Word of Caution

iceman21_23

first and foremost you are doing this on public streets, leave it on the track. i had to reread and look at the picture to see if this was on the track or on the street, since you are using lingo more derivative of track usage. i understand we love our cars and we love to go fast, just practice track moves on the track is all i ask of everyone.

kannibul

The above is a really lame post...I'm sure you don't drive your Z as if you're 90 and can't see past the hood...

Fact is, it's very easy to bust the rear end loose on this car, trying or not. The colder the temps, the easier it is.

G37Sam

With the right tires and VDC on, it's pretty difficult actually.

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kannibul

Actually...even with VDC on, if you stomp the gas while going around 30-40, it'll bust loose and kick the car sideways a bit before VDC kicks in and slaps you back in place. If conditions were right, I could see how VDC's delay would not help the situation enough to avoid an accident.

For example, getting squirrely and hitting a curb...

Pharmacist

yeah but why would any sane and rational person "stomp" on the gas in the middle of a turn? ANY car even a corolla can lose traction and crash with something like that. the point is that losing traction and crashing is hard to do in the z and definitely no easier than on most family cars and suvs, except if the driver is deliberately trying to spin the car or is just plain stupid.

kannibul

I've done that while going straight...Stomp the gas VDC on or off, in cool/cold weather. It will break the rear loose enough to kick the ***-end over a good 6-12", depending on the slope of the road and other factors.

I had it on that time, however, if i had it off and was just playing around, I could have potentially lost control of the vehicle.

As for turning while gassing - did that in a parking lot. Spins like a top. Fun as hell too, but more risky than fun cause something could bite and off you go in a direction that isn't planned (or something could blow up)

Anyhow...

shabarivas

LOL... you must not really drive the Z...

G37Sam

I don't get it, I really don't!

Even the best circuit drivers on this planet would tell you not to STOMP on the gas on an RWD in the middle of the turn, you accelerate before the turn, THEN BRAKE HARD take the apex line while FEATHERING on the throttle in the turn! You start pushing down on the pedal smoothly as you straighten your front wheels.

If you want to take the turn sideways, maybe you shouldn't do it on a turn that's a car wide! There simply is no room for error then! I'm 23 and trust me I love driving crazy but this is just beyond the line man.

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Pharmacist

of course i drive the z, and i drive it hard. but i dont drive like a damn imbecile. stomping on the throttle in the middle of a turn is a recipe for disaster. i turned off vdc and did just that a couple of times in empty streets just to see what would happen, and yeah the results were definitely not good. some idiots it seems like to do that a lot during their "spirited" drives, and when they wrap the car around a tree they complain the z is hard to drive and dangerous :S

GingaBreadMan

It seems like the Z is too much for a lot of drivers. Amazing how many ppl have totaled their cars. I'm glad everyone is ok but WTF. Maybe some of you guys should get a 2004.5 350z. I hear they handle great.

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iceman21_23

no i dont drive it as if i was 90 but i also don't do stupid stuff like taking corners far to fast or try and drift around corners either. cars are meant to be enjoyed no doubt, but to act like an idiot and not only your self in danger but others as well is plain moronic.

anyways to the op I'm glad that your stepping up and realizing that this was an operator error and knowing what you did wrong can only better help you in your future driving experiences

kannibul

OK, so, how do you know what the limits of a car are, without having crossed them?

It's the same thing with a bike, over and over in the safety course (if you take it), you are told not to ride beyond your ability.

Yet, if you don't know you or your vehicle's ability, well, you sometimes get lucky and nothing gets hurt, or something does get hurt...

In my case (with my bike), I ended up riding 80 miles home with a broken wrist (3-pieces), and my wife had a very bruised knee...and my bike, $5600 in damage...bike cost $9500 new!

My fault in that incident - I was riding with a group of people and wasn't comfortable with where I was in the group (in the middle of the pack), and was on an unfamiliar route...misjudged a turn and was on the outside edge, felt like I couldn't get more into the corner due to others around me, so off I went.


With my Z, sure I do stupid crap. Stupid can be fun...really fun. However, I try not to do it where I or my vehicle or other vehicles will get hurt. I've come close enough to know "OK I won't do that again" - in the above example, the OP didn't get that second chance.

I'm sure the OP doesn't think of himself as speed-racer or soemone off of Fast and Furious. He may have used "track terms" but by using them, it was descriptive enough to where I, someone who hasn't gone to a track, would know just about what he's referring to. I have the same problem - too heavy of a foot coming out of corners.

Is that wrong to say it that way or should he have said, I lost control and crashed....then everyone would be asking how...

ricky bobby

i've owned 2 hayabusas and 1 ZX11. Screw it no one got hurt lesson learned. I say get back in that Z or another Z and go through that corner again and own it!

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kannibul

I've rode that trail a few times since then. It helps that I don't remember which bend it was exactly, but that whole first part of the route I get a bit tensed up.

I've not gone that way with my Z yet - but I plan to.