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felix0121 09-05-2016 12:33 AM

what if someone wants to drive your Z ??
 
* This thread is not aiming at any specific person in this forum at all. Please I hope there would be no misunderstanding.

Sometimes I've seen those who say they want to drive my Z just because it is a sports car, and I believe any sports car owners including the other Z owners could have had the same experience too.

I personally want to avoid any type of trouble or stress from all hassles and nuisances as possible as I can, therefore I usually respond to them just with my firm poker face and absolute silence instead of directly saying 'no'.

What would you do if someone (especially if a person whom you do not want to permit for driving your Z) asks to you for a temporary test-driving ?


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abdulisraddd 09-05-2016 12:37 AM

All the homies have race cars and I let them drive as they let me drive their cars.


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Ventruck 09-05-2016 12:55 AM

If you don't want them to, don't. You committed tens of thousands of dollars to it. Test drive is more of something you'd offer, not ask for imo — even if it's econoboxes. If they trip, I doubt your friends circle or whatever would be stupid enough to side with him/her.

In the case of more favorable friends I'd only be open to this if they were legit mulling their options. Or, not to be a snob, but if they had something of equivalent performance, yeah a "trade" test drive is probably on the table. Kinda boils down to if they're proficient drivers, and they can absorb something going wrong by their fault. On the other hand, I'd more easily trust a specialty shop mechanic or an established forum member here — obviously because they have the same car and perhaps with a higher end build.

I would hate to have that awkward pit of someone I'm on good terms with owing me big and possibly screwing up both our records but you have to sugarcoat it as "no worries this will get sorted" "it's just a car" and that crap that most people in their right minds don't actually mean unless they've got piles of cash to replace things.

POS VETT 09-05-2016 05:49 AM

Usually those who I allow to drive any of my cars are already "qualified"; the "unqualified" ones usually don't ask me. In the case of the very few cases, I approached it depending on the person and familiarity. Usually the "unqualified" ones are timid in driving and I usually encourage them to drive it closer to the limit.

What is the qualification, you ask? I consider a "qualified" person as one who has competition experience. Any of my autocrossing friends qualifies. From time to time, I have offered and allowed a friend to drive my C6Z06 in an autox when his own Corvette broke down. Another time, a less experienced friend drove my CTS-V and I coached him how to go through my favorite 100-mph on-ramp (downshift to 5th, hold speed at about 100 mph, steer, and never lift!).

felix0121 09-05-2016 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by POS VETT (Post 3548345)
Usually those who I allow to drive any of my cars are already "qualified"; the "unqualified" ones usually don't ask me. In the case of the very few cases, I approached it depending on the person and familiarity. Usually the "unqualified" ones are timid in driving and I usually encourage them to drive it closer to the limit.

What is the qualification, you ask? I consider a "qualified" person as one who has competition experience. Any of my autocrossing friends qualifies. From time to time, I have offered and allowed a friend to drive my C6Z06 in an autox when his own Corvette broke down. Another time, a less experienced friend drove my CTS-V and I coached him how to go through my favorite 100-mph on-ramp (downshift to 5th, hold speed at about 100 mph, steer, and never lift!).

I wanted to know how others would treat with annoying nuisances, especially in that situation of my thread title.

It is good if your cars have been not yet in any trouble, and you can permit only 'qualified' drivers to try yours.

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POS VETT 09-05-2016 06:14 AM

It would be about the same case with my Z (was 350Z and now 370Z), interestingly, nobody has asked to drive any of the Zs. I would be less strict "screening" as the Z has the smallest engine and lowest power compared to my other cars.

If I decided that someone should not drive my car, I just politely say, "sorry, no".

pokeyl 09-05-2016 07:22 AM

Wife, Son, Me only. If you were to put a $80K deposit ????? I like my car! I have turned down driving a 1200HP BOSS TT, I just don't want to if I don't own it.

P's_Z 09-05-2016 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by felix0121 (Post 3548350)
I wanted to know how others would treat with annoying nuisances, especially in that situation of my thread title.

It is good if your cars have been not yet in any trouble, and you can permit only 'qualified' drivers to try yours.

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I think a respectful no is enough. You are not obligated to let anyone drive your car if you dont feel comfortable with it. Youre either OK with it or youre not.

If they want a test drive, nissan dealerships give them out for free! They will even sell you a 370z if you like the car :driving:

Z-Girl 12 09-05-2016 08:04 AM

My motto "you break, you buy" but I never feel obligated.

cv129 09-05-2016 08:08 AM

Op, how many times have you been seriously asked to hand over the keys? I am curious because others usually know not to ask to drive another person's car, especially an enthusiast's car.

To your question, I would first gauge the seriousness of the request by semi "laughing it off". 2nd request yields response with a smile "if you buy the car from me". Third time? Just a polite but direct "No, can't do, I do not like people driving my car".

SouthArk370Z 09-05-2016 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by felix0121 (Post 3548292)
... I personally want to avoid any type of trouble or stress from all hassles and nuisances as possible as I can, therefore I usually respond to them just with my firm poker face and absolute silence instead of directly saying 'no'. ...

Then take a hint from Nancy Reagan and just say no. This is not the playground - you don't have to share your toys. Sounds to me like you need to find new friends.

Personally, I take it on a case-by-case basis. If I trust your driving, here's the keys. If not, the answer is no.

If you do decide to let others drive your vehicles, make sure your insurance coverage includes any licensed driver and that they have a valid DL.

ChopsZ 09-05-2016 08:44 AM

I don't care who it is or how they'll react. I simply say no and that's it. If they don't like it or get pissed at me, they can kiss my a$$ for all I care. I'll let my brothers drive it, and that's it, one of which also owns a Z.

Anybody else?... Screw them.

P's_Z 09-05-2016 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3548416)
To your question, I would first gauge the seriousness of the request by semi "laughing it off". 2nd request yields response with a smile "if you buy the car from me". Third time? Just a polite but direct "No, can't do, I do not like people driving my car".

:iagree:

Although i couldnt imagine anyone being so insisting unless he was trying to rob you :eekdance:

MagmaRed370z 09-05-2016 10:12 AM

I say no and then I blame it on how quick the car is for unexperienced people. If they know about cars they would start a conversation with HP number, 0-60 times and stuff like that. If they don't know about car then they will acknowledge how quick the car is and praise all the car gods for the Z.


No, seriously, I say no every time.

jaedub 09-05-2016 11:29 AM

Only my family members. All my friends don't know how to drive a stick shift so they don't even bother asking. If you're going to lend someone your car, use your judgment and really think about the qualification that person has.

One time this person I know (not even a close friend of mine) had the audacity to ask me if he could borrow my brand new Z, without even license plate, to a high school prom.

Spooler 09-05-2016 12:44 PM

I have only let one person drive my car and he is on here. I had my first car handed back to me all bashed up from a hit and run. My dad had driven it to a body shop for a paint estimate. Needless to say, that is what started my car addiction. I was 16.

Fuzzzy 09-05-2016 01:55 PM

Generally, the friends who will ask to drive your Z are exactly the ones that you should not allow to drive it.

If you don't want them to drive it, then you must :nutswinger:.

I'm an old guy and a stay-off-my-lawn type. I have had this Z 2.5 years. I let my son drive it once when it was new and in his HS parking lot on a weekend. I figured that would help satisfy his curiosity. My wife has not driven it yet. She has only brought up the subject in a joking manner, but if she asked seriously, I would let her. I am sure she knows what my reaction would be if something happened to my Z while she was driving it or soon afterward. She's a pretty bright woman.

stansens 09-05-2016 03:35 PM

As an older guy myself I can't help remembering what my dad told me 45 years ago...."a car is like a woman. ...you simply never lend it or her to somebody else".

DeliriousClam 09-05-2016 04:06 PM

There are two other people that I have let drive my 370 and they're both guys that trained me in my former job

Duc_Z09 09-05-2016 06:11 PM

One of the many joys of a 6MT is that most of the people you don't want driving it... can't anyway.:ughdance:

Z-Girl 12 09-05-2016 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3548554)
One of the many joys of a 6MT is that most of the people you don't want driving it... can't anyway.:ughdance:

This :icon18:

Jimbo370 09-05-2016 06:30 PM

Coworkers ranging in age between 26 and 49 wanted to test drive but when I said it was a manual 1 guy was left. haha:rofl2:

BoneZ 09-05-2016 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3548416)
Op, how many times have you been seriously asked to hand over the keys? I am curious because others usually know not to ask to drive another person's car, especially an enthusiast's car.

To your question, I would first gauge the seriousness of the request by semi "laughing it off". 2nd request yields response with a smile "if you buy the car from me". Third time? Just a polite but direct "No, can't do, I do not like people driving my car".

I was going to say... I've never been asked by anyone in the 29 years I've been driving to drive any of my cars. I've offered to a few but never asked.

felix0121 09-05-2016 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo370 (Post 3548563)
Coworkers ranging in age between 26 and 49 wanted to test drive but when I said it was a manual 1 guy was left. haha:rofl2:

I usually do not say 'no' directly because some people take it for granted that I must do a favor to them.

Anyway, that should be the right time for us to go by manuals..

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ZeeBabar 09-05-2016 08:37 PM

I have never asked anyone if I can drive their car and I am 67. A few friends have Porches, one just got a BMW I-8.

I believe it's rude to "ask" someone unless there is a reason to believe they want you to try their car.

Even in the days when I "hunted" to get laid, I only approached a woman after I felt she was interested, never approached anyone without an invitation.

Sure we miss opportunities. While I was waiting to ascertain if a young woman was interested, some dude would walk up and ask to dance and she was gone. Other times I watched the guy being rejected.

Happens but for me, I think I need some ground to believe that I will have success before I pursue anything.

DeliriousClam 09-05-2016 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeBabar (Post 3548599)
I have never asked anyone if I can drive their car and I am 67. A few friends have Porches, one just got a BMW I-8.

I believe it's rude to "ask" someone unless there is a reason to believe they want you to try their car.

Even in the days when I "hunted" to get laid, I only approached a woman after I felt she was interested, never approached anyone without an invitation.

Sure we miss opportunities. While I was waiting to ascertain if a young woman was interested, some dude would walk up and ask to dance and she was gone. Other times I watched the guy being rejected.

Happens but for me, I think I need some ground to believe that I will have success before I pursue anything.

You. I like you.

ChopsZ 09-05-2016 10:21 PM

I know I've already answered on this, but...

Some of the people I know through work (clients, even my boss) don't actually ask, but flat out say "You're gonna have to let me drive it sometime". My exact reply right after is "No I don't".

Yeah, sure, call me a blunt, cold hearted SOB if you like. It doesn't bother me. It's my car, it's my 600 bucks paying on it every month. I tell them if they want to drive it so bad, then go to the dealership and drive on of theirs.

Jsolo 09-05-2016 10:28 PM

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mishuko 09-06-2016 07:42 AM

I've let a few of my cousins drive it for one reason or another. And everytime I have offered them the keys.

If anyone solicits an ask it's a nope.

Chuck33079 09-06-2016 08:14 AM

I don't understand why the OP just can't tell people "no". Going catatonic rather than simply telling someone "no" is pretty weak. That's some really socially awkward BS right there.

I can count the number of people who can drive my car on one hand. As long as they regularly drive a manual, have experience in high powered cars, and most importantly - can replace the car immediately if something should happen.

AestheticCM1 09-06-2016 09:00 AM

I let a good friend of mine take my Z for a spin one evening with me riding shotgun. Despite my clear warnings not to get on the throttle on long C turns, he did, a little, and nearly put the thing into a guardrail. Aside from that, the deceptive perception of speed produced by the Z meant I had to constantly remind him of our 70 mph bursts in a 25mph residential area laden with pigs. It was truly nerve racking, but he enjoyed the drive so much that I really can't say it wasn't worth it.

Ghostvette 09-06-2016 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AestheticCM1 (Post 3548790)
I let a good friend of mine take my Z for a spin one evening with me riding shotgun. Despite my clear warnings not to get on the throttle on long C turns, he did, a little, and nearly put the thing into a guardrail. Aside from that, the deceptive perception of speed produced by the Z meant I had to constantly remind him of our 70 mph bursts in a 25mph residential area laden with pigs. It was truly nerve racking, but he enjoyed the drive so much that I really can't say it wasn't worth it.

This is the primary reason no one drives my car, period. I know my car, the 'A-driver' doesn't. I let a 'friend' drive my 67 Chevelle while I was sitting in the passenger seat. He promptly spun out on some sand, ran the car off the road, screwed up the alignment and wrinkled a fender. To add insult to injury, he didn't even offer to pay for the damage. :gtfo2:


My car, my money. You want to drive one like it, hit the dealer. :gtfo2:

JARblue 09-06-2016 11:33 AM

Those people begging to let them drive it are most likely the ones with the least experience. But then again, I'd let anyone drive my Z with the right cash deposit first.

felix0121 09-06-2016 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3548772)
I don't understand why the OP just can't tell people "no". Going catatonic rather than simply telling someone "no" is pretty weak. That's some really socially awkward BS right there.

I can count the number of people who can drive my car on one hand. As long as they regularly drive a manual, have experience in high powered cars, and most importantly - can replace the car immediately if something should happen.

I don't think I am a socially awkward BS at all. Rather I think you're a kind of annoying troller who keeps putting negative and insulting posts to my thread so often with your bad manners.

I hope you to stop replying to all my threads from now on. Actually your behaviors in this forum to me have been pretty ignorant and obnoxious.

So.. now do you like this my direct expression ?? :D

Sometimes just keeping silence is way better than making unnecessary trouble, and at least I believe so because if you cannot understand what's wrong with you then it is pointless for me to say that.

Before you criticize others openly, you should reflect on yourself. Please stop bullying me anymore. I'll even not respond.


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Ghostvette 09-06-2016 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felix0121 (Post 3548893)
I don't think I am a socially awkward BS at all. Rather I think you're a kind of annoying troller who keeps putting negative and insulting posts to my thread so often with your bad manners.

I hope you to stop replying to all my threads from now on. Actually your behaviors in this forum to me have been pretty ignorant and obnoxious.

So.. now do you like this my direct expression ?? :D

Sometimes just keeping silence is way better than making unnecessary trouble, and at least I believe so because if you cannot understand what's wrong with you then it is pointless for me to say that.

Before you criticize others openly, you should reflect on yourself. Please stop bullying me anymore. I'll even not respond.


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Chuck33079 09-06-2016 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felix0121 (Post 3548893)
I don't think I am a socially awkward BS at all. Rather I think you're a kind of annoying troller who keeps putting negative and insulting posts to my thread so often with your bad manners.

I hope you to stop replying to all my threads from now on. Actually your behaviors in this forum to me have been pretty ignorant and obnoxious.

So.. now do you like this my direct expression ?? :D

Sometimes just keeping silence is way better than making unnecessary trouble, and at least I believe so because if you cannot understand what's wrong with you, it is pointless for me to say that.

Before you criticize others openly, you should reflect on yourself. Please stop bullying me anymore.



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Now, take that backbone and use it to say no when people keep asking to drive your car. :tup:

Seriously Felix, if you're going to keep asking stupid questions, you're going to get stupid answers. Deal with it.

slowman 09-06-2016 01:32 PM

Lol "JUST SAY NO"

Jsolo 09-06-2016 02:36 PM

My ex wanted to drive my z28 until she found out it had 3 pedals. Problem solved :)

To date, the only people that have driven my car were mechanics, in my presence, to get it from the parking lot to the car lift.

SouthArk370Z 09-06-2016 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felix0121 (Post 3548893)
I don't think I am a socially awkward BS at all. Rather I think you're a kind of annoying troller who keeps putting negative and insulting posts to my thread so often with your bad manners. ...

The Safe Area is next to the Principal's Office. You can have a good cry there and that meanie Chuck33079 can't bother you.

cv129 09-06-2016 05:37 PM

So seriously, how many times have people seriously requested to drive your car?

The question could be just a harmless request, but your poker face non-verbal response can be viewed as anything from simply afraid-to-say-no to getting offended or arrogant. A firm but polite response is better.

When asked a question, especially face to face, silence with a emotionless facial expression is most likely not the best polite nor effective response.


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