2005 GTO or 2016 Z

Originally Posted by ChopsZ

I'm not talking about the new American V8's, I'm referring to the ones that were available around the time of the OP's 2005 GTO.







All of this is sheer nonsense, and I'm not going to get into a debate about it either.

Any competent driver with a manual and good traction can meet those numbers. It has nothing to do with magazine reviews or an automatic transmission. Hell, there's even multiple threads on this very forum with members posting those numbers in their totally stock MT Z's. All you have to do is do a search.

Now all of a sudden it's an impossible task and those numbers can only be achieved under extremely perfect and/or bazaar conditions?

Oh, and let's not forget the extra 40 lbs or so for the AT as well as the greater drivetrain loss over the MT.

Either way, it boils down to which driver is better, and who cares anyway? Does it really matter that much?

In the end, my facts are NOT "all wrong".

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I'm as competent as it gets. The fastest I pushed my car doing about 20 runs was 13.0 before mods. It was one out of 20.

It matters when you're kicking inaccuracies about BOTH vehicles. I have seat time in both. I have over 5 years in my Z.


All I have to do is search? I've been here since the beginning my man. I know everyone here who has put a credible time down. But anyway....

Some of us don't have to fanboy up and make up numbers to feel pride for our cars... others not so much.

Originally Posted by ChopsZ

Yeah well, just because you've been here since the beginning doesn't prove anything. I'm not a fanboy of anyone or anything, whether you believe that or not. Doesn't really matter to me. I'm just stating what I've read from multiple sources on multiple occasions over the years. Inaccuracies according to who? At this point, it's pretty much a he said/she said thing.

Funny, back in 2010 when people were posting those exact numbers on this forum, they weren't catching any flack about it.

BTW, just because you've owned your Z for 5 years doesn't mean you're the best driver out there for the Z either. But you know what, I don't know anything about you nor do you know anything about me, so let's just leave it at that. Enough of this bickering.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Lol.... the only one bickering is you. I may or may not be the best driver of my Z. But I've pushed it to its limits. Some of my acquaintances here have pushed it to the limits. I'm only speaking on PROVEABLE sources.

But whatever dude. Knock out another 10 paragraphs to say absolutely nothing.

Peace.