370z VS E46 M3 :)

billydsz · 06-07-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by XKaLiBaR

I am the owner and driver of the M3 in that video. Now i know where all the stupid comments came from on the video lol.

In the recent edition of Autocar, the 370z was compared to the M3 CSL, as both are same price. Yes, we compare current price of a vehicle, not what price the car was 10 years ago lol. The M3 won with flying colours on pretty much everything.

Dont get me wrong, the 370z is a fantastic car, if you like drifting, or big body kits and my dentist has one with chrome alloys, but its not the whole package. Im not sure on the 370z but the 350z was a terrible car. The interior was horrid for one thing, but that plastic interior is what you get with Nissan cars.

Back to the video. I was very excited to see the new 370z on track that day. But he was doing 1.25-1.26 lap times. That day my quickest was 1.23, with cracked rear subframe and loose sway bar up front. The car was very loose around the bends. I have had everything fixed, and had a remap done (+20bhp, 353bhp), and i am getting 1.21s on that particular track.

Current 1/4 mile on my M3 is 12.8 seconds, if you like that sort of thing.

Standard vs standard both m3 and 370z are very similar, except M3 gets back seats, and still weighs pretty much the same as the 370z. We are comparing a 10 year old car, which is worth 3 times less than a current 370z car at the moment.

My car will be in next months Performance BMW magazine, if you want to check it out. (its the red one)

Yeah? Was the sun in your eyes too? The Z was pulling away from you in the straights with ease. Maybe you were dragging a muffler? Anyway it was good the Z had a mechanical issue so you could overtake him.

Thanks for registering on the 370z site to bash our car. I am sure it's really appreciated.

xfrgtr · 06-07-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by billydsz

Yeah? Was the sun in your eyes too? The Z was pulling away from you in the straights with ease. Maybe you were dragging a muffler? Anyway it was good the Z had a mechanical issue so you could overtake him.

Thanks for registering on the 370z site to bash our car. I am sure it's really appreciated.

XKaLiBaR · 06-08-2010, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by billydsz

Yeah? Was the sun in your eyes too?

It wasnt sunny

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The Z was pulling away from you in the straights with ease

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I dont think we are watching the same video mate. Twice i had to let go of the throttle, so i didnt go into the back of him. First one at .32 seconds and seconds at 1.48 seconds.

And if it looked like he was pulling away, i would hope so, as he comes out the corner before me, and so is on the throttle first. Common sense really. But not once in the video, was he every pulling away on the straights.

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Maybe you were dragging a muffler? Anyway it was good the Z had a mechanical issue so you could overtake him.

What mechanical issue? Is this something you guys dreamed up together?

Have none of you guys been on track before? You dont keep going round and round the track no stop. You do cool down laps, so that the engine, brakes, tyres, and everything else cools down. Or else its bad for the car in every way, and you wear stuff down. These are road cars, not track cars, that get new tyres and brakes every time they go on track or race.

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Thanks for registering on the 370z site to bash our car. I am sure it's really appreciated.

Well, one sided debates are a bit silly.

The fact of the matter is, the 350z was slow, and they had to bring the engine to a 3.7 litre to get the same power as the 3.2 litre S54 engine which is currently in the E46 M3.
Not sure why you guys are comparing your cars now to an E92 M3

In standard form, i have no issues keeping up with them, as weight is there downfall. But remap, full exhaust and pulleys, bring those cars up to 460bhp.
However, for the price of a new 370z, you can pick up an E92 M3 now.

I do agree that the E92 is a soft car compared to the previous models of M3s.

NYBladeZ · 06-08-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by XKaLiBaR

It wasnt sunny

However, for the price of a new 370z, you can pick up an E92 M3 now.

I do agree that the E92 is a soft car compared to the previous models of M3s.

I hope you meant E46 because that would make sense. However, the Z responds to bolt on's better than the e46 and baseline will make more power to the wheels. At my last dyno day a stock e46 put down 282whp whereas I put down 296whp.

Frankly if you can get a new car with warranty for the same price you can get an older M why wouldn't you want a new car?

I don't mind M guys coming on here, especially e46 M3 guys, I know enough of them to know how you guys are. However, lets be real, the Z is faster than the e46 M3, handles just as well if not better, is cheaper to mod, and is still in the opening stages when it comes to aftermarket parts available. Frankly the only thing the e46 M3 has is 2 extra tiny seats and a BMW badge, but for some that's enough.

XKaLiBaR · 06-08-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

I hope you meant E46 because that would make sense. However, the Z responds to bolt on's better than the e46 and baseline will make more power to the wheels. At my last dyno day a stock e46 put down 282whp whereas I put down 296whp.

Frankly if you can get a new car with warranty for the same price you can get an older M why wouldn't you want a new car?

I don't mind M guys coming on here, especially e46 M3 guys, I know enough of them to know how you guys are. However, lets be real, the Z is faster than the e46 M3, handles just as well if not better, is cheaper to mod, and is still in the opening stages when it comes to aftermarket parts available. Frankly the only thing the e46 M3 has is 2 extra tiny seats and a BMW badge, but for some that's enough.

You can pick up an E92 for the same price as a new 370z. However, an E46 is third the price, or half if you want to get a low mileaged one.

The 0-60 and 1/4 mile times is identical to one another.

The top gear lap times comparing 2 cars 10 years apart is nonsense.

xfrgtr · 06-08-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by XKaLiBaR

You can pick up an E92 for the same price as a new 370z. However, an E46 is third the price, or half if you want to get a low mileaged one.

The 0-60 and 1/4 mile times is identical to one another.

The top gear lap times comparing 2 cars 10 years apart is nonsense.

Youre the one comparing a 10yo car to the Z.