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feelzpwr91 12-23-2009 01:04 AM

Our paint sucks compared to euro
 
hey every one, i dont know if any ones noticed but our paint sucks compared to euro to euros! i mean im a professional detailer and it looks good and all, but the quality and life of the paint is just terrible

j.arnaldo 12-23-2009 07:58 AM

Aha. One area where Nissan needs to do some improvements, on an otherwise great Sports car.

kannibul 12-23-2009 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by feelzpwr91 (Post 338500)
hey every one, i dont know if any ones noticed but our paint sucks compared to euro to euros! i mean im a professional detailer and it looks good and all, but the quality and life of the paint is just terrible

Life of the paint? What, did you burn through it or something?

DooDooBrown 12-23-2009 08:22 AM

A trade I am willing to take.... That is why it is important to keep your Z clean and waxed at all times. While they may have better paint, have you seen how much MORE it costs them??

Zsteve 12-23-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown (Post 338649)
A trade I am willing to take.... That is why it is important to keep your Z clean and waxed at all times. While they may have better paint, have you seen how much MORE it costs them??

:iagree: Keep a good coat of wax and it should do fine. Chips are gonna happen but a good detailer can fix them like new.

OldGuy 12-23-2009 08:41 AM

I'm going to have to spring for Xpel clear bra for this reason. That will help, at least on some of the most vulnerable areas.

kannibul 12-23-2009 09:20 AM

I've seen paint on a Ferrari F430 - car looked amazing, but upon close inspection...orange peel!

I asked the detailer that was showing me his work - he said it's common practice, and a sign of THIN paint.

Maybe it's a golf-ball approach... ;)


That said, sure the paint chips easy, so do other cars. I'll repaint my car when it gets bad enough, and call it a day. Will it hurt the value of the car if it's repainted - sure...but IMO, a chipped up car will be more value-hurt. Even then, I don't intend to sell this car anytime soon...

imag 12-23-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 338721)
I've seen paint on a Ferrari F430 - car looked amazing, but upon close inspection...orange peel!

I asked the detailer that was showing me his work - he said it's common practice, and a sign of THIN paint.

Maybe it's a golf-ball approach... ;)


That said, sure the paint chips easy, so do other cars. I'll repaint my car when it gets bad enough, and call it a day. Will it hurt the value of the car if it's repainted - sure...but IMO, a chipped up car will be more value-hurt. Even then, I don't intend to sell this car anytime soon...

Wow - a Ferrari should not have orange peel. This is one of those corners they can get away with cutting because they're Ferrari, and none of their owners will second guess them.

Aston may not make the fastest cars, but they know how to do paint :tup:

kannibul 12-23-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by imag (Post 338775)
Wow - a Ferrari should not have orange peel. This is one of those corners they can get away with cutting because they're Ferrari, and none of their owners will second guess them.

Aston may not make the fastest cars, but they know how to do paint :tup:

According to the detailer, it's pretty common on a lot of high-end cars...as he said, it's a symptom of thin paint....which thin paint weighs less :)

Blown32 12-23-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 338657)
:iagree: Keep a good coat of wax and it should do fine. Chips are gonna happen but a good detailer can fix them like new.

How is a good detailer going to make chips look like new?Other then dabs of touch up and thats noticable?

FuszNissan 12-23-2009 10:19 AM

Have any of you seen there paint process. It's truly amazing and light years ahead of what they did 4 years ago.

370Zsteve 12-23-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 338721)
I've seen paint on a Ferrari F430 - car looked amazing, but upon close inspection...orange peel!

I asked the detailer that was showing me his work - he said it's common practice, and a sign of THIN paint.

Maybe it's a golf-ball approach... ;)


That said, sure the paint chips easy, so do other cars. I'll repaint my car when it gets bad enough, and call it a day. Will it hurt the value of the car if it's repainted - sure...but IMO, a chipped up car will be more value-hurt. Even then, I don't intend to sell this car anytime soon...

Agree with above. Anyone complaining about paint chips on the front of the car does so for two reasons:

1) Never had a low, sloping front-end car before, or

2) Tailgates cars in front of him.

370Zsteve 12-23-2009 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 338797)
Have any of you seen there paint process. It's truly amazing and light years ahead of what they did 4 years ago.

Nah, Lou, it's easier to make up complaints out of thin air. As I've stated in the past, Nissan's factory painting and QC is state-of-the-art. I think the paint on my Z is fabulous.

kenchan 12-23-2009 11:18 AM

yah, they need to incorporate the self healing paint so folks dont need professional detailers any more. :D hahaha.

370Zsteve 12-23-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 338881)
yah, they need to incorporate the self healing paint so folks dont need professional detailers any more. :D hahaha.

I'd give you +! but I'm all repped out. :tup:

fatcat777 12-23-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 338800)
Agree with above. Anyone complaining about paint chips on the front of the car does so for two reasons:

1) Never had a low, sloping front-end car before, or

2) Tailgates cars in front of him.

Ummm no.

my 2005 tundra is not low and sloping and it had chips and a broken windsheild. my 2008 tundra just got a broken windsheild, I wish i was tailgating when it happened cause the rock would not have flown as high up and would have hit my clear bra.

FuszNissan 12-23-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 338881)
yah, they need to incorporate the self healing paint so folks dont need professional detailers any more. :D hahaha.

That is a hell of an idea!

Icib 12-23-2009 12:58 PM

New to this forum so Hi :tiphat:, have been looking around for quite some time before I bought my 370z (I can pick up my baby next monday)

What I was wondering is does the US 370z come with an anti-scratch paint? Here in europe they advertise with it having an anti-scratch paint (whatever this is)


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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown (Post 338649)
While they may have better paint, have you seen how much MORE it costs them??

They do cost quite a bit more over here yes but I doubt thats the reason to give a lesser paint :p
My Z in Belgium costs 45.400 euro (base price 42.200) and I have to pay 5.000 euro tax to get it in trafic. (thats the highest possible tax on a new car and its because its considerd a sports car with alot of power)
However I was born in Holland, a Z there costs 65.000 euro as base price and I now live 1/2 mile away from Holland.

Sorry about going off topic a bit

arcticreaver 12-23-2009 01:37 PM

i think the paint is okay but the clear coat kinda blows.

Slynky 12-23-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 338806)
Nah, Lou, it's easier to make up complaints out of thin air. As I've stated in the past, Nissan's factory painting and QC is state-of-the-art. I think the paint on my Z is fabulous.

Oh, you're just a suck-up.. :roflpuke2:

J/K

FuszNissan 12-23-2009 02:16 PM

:icon18:

feelzpwr91 12-23-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by arcticreaver (Post 339037)
i think the paint is okay but the clear coat kinda blows.

yea our clear coat is among the worst, ive got so many PM's from people about cc blistering already

feelzpwr91 12-23-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 338628)
Life of the paint? What, did you burn through it or something?

ive had 3 Z's in the past and a G........ i know nissan paint and how they turn out after 3-5 years.....the 370's on the same track

nicknick 12-23-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by feelzpwr91 (Post 339178)
ive had 3 Z's in the past and a G........ i know nissan paint and how they turn out after 3-5 years.....the 370's on the same track


What a bunch of crap! I see 350's going back to 2003 and th3ir paint is ok. why are you saying this stuff?

kenchan 12-23-2009 04:34 PM

my G is over 5yrs old (original owner) and it still looks brand new. and no pro-detailer needed. :p

Urbanracer 12-23-2009 04:45 PM

The paint on my 2002 maxima has held up well and still looks great, I've just maintained it with regular washes and waxes.

arcticreaver 12-23-2009 04:49 PM

well if down the line i get a body kit, i'm going to spend top dollar to get this baby painted and clear coated like it should have been.

feelzpwr91 12-23-2009 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 339244)
What a bunch of crap! I see 350's going back to 2003 and th3ir paint is ok. why are you saying this stuff?

exactly there paint is ok........ not the status it should be

cab83_750 12-23-2009 11:53 PM

I have not seen any factory-painted car without orange peel...including euros. The only ones without orange peel are the hand-painted ones!

If you have over $8,000.00 to spend I have someone in Orange County and it will look like glass.

370Zsteve 12-24-2009 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fatcat777 (Post 338943)
Ummm no.

my 2005 tundra is not low and sloping and it had chips and a broken windsheild. my 2008 tundra just got a broken windsheild, I wish i was tailgating when it happened cause the rock would not have flown as high up and would have hit my clear bra.

Ummm, don't tailgate. Maybe someone threw a rock at you.

My 2006 Camry looks fantastic. What dos any of this have to do with paint? It's al nonsense.

370Zsteve 12-24-2009 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Slynky (Post 339072)
Oh, you're just a suck-up.. :roflpuke2:

J/K

:roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

:worship:

nogoodname 12-24-2009 12:07 AM

the paint on the infiniti and probably the same for ur Z's are super thin and chips super easily

370Zsteve 12-24-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 340016)
the paint on the infiniti and probably the same for ur Z's are super thin and chips super easily

:shakes head:

nogoodname 12-24-2009 12:37 AM

My whole front is turning into primer colour lol

370Zsteve 12-24-2009 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 340055)
My whole front is turning into primer colour lol

I just noticed my car's front fascia used to be brilliant silver, now it's chicane yellow. wtf.

xfrgtr 12-24-2009 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by feelzpwr91 (Post 339178)
ive had 3 Z's in the past and a G........ i know nissan paint and how they turn out after 3-5 years.....the 370's on the same track

:rofl2:

Yeah right
Youre 18 years old and already had 3 Z in the past and a G.
Quote:

yea man i got the same thing when i went to buy my Z, given i am 18 years old and they didnt want to let me testdrive ( the manager did, the sales men didnt) so i said ok no problem, i left and went to get my check book came back and went to a different sales man, wrote him the check, shook hands with the manger and left with my brand new 09 touring
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...tml#post288658

370Zsteve 12-24-2009 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xfrgtr (Post 340325)
:rofl2:

Yeah right
Youre 18 years old and already had 3 Z in the past and a G.


http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...tml#post288658

:owned:

IDZRVIT 12-24-2009 07:53 AM

After 19K km's my Z is still perfect - no issues. Mind you it's the Canadian model so it must be better built for our climate :icon18:!!!

Anyway, I had a nasty bug splat that initially would not come off and was quite noticeable in the clearcoat. But after several washes it seems to have disappeared! I recall another forum member commenting on the same thing a few months back. Is this possibly the 'self-healing' paint? Maybe someone can explain this as I assume all Z paints are the same except for the colour of course.

Jones Boy 12-24-2009 08:17 AM

I'm going to hijack this thread! What is the vote on best wax?

fatcat777 12-24-2009 08:55 AM

actually yes it is not very good paint. All paints have become worse and worse trying to make it more "green". The days of lead in paint are gone, but the leaded paint was very very durable.

Also Mercedes uses a higher end paint, its very hard and is really hard to chip, not saying that it won't chip it can just take a lot more of a beating. CeramiClear is the clear coat they use, its a ceramic paint from PPG. All paints are not the same, and they are definitely not all priced the same.


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