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///maestro 06-20-2016 03:55 PM

My Horror Story with AutoFlex/Dip
 
I'm creating this thread to show my horror story with autoflex and share my frustration with you guys.

Car looks amazing doesn't it? WRONG - Pictures are so deceiving when it comes to Dip/Autoflex.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7135/2...f6a89155_b.jpg

I bought several new body parts for my car in hopes of getting it wrapped. My buddy went to a local shop here in NJ for autoflex and he mentioned that autoflex was just as good as wrap but about half the price. With that said, his Dip/Autoflex came out really good for the price! After doing some research and talking, I bit the bullet and made an appointment with DipOne Protective Coatings in Frenchtown NJ. He explained that I had to make an appointment a month in advance due to how busy they are... so I did.

- I dropped off the car and was supposed to get it within 3 days. I told him to keep it for a week because he told me he'd fix a very small crack in my amuse spoiler but may take an extra day or two to fix it. I knew of someone that dropped their car off at dipone AFTER me and got their car back before me. They kept my car for 11 days and I finally got it back.

-On the day I got the car back, it looked phenomenal from about 2+ feet away. Once I got closer, I noticed millions of problems. Below is a list of everything they managed to screw up:

-The crack in my wing? They said they fixed it. When I picked up my car, they literally just sprayed over the crack in my wing..
-GIANT paint runs down my driver-side Fly1 fenders.
-The masking on the car was awful. Multiple spots around the car still showed the OEM pearl white color.
-Several spots on the car was missing clear coat and had a matte finish.
-Overspray in SO many places.
-Owner told me my roof was wrapped in black, The day I came to pick up the car was when he told me "no it's not wrapped."
-Several spots on the car show the gray basecoat because whoever sprayed the car didn't want to bend down or get in the tough area's (particularly the inside of my amuse wing).
-There was paint on my windows and tires from terrible masking/overspray
-Instead of painting my front bumper, they painted and also vinyl wrapped the perimeter of the black part (grill) of my front bumper. The vinyl was peeling off since day 1 and this is something I never asked for.
-There were scratches, nibs, and nicks in the paintjob all throughout the car.

This is how the car looked the day before I dropped it off at DipOne to get the paint taken off:
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When they told me the "paint came off clean" I assumed that they did a good job getting everything off. Little did I know that I was in for a shocker.
The following is what they did upon returning the car to me after dip removal:
-PINK BODY PANELS
-Broke a chunk off of my RS1 fenders
-Made the crack in my wing probably twice as long
-Cracked the clearcoat on my wing (CF top)
-Chipped paint off of my sideskirts
-ripped up some of the body filler from my front and rear bumpers.
-Blue dip is still ALL over the entire car and in the worst spots possible. It's going to take me DAYS to take everything off.
-Both my front fenders had a clear protective bra put on (not by them) and they ripped it off without consulting with me
-Both my taillights were tinted red (also NOT by them) and they removed the tint only on the drivers side?
-the car was completely filthy when they gave it back to me, didn't even bother cleaning it up.
-It took over 2 weeks for them to even process my refund.

Here's is the video I took the day I received the car at their shop:
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Here is how the car was dropped off:
http://i.imgur.com/paJsVFX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nC270BD.jpg

And this is how it was returned to me:
http://i.imgur.com/HyxELPU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oBvwHO3.jpg

My buddy is going back to them this week to get the dip taken off of his mustang because it started peeling. We'll see what happens with his car. Praying that it's not as bad as mine.

I was quoted roughly 6-7 thousand in repair costs to get it back to OEM pearl and to fix all their mistakes. This does not include painting the front and rear bumpers, along with this wing.

This thread was solely created to spread awareness of DipOne "pro" Coatings and their work. Thank you DipOne for ruining my car.

DeliriousClam 06-20-2016 04:01 PM

Thank you for this actually. I was considering bringing mine there to get done

///maestro 06-20-2016 05:46 PM

Personally speaking, they people have 0 respect for other people's property. As a car enthusiast, I was heartbroken to see my car in the condition it was in. My only hope in sharing this post is to prevent any other forum members from going through what I went through.

Hopefully my lawyer can clear things up and win some funds so that I could get my car all pretty again.

TriNismo 06-20-2016 06:33 PM

Dang that's horrible. Can't trust anyone anymore to do a good job


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Jinxx 06-20-2016 06:49 PM

Yea that is a bad dip job .....the orange discoloration will fade away tho just let the hot sun get it for a week or so....I will say I have dipped my 350z dozens of times I have pics on my profile and from what I can see the fault lies with the shop more than the product ....its shops and dip jobs like that make the product seem very bad ...hope he refunds all your money.

Also my 350z was white as well and discolored the same way ...I had mine bright yellow and when I peeled it looked the same ...I was like great 4K for a new paint job ...but I dipped it in black so I could drive it .....2 months later I peeled it again ....and 80% of the discoloration was gone ...the rest the sun removed in like a week

OptionZero 06-20-2016 06:54 PM

Holy crap that is terrible!

Sounds like this "business" had no idea what the hell they were doing with this dip stuff and no idea how to fix the problem. Those photos show a ridiculous negative after effects from this crap

What the hell is even "autoflex"? How is it different than straight up vinyl or paint? Why'd you use that instead of . . . vinyl or paint?

The lesson as always:
"just as good at half the price" = nope

please burn this place to the ground, they need to pay up for a full paintjob

///maestro 06-20-2016 08:13 PM

Thanks for the support guys.

Autoflex is supposed to be the equivalent of real paint, it's supposed to have a really glossy finish like real paint.

They refunded me my money finally though. I'm still goin after them for damages. I was never told that my car will be discolored after the dip and if I was told about it, then I would have never dipped my car. I was just so mad that they ****** up my wing, my fenders, and left dip everywhere.

ramoszx12r 06-20-2016 08:51 PM

Hate to see that, hope you get your money back. Love that bleu.

TriNismo 06-21-2016 12:31 AM

My Horror Story with AutoFlex/Dip
 
Off topic.. what hood is that? Seibon? How's the fit? Looks good


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Trips 06-21-2016 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///maestro (Post 3501609)
Thanks for the support guys.

Autoflex is supposed to be the equivalent of real paint, it's supposed to have a really glossy finish like real paint.

They refunded me my money finally though. I'm still goin after them for damages. I was never told that my car will be discolored after the dip and if I was told about it, then I would have never dipped my car. I was just so mad that they ****** up my wing, my fenders, and left dip everywhere.

What a fuked thing to happen :shakes head:

Its good to hear you at least got your $$ back, Now on to file an ins. claim to have them pay for the damages.

You shouldn't have to pay out of pocket for their fuk up.

ZHighlander 06-21-2016 02:17 AM

The fact that they thought they could get away with all of that is mind boggling. Did they think you were visually impaired?

If they don't know what they're doing, they shouldn't be offering their services... although I'm probably just preaching to the choir here.

Good luck on getting some damage money out of them. Hope you get something worth your trouble.

You gonna get the entire paint job redone the same way? Other than the closeup of the issues, that blue and black looked awesome!

JC-Nismo 06-21-2016 02:55 AM

Holy fuckkin hell!!! I never got the whole pay thousands for dip and wraps just to pull the shiit right back off. $7-$8 grand...............Dam, is that how much paint jobs are costing these days???

axmea? 06-21-2016 03:04 AM

Good shops charge between $500 - $600 a panel. Some custom shops charge more. Plus it is PW so 3 stage paint.

OP good luck on your repairs. On line reviews about their poor service would have kept me away.

Amuse370z 06-21-2016 03:44 AM

The car looked phenomenal in the first pic. But god damn after watching your videos I am actually furious.

What a garbage company. I hope you can get your car looking the way its supposed to in the near future.

JC-Nismo 06-21-2016 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3501768)
Good shops charge between $500 - $600 a panel. Some custom shops charge more. Plus it is PW so 3 stage paint.

OP good luck on your repairs. On line reviews about their poor service would have kept me away.

Dam, I remember when $2000 would get you a factory paint job!!!
OP, get it painted the same color as the bad wrap, that blue is badazz and although up close is horrible, that first pic is a Money Shot!!!

Nixin 06-21-2016 07:54 AM

What a disaster! Call the BBB and file a claim with them as well. GL.

JARblue 06-21-2016 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3501749)
What a fuked thing to happen :shakes head:

Its good to hear you at least got your $$ back, Now on to file an ins. claim to have them pay for the damages.

You shouldn't have to pay out of pocket for their fuk up.

:iagree: :iagree:

Sorry about your poor Z, OP :(

I hope everything works out and you are made whole again.

2011 Nismo#91 06-21-2016 08:07 AM

Wow what a disaster, I hope you get them to pay for all the repair costs.

Looking at their website with 700 to dip a whole coupe they can't be planning to spend time in it.

I looked at dipping my car but I just couldn't find anyone at any local car show with a decent job. Not that a good job couldn't be done, even saw a person do a damn good pain job with a rattle can once. Good work is hard to find.

ChaseZ 06-21-2016 08:24 AM

Brutal.

They clearly have no business being in business

///maestro 06-21-2016 08:37 AM

I've actually seen some fantastic autoflex/dip jobs. Not from DipOne of course. I was too naive and went to them after I saw my buddy's car and all the pictures they post on instagram. Pictures do absolutely no justice whatsoever! It's so deceiving!

The next color I do will either be the same color or maybe a dark aqua. We'll see. Right now, I still have to peal off the remaining dip that they were too lazy to peal.


BTW I was quoted 6-7k ONLY to fix the pink, take off the dip, fix&paint the fender and wing.....not paint the rest of the car. So you can only imagine how much an entire car will be.

fantaZ 06-21-2016 11:14 AM

wow dude that car is toast.

ZHighlander 06-21-2016 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3501879)
What a disaster! Call the BBB and file a claim with them as well. GL.

BBB does absolutely nothing. They are not a government entity, they're literally an old-school Yelp. They do not enforce or do anything helpful. Don't waste time on this. Or at least, don't go expecting results of any kind.

kenchan 06-21-2016 06:59 PM

sorry to hear and see.


was there a reason why u did not just get it painted considering the amount of money already spent on all the bits?

///maestro 06-22-2016 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3502284)
sorry to hear and see.


was there a reason why u did not just get it painted considering the amount of money already spent on all the bits?

Because to spend 1000-1500 on painting all the new panels, I might as well spend that same amount to change the color of the entire car. And it would be easier to resell the body panels if they were unpainted (in my opinion) ...especially the CF hood.

Apoc370z 06-22-2016 05:03 PM

How are they still in business?

And it's hard to imagine anything sprayed on won't affect the bade color upon removal unless it is something like plasti dip where you can easily peel off.

ZHighlander 06-22-2016 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc370z (Post 3502992)
How are they still in business?

And it's hard to imagine anything sprayed on won't affect the bade color upon removal unless it is something like plasti dip where you can easily peel off.

I think that's what they did. Dipped it first, then sprayed over the dip so it can be easily removed afterwards. They just did a horrible job with it.

///maestro 06-22-2016 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc370z (Post 3502992)
How are they still in business?

And it's hard to imagine anything sprayed on won't affect the bade color upon removal unless it is something like plasti dip where you can easily peel off.

Correct, but what they sprayed on WAS plastidip. Autoflex is basically a clear coat that goes over the dip that gives it the paint-like shine and gloss.

kenchan 06-22-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///maestro (Post 3502955)
Because to spend 1000-1500 on painting all the new panels, I might as well spend that same amount to change the color of the entire car. And it would be easier to resell the body panels if they were unpainted (in my opinion) ...especially the CF hood.

wat i meant was why not just spend the $7-9K to get the color you wanted in real automotive paint? full car paint.

brancky3 06-23-2016 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3503042)
wat i meant was why not just spend the $7-9K to get the color you wanted in real automotive paint? full car paint.

Because if the AutoFlex turned out nicer he could have changed colors 5 times for the same price.

God-Speed 06-23-2016 08:08 AM

I could not believe what I saw and how bad of a job that was done. Talking about the B-team. Hell it looks like the person or persons that did the job, was their first time the paint anything. I surprised they just didn't use a brush. Hope things get better and sorry to see what happened. :shakes head:

milkcow500 06-23-2016 08:50 AM

Geez. Dip One is pretty well known in the industry too...

I hope you get this resolved soon because there's way too many issues with this install.

By the way, the pink will go away if you leave the car in the sun for a week or so. I've had this happen before and it's because there wasn't a neutral colored base coat sprayed initially.

MagmaRed370z 06-23-2016 09:01 AM

What a freaking mess.

///maestro 06-23-2016 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3503042)
wat i meant was why not just spend the $7-9K to get the color you wanted in real automotive paint? full car paint.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3503355)
Because if the AutoFlex turned out nicer he could have changed colors 5 times for the same price.

Yes exactly. 7-9k is way too much for paint in my opinion. I could have the car boosted for that much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by God-Speed (Post 3503376)
I could not believe what I saw and how bad of a job that was done. Talking about the B-team. Hell it looks like the person or persons that did the job, was their first time the paint anything. I surprised they just didn't use a brush. Hope things get better and sorry to see what happened. :shakes head:

Exactly. They were just throwing excuse after excuse at me. I wasn't having it. My lawyer feels very confident about this case (but then again, what lawyer doesn't lol)

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkcow500 (Post 3503426)
Geez. Dip One is pretty well known in the industry too...

I hope you get this resolved soon because there's way too many issues with this install.

By the way, the pink will go away if you leave the car in the sun for a week or so. I've had this happen before and it's because there wasn't a neutral colored base coat sprayed initially.

I thought they were too....Its the deceiving instagram pictures that get everyone to think that. Nobody has yet to really complain about them. They tried offering me a free wrap job by one of their guys to compensate for damages....The guy that does their "wrap" is absolutely awful. They openly admitted that they refunded 8 autoflex jobs last month. This guy admitted so much to me via text that its almost impossible for me to lose this case.

As for the pink - I don't care that it will fade or not. The fact of that matter is that I was not notified that there would be a possibility of it altering my OEM paint. That is where this guy f<sp/>ucked up. If I knew it would, I would have never been in this mess.

JARblue 06-23-2016 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///maestro (Post 3503504)
Yes exactly. 7-9k is way too much for paint in my opinion. I could have the car boosted for that much.

Actually, that sounds very reasonable to have a car painted. You get what you pay for :twocents:

And a $7K boost job on a 370Z is probably going to have a similar outcome as your dip. A really crappy shop might fab together an ebay kit and install it for that price, but it won't last long. Again, you get what you pay for.

I'm not trying to say you deserve the results you got - those guys were obviously incompetent. But results like that are why I will always pay more to have someone that I know knows what they're doing to do it right rather than cheap out and get it done by the lowest bidder. When I look back in hindsight, I don't want to have to say I wish I had spent more money to do it right the first time.

///maestro 06-23-2016 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3503531)
Actually, that sounds very reasonable to have a car painted. You get what you pay for :twocents:

And a $7K boost job on a 370Z is probably going to have a similar outcome as your dip. A really crappy shop might fab together an ebay kit and install it for that price, but it won't last long. Again, you get what you pay for.

I'm not trying to say you deserve the results you got - those guys were obviously incompetent. But results like that are why I will always pay more to have someone that I know knows what they're doing to do it right rather than cheap out and get it done by the lowest bidder. When I look back in hindsight, I don't want to have to say I wish I had spent more money to do it right the first time.

for 9-10k you could definitely boost a 370z. (I was leaning more towards the bigger number in your pricing range). And I 100% agree with the "you get what you pay for" statement. But my thoughts were "it's only $1,000 dollars, If I don't like it, i'm not losing much." I was upset with how the blue came out for the price because others came out much much better, but what really got me is how they ruined everything while taking the paint off...That was something I was not expecting. They market this stuff as if it peels off in large panels and comes off very easily. With that said, there were THOUSANDS of small blue pieces of my paint of the ground when I got there to pick the car up.

brancky3 06-23-2016 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3503531)
And a $7K boost job on a 370Z is probably going to have a similar outcome as your dip. A really crappy shop might fab together an ebay kit and install it for that price, but it won't last long. Again, you get what you pay for.

To be fair, it said $7-9k :tup:

BP turbo kit is $7300 plus ~$2000 for install (ballpark). Boom. :happydance:

JARblue 06-23-2016 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3503541)
To be fair, it said $7-9k :tup:

BP turbo kit is $7300 plus ~$2000 for install (ballpark). Boom. :happydance:

:rolleyes:

If you think that's all you need to boost a 370Z you're in for an eye opener. None of the turbo kits include all the supporting mods necessary for forced induction :twocents:

$10-12K is about the minimum you can get away with for a decent kit and install. And that doesn't even include the necessary contingency fund for when $hit goes south. Because with boost, it's not a matter of if but when.

JARblue 06-23-2016 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///maestro (Post 3503538)
But my thoughts were "it's only $1,000 dollars, If I don't like it, i'm not losing much."

And my first follow up thought to that is "... unless they fuck something up."

If you can get a good product and install for $1K it seems like it should be more popular. But there's no reason they shouldn't be able to replicate the results on other vehicles with your own. If you had seen their work, and it was acceptable to you, then I can't say you made a poor decision on your purchase. You just got unlucky. In my experience the cheaper you go, the more of risk that becomes. There is no right answer though, unfortunately.

brancky3 06-23-2016 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3503565)
:rolleyes:

If you think that's all you need to boost a 370Z you're in for an eye opener. None of the turbo kits include all the supporting mods necessary for forced induction :twocents:

$10-12K is about the minimum you can get away with for a decent kit and install. And that doesn't even include the necessary contingency fund for when $hit goes south. Because with boost, it's not a matter of if but when.

Yea my post was mostly sarcastic about $9k - but he said boost the Z, not drive the boosted Z :roflpuke2:

I built up my old 2001 Audi A4 with a bigger turbo and quickly found I needed a huge intercooler, a 3" exhaust, a new clutch, an EBC, etc etc etc. Luckily the engine internals were pretty stout on that and really had no chance to blow with the ~450HP I was running.

JARblue 06-23-2016 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3503626)
Yea my post was mostly sarcastic about $9k - but he said boost the Z, not drive the boosted Z :roflpuke2:

Lol in that case just buy the $1200 ebay turbo kit and cram the parts randomly into the engine bay :icon17:


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