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How is the reliability/cost of maintenance of 370z's? Thinking of selling my e46 m3

Reliability is generally good on these cars given you maintain them. I drive mine HARD on the weekends and it's still going strong. I'm also meticulous about maintenance. As mentioned,

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Old 08-03-2016, 10:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Reliability is generally good on these cars given you maintain them. I drive mine HARD on the weekends and it's still going strong. I'm also meticulous about maintenance.

As mentioned, if you go 6MT, the CSC is the weak point on these trans, but there are solid aftermarket solutions to rectify the issue. Good luck with your decision!

BTW, any pics of the E46? That's my favorite M3. My brother in law just picked up an '05 last night, ironically enough.
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Pretty funny reading all these newb posts like they've owned the car for 7 yrs or something.
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Pretty funny reading all these newb posts like they've owned the car for 7 yrs or something.
Now I'm hitting 130K miles around..

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The Japanese is very good at making existing technology reliable and pushing its performance to the limit. Years ago I read a small SUV comparison by C&D, the previous generation Toyota Rav4 with the 2.5L port-injected NA with the 4-speed auto outperformed the Ford Escape with the then new of 1.6L EcoBoost with a 6-speed auto in both acceleration and real world fuel economy by a slim margin.

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For the Zs, Nissan not offering DI, Turbo or DCT sure turns off some buyers, but that definitely makes the Z relatively reliable and cheap to maintain.
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I currently own a 2004 bmw m3 and i'm thinking of selling it and getting a brand new 370z. The cost of maintenance and owning my m3 is getting a bit ridiculous and it's always needing some type of work done on it. I'm somewhat handy with working on my car, I can do brakes, cooling system work, some suspension work and things like that on my own.

Basically what i'm trying to ask is how reliable are these cars and what are the weak points that have to be taken care of? How is the cost of maintenance once warranty is done? Is it a car that you can spend a weekend on wrenching on it yourself? I've already test driven one and I had a lot of fun driving it!
I traded in my 2003 Z4 2.5i for a 2017 370z just because of the maintenance cost. The bimmer has way too many sensors that can fail, and this can be annoying. I think buying later model of the Z is more reliable as problems from previous year should be fixed / addressed. At least you have 5 years of worry free powertrain warranty if you buy brand new
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I'm pretty sure that even newborn babies out of the womb know Japanese cars are reliable.

It's still interesting to hear all the stories from you techs. Thanks for making us all feel good about our purchases.
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Building off of what has already been previously mentioned. The only real expense that you will encounter with your Z should be tires! Be prepared to shell out $1200 if you want the best performing tires but then again my Z has all bolt ons and a tune and has been nothing but reliable. No issues yet, whether or not you use the more expensive Nissan Ester oil or not is up to you. Many forum members swear by redline. I will say best advise I can give you is to flush the trans and diff fluid within the first 3k miles and replace with High Performance fluid such as Motul. Will ensure your parts last far longer, especially if you have a lead foot like me. Best of luck and welcome to the Z club.
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Here's my testament to Nissan/Infiniti reliability -they've been the only cars I've owned for the last 22 years and here's their history:

1994 Nissan Altima (bought new, kept for 12 years- handed down to wife in 2000)

2000 Nissan Maxima (bought new, drove for 7 years until it got hit by someone at a light and totaled)

2004 Infiniti G35S (bought used in 2007 after Maxima totaled)

2008 Infiniti G37S (bought used in 2010 as an upgrade to G35S)

2013 Nissan 370Z touring with sports pkg and all options (bought new in 2013, still own it)

I've never had any issues with any of those cars. I've simply changed the oil filters and consumables like belts, batteries, brake pads.
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Here's the list of things i've had to replace on my m3 since i've gotten it 3 years ago.

-Alternator
-Starter
-Fuel Pump
-Various electrical sensors
-Vanos camshaft bolts broke and bent all my valves. Cost $4000 to rebuild vanos and head.
-Replaced old suspension with coilvers
-New brakes/rotors/bushings
-Radiator/water pump/coolant hoses

Guess you can't blame me for wanting to get into Japanese sports cars right? Brutal on the wallet lol
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Couple photos of it for the guy who asked, Laguna Seca Blue on dove grey interior, 6 speed manual

LSB-0409 by Nedal Saba, on Flickr

LSB-0378 by Nedal Saba, on Flickr

Also have a hardtop on it for the winter

LSB-0203 by Nedal Saba, on Flickr
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Going on 7 years, 55k miles no major issues. Only been back to the dealership once for the steering lock recall.
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Nice car Bimmers, but some nice bills too

4 years on my 13 Sport Z 6mt and I did have my front rotors resurfaced a few months back. Steering wheel was shaking just a little during high speed braking. Other then that just fluid changes.
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da only maintenance ive done is routine stuff. oil changes, air filter changes, cabin filter changes, blinker fluid changes, brake fluid changes, coolant changes, tire changes, exhaust changes, mines rear spoiler changes, ings+ front lip changes, cs mirror changes, so on and so forth. just routine stuff
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I've owned two E34s (530, 535) and currently drive an E39 (540) so I'm very familiar with a BMW's true cost to own. They're amazing cars but over-priced. Replacement parts are even more ridiculously priced. I replaced the key and HVAC buttons for the 540 a few months ago and I spent almost 400 Euros. I would never, ever, keep a BMW past the warranty period unless it's an M car I intend on keeping forever. We recently picked up an F30 (320), and though it serves its purpose very well, it'll get traded in before the warranty goes out.
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Things to watch out for:

Leaking Differential Bushings, replace with aftermarket as Nissan ones are junk and will leak again.
Steering Lock Failure, was supposed to be fixed via recall but beware late 2010's like mine that aren't covered under recall but still failed. :/
Clutch Slave Cylinder failing and not being covered under the POWERTRAIN warranty (I mean come on, I was stranded 4 hours from home and you tell me its not powertrain)

But to be honest, I have a friend who drive a 5 series and the maintanence cost is much much higher for him than me. Plus I have done all of these repairs (minus the Slave cylinder) myself in my driveway with my father as projects so Yes you can do the wrenching yourself if you have the time and the drive.

Overall, with all the issues I've had, I don't ever plan on selling this car, it's just like my motorcycle, it might break in weird ways sometimes but the unique special feeling I get from driving it is worth it.
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