2005 GTO or 2016 Z

Cyber370 · 10-06-2016, 04:31 AM

We live in very different times. I don't think there are many modern cars that will become classics including the GTO. Just buy what you like and enjoy it. Don't keep a car just because there may be a very minute possibility that it may go up in value one day. You will usually find yourself on the losing end.

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Larso1 · 10-06-2016, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370

We live in very different times. I don't think there are many modern cars that will become classics including the GTO. Just buy what you like and enjoy it. Don't keep a car just because there may be a very minute possibility that it may go up in value one day. You will usually find yourself on the losing end.

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I agree with this, at least relative to the Holden Monaro-based GTO. I just don't think the intrinsic value is there, being an Australian mfr. It certainly does outperform any original '60's and '70's GTO, but collectors may view it as not a "real" GTO. On a related note, I'm still waiting for my 1960 Edsel Ranger and my 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT to bring all the money at Barrett-Jackson though. Does anyone know Wayne Carini's cell number?......j/k

NTMG · 10-19-2016, 07:56 AM

Found a used 2014 base auto silver with 7500 on her for 22900 good price?

Chuck33079 · 10-19-2016, 08:13 AM

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Found a used 2014 base auto silver with 7500 on her for 22900 good price?

If it doesn't have the sport package, it's not worth buying.

BehindSpace · 10-19-2016, 05:40 PM

save your money and keep the gto! i had a 2014 nismo and it felt slow!!!

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-19-2016, 06:44 PM

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save your money and keep the gto! i had a 2014 nismo and it felt slow!!!

You must not know how to drive then cuz the Z when you shift over 6,000 rpm in feel. Feels stupid fast. Especially when you drive with the windows open. You need an exhaust mod though to add to the drama.

Anyone who says the Z feels slow hasn't driven one properly. And judging by yout car. Which I adore EVO's. The turbos provide a fast feel for you with low effort so it is logical you would say that. But it's slower than a Z unmodded. A GTO is a drivers race on a Z. The EVO loses steam at 90 when the Z is Still in its first wind. Then the Z catches a second win at 135mph. It kinda has a smoother easier feel from 115 to 134. You gotta play with gears in there to make it feel like something. Maybe over 120 the GTO will dominate a Z. But 0-120. The Z can fairly easily keep up at minimum, if not beat the GTO by a car length.

NTMG · 10-19-2016, 07:17 PM

Keep it I will.

NTMG · 11-12-2016, 10:23 PM

H

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-13-2016, 03:37 PM

Does H signify anything outside of bumping a dead thread?

Larso1 · 11-13-2016, 05:04 PM

Just as a side note, don't know if anyone has mentioned that GM is pulling its Holden mfrg division in Australia (Ford and Toyota too). No more Holden brand cars/trucks. May get hard to find parts for the Holden brand?

http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...ay-of-the-dodo

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-14-2016, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Larso1

Just as a side note, don't know if anyone has mentioned that GM is pulling its Holden mfrg division in Australia (Ford and Toyota too). No more Holden brand cars/trucks. May get hard to find parts for the Holden brand?

http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...ay-of-the-dodo

Holden is just GM parts bin. It won't be too bad of an issue

Cyber370 · 11-15-2016, 05:27 AM

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Holden is just GM parts bin. It won't be too bad of an issue

I disagree. Except for use of the GM LS engines, Holden is a separate brand with its own and exclusive models and platforms from which GM borrowed for the NA operations. The Pontiac GTO was basically a rebadged Holden and that is what made it an awesome car.

Then there was the "Utes" which were basically hot-rodded mini-pickup trucks which unfortunately never made it outside Australia. They were almost unbeatable at the track.

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-15-2016, 10:15 AM

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I disagree. Except for use of the GM LS engines, Holden is a separate brand with its own and exclusive models and platforms from which GM borrowed for the NA operations. The Pontiac GTO was basically a rebadged Holden and that is what made it an awesome car.

Then there was the "Utes" which were basically hot-rodded mini-pickup trucks which unfortunately never made it outside Australia. They were almost unbeatable at the track.

Anything you're speaking of that meets that criteria wasn't sold in the states. GTO parts are plentiful. G8 parts are plentiful. Oh yeah.... the camaro5 a rebadged Holden with a Chinese design for a shell.... It's the only three cars that they're talking about that made it to this country Plus they have decent aftermarket support so maintaining a car in the US shouldn't be hard.

NTMG · 11-18-2016, 07:36 AM

How about a 2016 Challenger RT vs 2016 370z?

10-06-2016, 04:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
Cyber370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 679 Drives: 2016 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 19373	We live in very different times. I don't think there are many modern cars that will become classics including the GTO. Just buy what you like and enjoy it. Don't keep a car just because there may be a very minute possibility that it may go up in value one day. You will usually find yourself on the losing end. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "That’s when you know you’ve found somebody special. When you can just shut the fck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.”-Mia (Pulp Fiction)*

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NTMG Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 39 Drives: 2005 GTO Rep Power: 10	Keep it I will. UNKNOWN_370 and Danthe370zman like this.

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10-19-2016, 07:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
NTMG Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 39 Drives: 2005 GTO Rep Power: 10	Found a used 2014 base auto silver with 7500 on her for 22900 good price?

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11-12-2016, 10:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
NTMG Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 39 Drives: 2005 GTO Rep Power: 10	H

11-13-2016, 05:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Larso1 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Pueblo CO Posts: 98 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z T M6 Rep Power: 11	Just as a side note, don't know if anyone has mentioned that GM is pulling its Holden mfrg division in Australia (Ford and Toyota too). No more Holden brand cars/trucks. May get hard to find parts for the Holden brand? http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...ay-of-the-dodo

11-18-2016, 07:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
NTMG Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 39 Drives: 2005 GTO Rep Power: 10	How about a 2016 Challenger RT vs 2016 370z?