Owned my car for 5 years now. Only a lady friend asked to drive it. It sounded so ridiculous to me I laughed a little and said no. I found out she was serious when she immediately asked a second time. I just told her, I don't let anyone drive my cars. :tiphat: If you want to be nice, you can always ask them what's the fastest car they've ever owned. If it's slower than the Z, you can use the Z's too fast for them excuse. If they had something way faster, ask how long they had it and if they ever hit anything with it. That still could put them in to the Z's too fast for you category. If that checks out, ask them how many people they let drive it. If everything still checks out, I would be, "yeah right, I'm still not letting you drive it."

Seriously, unless it's a life or death situation, there's no good reason to risk someone else screwing up your ride.

One exception, if they let you drive something bada$$ of theirs in the past. Then you kind of owe them. That's why I don't accept offers to drive other people's stuff.

For Felix's sake, glad that he is not a smoking hot female, otherwise she'll be drunk everyday for not saying no to "hey can I buy you a drink?"

If you have any plastidip parts, yes let them drive it lol.

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Hey, Chuck. Seriously, let me calm down myself first, and now I say that it is absolutely okay for me that you say any of your opinions freely in this forum.

For me what matters is your way to say a thing. Please say anything just in a right way. I got upset very much when I saw you used those insulting terms 'socially awkward BS' toward me.

Maybe it seems like you already forgot that, but now I'm still remembering a happening that last time on my another thread you kept showing sarcastic response even after I had apologized for any inconvenience sincerely to you. (at least I felt so even though it was not intended)

It drove me crazy at that time because I thought it was inappropriate, and today I got bursted based on that.

I'm now an US resident but I'm not a native American, I was not born here, what worse is that English is not my mother tongue (even though I'm trying hard to improve it by myself), and I'm from a different culture. If I do not know how to behave polite in this country, I do agree to that it is my own problem and I need to fix it up anyway.

I don't want to make any trouble. I want to believe you are a good guy in the real world, but we've never met each other and even on this Internet we can easily misunderstand each other's nuance or intention. I have always done my best to keep my manners here. I'm a human, not a machine that I do have my emotions too. I hope we do not hurt each other anymore.

About that saying 'no' - well.. in fact, personally I'm so afraid of those who get angry to me when rejected (it seems so unreasonable) or those who try to take advantage of me when I gently say 'no' to them. Some people that I had met in my life, they did not stop there even when I really said 'no' - rather they kept trying to pursuade me. It was so stressful. Therefore later I made my own decision that I'd better keep silence with my poker face and not give any response to them rather than having risk for any possible argument.

That was a story.. It's still a kind of dilemma to me. If I say 'no', a case might go worse. If I do not say anything, then it might be rude..

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I just want to avoid getting in trouble rather than to be involved in any stressful argument.

That's why I said I would keep silence in that situation..

Don't let idiots stress you out. Life is too short and there are far too many.

Just politely tell them, "I'm sorry but I don't let anyone drive my car". If they ask again, just get in your car and leave. That is, if you are seriously concerned about the situation.

Once I permitted a guy (he was a 'friend' but actually I didn't like that much) to drive my Z when he implied to want to drive mine. He was a guy who had bad temper, and also was selfish and stubborn that he never gives up what he wants until I say 'yes' to him.

And what happened was that.. some weeks later I got a ticket by mail to my home that he violated a special lane with my Z, (an express lane..?? Now I cannot remember exactly what it was.. it happened several years ago), and it took about one month for me to make him pay for that. And even after that payment it did not seem that he really sincerely reflected on himself.

So then I cut out our relationship. I felt bitter.. :mad:

Sounds to me someone needs to grow a pair and simply say "NO".

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Only if the person will let you test drive their girlfriend/wife..

Do you really think anyone like this deserves your sympathy for denying their request? Tell them to :gtfo2: or remove yourself from the situation. Neither one is difficult.

I just re-read this. Are you saying you gave into implied peer pressure? Like he didn't even ask to drive your car directly and you still felt obligated to let him drive it? :icon14:

If so, you just need to get over it. Don't let people push you around. You don't always have to be the nice guy.

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:tup: No worries, man. Here's the thing - you're both overthinking this and doing yourself a disservice by not responding. A simple, polite NO is all they're entitled to. Not an explanation or apology. If that doesn't convince them, a hearty "**** off" will solve the problem real quick. You don't owe them anything. Unless they pay your bills or let you put your **** in them, then they don't matter. If they no longer want to associate with you because you won't lend them your property (which you would be liable for any catastrophe regardless of them being behind the wheel) then you have removed a worthless person from your life. That's a positive outcome.

I just have to give them a blank stare with an eyebrow raised and they know it means no

Jesus Christ guys you all sound like a bunch of nut huggers contemplating the minute details of how to approach a simple question. There is less debate over the KKKlinton foundation/email scandal!
The question gets asked, do you trust them or not? Answer accordingly. There is no need for you to go all Plato/Socrates or creepy guy blank psycho stare.

Hey. The only reason I give the creepy psychopath stare is because I am a creepy psychopath.

Anybody that knows me well enough to ask to drive my car already knows I'm going to say no...

If you don't know me well enough to already know my answer, you probably have no business asking to begin with...

:barf:

My father told me this when I was 16 years old..
"Never lend out your car or your woman, it's too easy to throw a rod in them"

This is the same look I give them as well...

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Anybody who actually helps me out with my car payment is more than welcome to drive my Z.

My wife (who is allowed to dive it occasionally) asked me last summer if it would be OK if she and her girl friend (who annoys the piss out of me, incidentally) could take it on a road trip to her parents' place to "keep the miles off of her Mustang." Said 2005 v6 Mustang has 240k+ miles and I've personally replaced 2 alternators, several wheel bearings, a fuel filter, an entire rear axle, every shock and strut, etc, because she's too cheap to buy a newer vehicle (which she could easily afford) or pay for a mechanic (which she could also afford but what the hell, she has me). The real kicker is she periodically berates me for my monthly car payment.:shakes head:

I very politely invited her to piss up a rope, and she hasn't asked me since.:ugh2:

Ok, actual words from me this time. Was just waiting for the 8etch fest to calm down first....

My exact words, "I am sorry, I do NOT let anyone drive my car. But, I will take you for a ride if you want?". Also, the most responsible person I know out of this group of people I know, that were all together one day, was given the chance by me. SHE kindly refused (she does know how to drive manual btw), in front of all the gents that always ask. I did it as a learning lesson for the others, if I am willing to let you drive, I will invite you to take it for a ride, with me riding along, NOT you asking. The more you ask, the more you will never get the chance.


Final thought, with most people, if they do not have anything invested they have no care what happens to your car. Same people who door ding you in a parking lot....

Your wife is allowed to 'dive' a Z !!

You guys must be the most extreme sports people I've ever seen !!

:D


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I will probably never let anyone drive my Z. Maybe one of my really close bros that I know can drive without screwing something up.

Here you go Duc:

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sorry (T^T)

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Only way I would let someone drive my car... is if their a girl, and I know ill be getting some.

just say no. i hate even giving the keys to my wife. my 21 yr old son wants to learn to drive stick with my z. um, sorry no.

This annoys the hell out of me. Everyone around me knows how anal I am about letting someone drive my Z. The worst offenders are the non-car guys. They see the car as a tool and nothing more. So to them, when they ask to drive your car and you refuse, they take it bad. Sort of like refusing to let them use your new cordless drill.
It's hard being a car enthusiast among non-car people.

No way, that is my baby.