Nismo vs. Sti

OptionZero

Thats what carfax and an inspection are for? Plus the warranty applies under $30k, so you can still go to your dealership

are you really trying to argue that buying new is better value than used? the only difference is effort, really

I mean, just look at the for sale section here and there are dozens of Z's available in various states of tune at various prices, and just a small snapshop of the market.

If you wanna be lazy and walk into the dealership and drive off, thats your money, its cool.

And back on topic, the STi is even more plentiful since the same drivetrain has been available since around 2004-ish The chassis hasn't changed that much. And you have a hatchback option too!

My point is the same, the used market for the Z and the STi offer a ton of options if you care to look there, you CAN come way ahead of paying for a new Z or Sti. Think about it, thats ******* $40k! Sorry if i'd like to get better value for my money, especially if a chunk of that $40K is going to a dealer.

Danthe370zman

Where did I say anything about value? Go back and re-read what I said. Some people simply are not hurting for money and want a brand new car, are you trying to argue they are wrong for wanting to buy new? Also Carfax and inspection are great tools for buying a used car but can't catch everything.
Not exactly sure why you are being combative and rude about this but the fact you imply people you don't even know are lazy for spending the money they earned shows how immature you are.

ChopsZ

Yeah dude, you're a clown.

If you trust Carfax and/or private sellers ALL of the time, then everything I read on the internet just HAS to be true ALL of the time I guess. LOL

And lazy? Really? Someone who's responsible and works hard for their money so they can support their family, buy nice things for their family and still have money left over to buy a nice new car and nice new expensive parts for it, I wouldn't exactly call lazy.

Like an artist, I like starting with a new blank canvas, and buying a brand new car is just that. I don't have to go and undo a bunch of crap I don't want on that used car, and possibly find out that someone somewhere along the line cut corners and did a hack job on everything, possibly even making the car unsafe. The heck with that noise.

You go ahead and buy your used cars and well... I won't. Because quite frankly, I don't give a rat's a$$ about depreciation and resale value.

And next time, think ahead before shooting off your mouth about people being lazy. I could just as easily say that you're just cheap and lazy and want to buy an already modded car for a song. Mind you, modded to someone else's taste. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

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OptionZero

Your whole premise is that used, clean Z's don't exist. This is an eight year old car. They exist. For some reason you think every used car is a timebomb about to explode or something.

I saved about ten grand off the cost of an equivalent new model, and it has no "hack job mods" to undo. And now I can use that money on coilovers, suspension, and wheels. And my car is still under warranty.

But hey, in your own words, you don't care about depreciation or resale value, so hey, go ahead and justify your purchase. If you can sleep at night, cool!
awesome!
i'm clapping right now

and still laughing at you

OptionZero

Chopz position is pretty extreme, he apparently thinks every used car is a fast and furious castoff.

Its a ridiculous assumption, so i'm gonna treat it like one.

AND! this whole discussion is about STi's and Nismo Z's. My point is that NEITHER car is worth their MSRP, for the reason that clean used examples are available. I don't know how i could have spelled it out more clearly except ChopZ wants to take a pitchfork and light some torches to the used car market.

HE can do whatever he wants with his money that makes him feel good. My point is the same: it's hard to justify $40k for an Sti or Nismo Z.

Anthony@Royal

It's all personal preference man. To some people, the extra money is worth knowing how the car was treated it's WHOLE life. I buy new, but I'm anal when it comes to my car. I personally don't trust people selling their cars or carfax. I would consider buying a used civic or some sort of economy car, but we're talking about sports/performance cars. It's definitely more likely that Z, WRX, EVO, etc. was beaten up by it's previous owner than a civic or corolla. I'd rather not get someone's sloppy seconds...

On topic: These two first stated that the 370z has a 3.5 liter and then thought the "370" stands for 370 hp? Come on