EPA Ban Mods - Not sure if this is a big deal or not
 

Hello,

I just signed the petition, "President of the United States: Prevent the EPA from Banning Vehicle Modification!."

I think this is important. Will you sign it too?

Here's the link:

https://www.change.org/p/president-o...e-modification

Signed

Anything against taxes and the government gaining more power or against new stupid laws in always in and I hope you fwrd me these petitions always migga93@hotmail.com


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I bought a ram diesel so i wouldnt have to mess with smog, dammn if CA didnt find a way to require diesels smogged(think $65) times many 1000s of diesels...they are eyeballing Prius type cars too, motorcycles and even boats...:icon23:

Signed, ******* *** holes


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signed... from Canada!

This proposed ban is very real.

However, rather than signing a non-descript petition, you'd be better served e-mailing your congressperson or senator protesting the EPA proposal.

time to start making tree-huggers disappear

:iagree: I'm all for putting a bounty on them.

Come on now...don't you want to live forever!!! :eek:

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Signed...but I doubt the bill will go through.

Go out in a ball of fire, or just fade away?

Signed and shouted out lol
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...les-racecars-0

Heres another petition

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...les-racecars-0

Heres another petition

For the folks who do research before freaking out might like this?
No, the EPA Didn't Just Outlaw Your Race Car

Government is trying to not let us mod our cars
 

Found this interesting, the government is trying to prohibit us from altering our vehicles..

Please sign this

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...les-racecars-0

technically you cant mod your car already depending on state laws.

PA state law says you cannot change the stock exhaust system at all. we all know how I abided by that one lol

Signed both

That's what they want us to think. There's always something hidden that ****'s everyone, since when have they been fully honest with the people and kept their word?


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Maybe but what they say isn't what is written.

"Certified motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines and their emission control devices must remain in their certified configuration even if they are used solely for competition or if they become nonroad vehicles or engines; anyone modifying a certified motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine for any reason is subject to the tampering and defeat device prohibitions of 40 CFR 1068.101(b) and 42 U.S.C. 7522(a)(3"

639 pages with no table of contents or index, it's made so you can't find anything.

So are you being honest by telling the Gov you broke the law by modding your vehicle? It goes both ways. I broke the law by modding mine according to my state and fed laws. We all are hiding something. Just don't jump to conclusions!

Yeah I know emission laws. Which deals with intake and exhaust mostly. But literally by regulating emissions they regulate everything because everything in the car revolves precisely around that. And I get your point too, I know we're not perfect and that we're all corrupt to some degree. I'm not arrogant, but I am passionate and I push it far because usually people will begin to forget or ignore what's going on. Sometimes you have to push a little more or expand something just so people can actually pay attention to an issue that may not be major at the present moment but will become big in due time. Idk that's my feelings haha. Either way, power to the people and freedom gents :3


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All performance part are now illegal
 

Ok so here is the skinny i'm putting this in the engine and drivetrain because it means the end of all performance modifications period. The regulation hiddin by the epa in a regulation about diesel truck emissions basically says that it is now illegal to convert anything that was certified as a road vehicle by the epa into an offroad racecar specifically targetting modifications to the entire engine or exhaust and related emissions systems. What you are not being told is that they plan to punish the manufacturers with up to a $37k dollar fine per part produced for any vehicle that at one point had an epa certification. Who do you think is going to make you a cat back and eat a $37k fine?

Well anyways here is the petition to the president to to tell the epa to to take a flying leap sign it if you want us all to be able to get parts in the future the more signatures it gets the more likely we will be able to actually get something done about it instead of just getting a bs response from his secretary

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...les-racecars-0

Already signed it

Yeah my hope is that some of the over 133k members on here havent yet. Oh and spread the word to any other forum like things you may be on.

If this bill passes they're essentially throwing out billions of dollars in tax revenues for some measly fines. I honestly I don't see that happening but I did my part.

Every sponsor in this forum will be hurt. I never trusted tree huggers.

WAKE UP AMERICA another freedom lost buried in a 700 page bill.

signed and forwarded.

clean air act
 

“The EPA indicated that the regulation would prohibit conversion of vehicles into racecars and make the sale of certain emissions-related parts for use on converted vehicles illegal.” The group continued, “SEMA will continue to oppose the regulation through the administrative process and will seek congressional support and judicial intervention as necessary.”

So I'm guessing this is it for any kind of catalytic converter mods... test pipes, HFC, etc. Can anyone clarify this?

welcome to earlier in the week. check the offtopic section.

Screw them, I will modify my 1975 280zt.

Guys, this is serious stuff. In the Diesel world the EPA has fined many aftermarket companies for mods for 2007 and up diesel trucks( DPF removal's etc.) They are not going after the public, but the manufacturers of said mods. How can you mod anything with nothing to buy.

the EPA can blow me.

I will not run cats. ever.

they have made leaps and bounds in the cleaning up the emissions of vehicles over the last 10 years.

if the EPA wants to clean it up tell them to make the fastest model tesla 50k instead of 130k with options then we could talk. I've driven one and they are kinda badass lol

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u think ure cooltoy or something? .. :icon08:

Ah see, I've learned a little more this time. So it seems that the new law is going to screw us all because the law is gonna be for manufacturers to follow. So that means the parts won't be getting made for us to illegally buy and install anyways. So no more mods due to lack of parts at least anything within emissions, which is virtually all the juicy and powerful parts... I knew it went a little beyond the public.


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