suddenly and the car would not stop. It was so sudden that it caught me by surprise. I wasn't even going 90% on the car yet either... its pathetic.

Could you PM me price for Motul RBF600 + XP10 + XP8?

However, C&D claims that there was no warning prior to the complete brake system failure (although that's pretty hard to believe).

Same here please.

80% of the accidents are created by a human error, 10% mechanical failure and 10% Enviromental.

I will have to get that issue to read about that crash.

If this is the case, then I would have to agree that Nissan has to re-evaluate the pads in the Nismo and Sport package. I think they both (at least the Nismo) should be track ready - including break pads and fluid.

So why isn't this an issue with any other car they tested? Does every other manufacturer deliver track prepped cars for these tests? Or is C&D truly correct in their assessment of how dramatic the onset and severity of the brake fade occurrence with stock pads?

Yeah, the stock pads are just about every OEM are garbage for track use. At best they feel wooden. The guy driving for this magazine I assume is a pro, or least very experienced. It was a rookie mistake to make, IMHO.

Pricing coming guys! :)

please add me to the pricing list....is it a concensus that going to the track with stock pads is asking for trouble or are we over reacting?

So now to go to the track:
Oil Cooler
Brake pads

Anything else? (for someone that hasn't gone before...so let's not get too crazy) :)


thanks