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Left my car running to warming up and let battery to charge up. I got out left both keys in center console to adjust the cardboard under car and car shuts off and locks both keys inside. Note to self don't leave both keys in car lol.... Thank God for AAA!!!

It happens to the best of us :rolleyes:

battery does not charge at idle and it does not heat up the oil it only heats up the water a little bit so ideling is hurting the engine, you are also poisoning yourself with carbon monoxide, dont do it anymore please

If your charging system is in good shape, there will be some charging going on at idle.

The whole engine, including the oil, heats up and will eventually get to operating temp.

Not if your engine is tuned properly. CO emissions are very low and drop to next-to-nothing once the cats warm up. I still wouldn't advise idling in a closed garage but it's not the big problem it was back in The Good Old Days.

It is unnecessary and bad for the car to idle. I start up my car and within 15-20 seconds start to drive. Just don't stomp on the gas, feather it till the oil temp starts to build up.

Pulled car out of garage so fumes are not an issue. Started car cause it was cold here and car is stored there. Started car and let it warm up to operating temps waiting on my battery tender to get here.

No worse than driving it. It just won't warm up quite as fast.

Screw the car....I let mine warm up for my own comfort. Actually I only do that when it is really cold outside. I know it doesn't help the car one bit.

"The study found that if people would just knock off unnecessary idling of this sort, then consumers as a whole would save $5.9 billion per year on fuel costs (based on the cost of fuel in 2008). The saved emissions, the study noted, would be "larger than the emissions from the soda ash, aluminum and limestone industries combined."

Course, if you don't care...

Wasteful? Yes.
Bad for car? No.

it is more worse to cold idle, the oil doesnt get hot enough and is getting contaminated and the car is running rich fuel mixture because it is cold which is contaminating the oil and washing the cilinder walls so the cold oil is not even protecting what it can and then when it trys it gets washed away by the extra fuel, its ok to do it if it makes you happy and you warm to blow the hot air heater on you to make you warm but its not good for the engine, this is fact and cannot be debated

As I'm sitting here laughing at some of the tripe said in this thread as if it's fact, I'm still wondering why the car shut off and locked the doors automatically. Not one person has questioned that yet.

Having one or both fobs in the car while it's idling does not make the car shut off. It doesn't make the doors lock on their own.

Also, even IF that actually happened, why in hell would you have to call AAA to come open the car? Both keys are supposedly in the car. Just hit the button on the car door to unlock...

So no matter what people are discussing in this thread, I'm either calling BS on the OP or calling the OP a troll. Either way, the OP isn't telling us the whole story, or he's just telling us a "story".

ChopsZ just got in before me & I was wondering the same things. For one why in the hell would you have both keys in the car at the same time? BS

This is NOT a fact and can most definitely be debated.

I don't know where you're getting your information from, but you need to stop posting until you get the right information.

If the average clown was to read your post, they would assume:

• The engine floods with fuel at idle
• The oil pump doesn't work at all at idle
• The engine never reaches full operating temp at idle
• The oil gets contaminated with fuel at idle
• Everything you say is "FACT" so it HAS to be true

And again, "more worse"? Really?!

Wow...

While this was true back when cars had carburetors, with FI and engine management of modern engines, not so much. The ECM will make the engine run a little rich when cold, but not wash-the-cylinders rich.

When I bought my Z, the salesman handed my brother the owners manual booklet along with the spare key/fob. My brother placed it in the cubby behind the seat along with the owners manual, and reminded me to not forget it when I got home.

Well, I did forget it, for about 4 days. With the other fob in my pocket the whole time, not once did the car ever act any different, nor did it ever shut off on its own or lock the doors on its own.

And the reason I finally remembered the other fob being in the car is because my brother went walking over to my car, joking that he was going to take it out for a drive and hit the button on the door and it unlocked. My fob that's usually in my pocket was about 70 feet away in the house on the kitchen counter.

Not to mention that modern motor oils (regular or blends or full synthetics) bond and "stick" to all metal components much better than before, so dangerous cold starts are somewhat a thing of the past as well.

He's got a post history full of dumb **** he passes off as gospel. He thinks we should be comfortable with 320 degree oil temps and 10k change intervals too.

I warm my car up to the first or second dot on the water temp gauge. My oil analysis has never shown any fuel contamination or excessive wear.

Behindspace, if the only person who agrees with you is Zeebabar, you've found yourself in the retarded part of town.

I just posted an article. Grow up and stop the labeling and name calling.

pls do not interrupt evolution..

I've installed remote starts for years (including in my 370) never had any issues with any of my customers cars.

You, good sir, are a grade-A retard.

Sell your z. Please. You're too old to be as dumb as you are.

And you are rude and immature and maybe dumb too if you cannot move on to a thread you like instead of getting on to simply be nasty.

Pulled a bone head move (blond moment)
 

Jesus. The Missouri education system really did you a solid, huh? Like Alabama, with worse football and hotter cousins?

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Don't know what it is with Missouri but I live in TN.

Your profile says you live in Missouri.

this forum is rude! i tryed to help but it is rude! i am done and not posting again, bye!

Do I need to warm up my car in winter? - Business Insider

Why would U have BOTH keys inside car?:ugh2:

Haven't updated it. Left MO in June.

BehindSpace, don't let these rude guys drive you away. In a fast car forum, there are uneducated folks who either got beat street racing or have a hard time masturbating so they get on the forums and take their hostility out.

Some claim expertise because they worked in some garage, never understanding that if they had brains they would have been Engineers designing the car.

Because the engineers that made this car had some awesome ideas designing the CSC, steering lock, and the hatch that won't open on the first button press. Companies hire the lowest bidder and they generally aren't too bright.

There's a difference between this forum and, lets say, a 350z board. This board is populated with people who have the financial stability to afford a still rather pricey car but just don't take people's ******** like what is being spouted about remote starts. The 350z board is full of people that are usually in my age group, bought the car third-hand, don't know what the **** they are doing, and act like life is The Fast and the Furious. Natural selection will weed them out eventually.

Finally! The first smart thing you've said on this forum!

And no, this forum isn't rude. We're just tired of people coming on here throwing around a bunch of crap that is in no way accurate or true. You do a half-a$$ Google search on something and just blabber about it on here like you know what you're talking about, but you don't because you didn't take the time to research something properly. It's people like you that make good forums like this one "more worse"... As you say. LOL


Did you actually read what you just posted above? And you're calling us uneducated?!?! :roflpuke2: Now please, do as your friend said he was going to do and... :gtfo2:

Did you even read the article that he posted? Do you want me to post more articles confirming there are no benefits to warming/idling the car when it's cold?

No. The exact opposite. We want you to post 100% less. We lose brain cells every time you squat your tired, arthritic haunches over your large-font keyboard and **** out another useless, content-free waste of server space.

Have you been checked out for dementia? Anyone who keeps buying and selling the same car over and over again might need to go see if their brain has left the building.

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Not that I'm taking any sides here but taking advice on automobiles from Business Insider is like getting firearms advice from Salon. It may SOUND like a good idea in your head but once you say it out loud you realize how retarded it truly is....

Good thing we have an iggy list.... :ugh2:




I had to add another name to it.. :tup: