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Z_ealot 02-07-2016 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3406723)
I just want a raw driver car. The only thing like a Z is a Porsche Cayman. Nismo compares to a Cayman GT4. Personally, I hate the nanny gadgets on the Z. Traction control and the stupid stability control suck. I don't need the syncro rev match either. I can heal/toe just fine without it. Just my .02.

But can you heel/toe accurately 100% of the time :)

Spooler 02-07-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3406733)
But can you heel/toe accurately 100% of the time :)

Yeap, old school.

UNKNOWN_370 02-07-2016 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3406723)
I just want a raw driver car. The only thing like a Z is a Porsche Cayman. Nismo compares to a Cayman GT4. Personally, I hate the nanny gadgets on the Z. Traction control and the stupid stability control suck. I don't need the syncro rev match either. I can heal/toe just fine without it. Just my .02.

There's NOTHING raw about a Cayman. A Cayman is very dialed in, very predictable, engaging in the most simplified sense of the word. There are extremely rare man against machine moments in the Cayman so to speak, taking away the title of raw in the experience.
The Z is raw because it is dialed in, and mostly predictable, but can get away on you if you're not careful. The Cayman electronics really keep you regulated. You may as well be driving AWD is so computer regulated. But the fact that you can get around corners at such high speeds kind of makes up for the lack of involvement that is provided with the Z. The Z, is a rambunctious, fairly light for its power level vehicle that has muscle car rawness with sports car ability. Just slower than a muscle car and edgier than the finer sports options available. That lack of perfection is what makes a car raw.

Now that I've been driving a lot of higher end cars. It seems the cars that do the most work for you get the highest praise. And then brands than can balance driver involvement with technology like the GT-R get shunned. I don't know WHERE people got the idea the GT-R is soulless. It's incredible. My only issues with the GT-R is size, ride height and feels like you're sitting high. That's why now, after experiencing it I'm not sure I'd buy it, though the power and precision are addicting.
My favorite 911 is the GT-S because the GT-3 is boring on regular roads without breaking laws. If I was tracking a lot. Then I'd take the GT-3. But all you will hear about is the GT-3. Also the GT-S 911, I found more fun to drive than the Cayman S. I do like the GT-3 LOOKS over all the other 911's though.

Z_ealot 02-07-2016 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3406925)
There's NOTHING raw about a Cayman. A Cayman is very dialed in, very predictable, engaging in the most simplified sense of the word. There are extremely rare man against machine moments in the Cayman so to speak, taking away the title of raw in the experience.
The Z is raw because it is dialed in, and mostly predictable, but can get away on you if you're not careful. The Cayman electronics really keep you regulated. You may as well be driving AWD is so computer regulated. But the fact that you can get around corners at such high speeds kind of makes up for the lack of involvement that is provided with the Z. The Z, is a rambunctious, fairly light for its power level vehicle that has muscle car rawness with sports car ability. Just slower than a muscle car and edgier than the finer sports options available. That lack of perfection is what makes a car raw.

Now that I've been driving a lot of higher end cars. It seems the cars that do the most work for you get the highest praise. And then brands than can balance driver involvement with technology like the GT-R get shunned. I don't know WHERE people got the idea the GT-R is soulless. It's incredible. My only issues with the GT-R is size, ride height and feels like you're sitting high. That's why now, after experiencing it I'm not sure I'd buy it, though the power and precision are addicting.
My favorite 911 is the GT-S because the GT-3 is boring on regular roads without breaking laws. If I was tracking a lot. Then I'd take the GT-3. But all you will hear about is the GT-3. Also the GT-S 911, I found more fun to drive than the Cayman S. I do like the GT-3 LOOKS over all the other 911's though.

There is a small minority of reviewers that are starting to come around to the fact that with all the electronics going in to performance cars these days it is taking away from the driving experience and that cars like the 370Z are part of a dieing breed and very special in their own right

kay.zee 02-07-2016 06:17 PM

I tried to convince my friend to get a 370z, he ended up with a Cayman S and dam is it nice. It sounds better than my car, shifts better. I still like how the Z look more but he ordered a crazy wing, suspension and expensive wheels. We'll see how it turns out. Dam that inline 6 or whatever sounds so much better than the Z at WOT.

Z_ealot 02-08-2016 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kay.zee (Post 3407034)
I tried to convince my friend to get a 370z, he ended up with a Cayman S and dam is it nice. It sounds better than my car, shifts better. I still like how the Z look more but he ordered a crazy wing, suspension and expensive wheels. We'll see how it turns out. Dam that inline 6 or whatever sounds so much better than the Z at WOT.

Cat back for the Z and done

kay.zee 02-08-2016 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3407176)
Cat back for the Z and done

fast intentions here... not even close to as sounding as good. I like the VQ engine and all but lets be real here its no inline 6 sound.

icormba 02-08-2016 01:39 AM

Got one of these at work too. Took this pic last week, looks like the guy just picked it up. NICE!!

http://www.the370z.com/members/icorm...e91104-gts.jpg

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3406925)
There's NOTHING raw about a Cayman. A Cayman is very dialed in, very predictable, engaging in the most simplified sense of the word. There are extremely rare man against machine moments in the Cayman so to speak, taking away the title of raw in the experience.
The Z is raw because it is dialed in, and mostly predictable, but can get away on you if you're not careful. The Cayman electronics really keep you regulated. You may as well be driving AWD is so computer regulated. But the fact that you can get around corners at such high speeds kind of makes up for the lack of involvement that is provided with the Z. The Z, is a rambunctious, fairly light for its power level vehicle that has muscle car rawness with sports car ability. Just slower than a muscle car and edgier than the finer sports options available. That lack of perfection is what makes a car raw.

Now that I've been driving a lot of higher end cars. It seems the cars that do the most work for you get the highest praise. And then brands than can balance driver involvement with technology like the GT-R get shunned. I don't know WHERE people got the idea the GT-R is soulless. It's incredible. My only issues with the GT-R is size, ride height and feels like you're sitting high. That's why now, after experiencing it I'm not sure I'd buy it, though the power and precision are addicting.
My favorite 911 is the GT-S because the GT-3 is boring on regular roads without breaking laws. If I was tracking a lot. Then I'd take the GT-3. But all you will hear about is the GT-3. Also the GT-S 911, I found more fun to drive than the Cayman S. I do like the GT-3 LOOKS over all the other 911's though.


Z_ealot 02-08-2016 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kay.zee (Post 3407177)
fast intentions here... not even close to as sounding as good. I like the VQ engine and all but lets be real here its no inline 6 sound.

You mean H6 ;)

UNKNOWN_370 02-08-2016 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by icormba (Post 3407179)
Got one of these at work too. Took this pic last week, looks like the guy just picked it up. NICE!!

http://www.the370z.com/members/icorm...e91104-gts.jpg

That torque kicks in at a much lower RPM on the GT-S over the GT-3. So you get more response out the engine in low speed driving. In my opinion, the GT-S is the most driver focused 911. So whoever bought that car, chose well...:tup:

TBatt 02-08-2016 09:18 AM

All in all, you have to admit that now is the best time to be a car enthusiast.

What were muscle cars back in the late 60's and early 70's are considered slow by today's performance levels. Today's cars will also turn and stop. Yes, today's car may have a bunch of electronic "nannies", but dang, they are fast!

I remember when cars such as the 930 Turbo was king. It was fast but it was also a handful to drive. When accelerating, the car was not all that fast until you hit 4K rpm and then all hell broke loose! Today's cars have way more power but are very controllable by comparison.

I'm glad that I get to experience what might be the golden age of the automobile!

mishuko 02-08-2016 11:03 AM

considering the late 90's and 2000's had very small fleet of sports cars in the affordable range it's been rough.

glad that now that I have some purchasing power there are a lot more cars on the market to compare and more coming down the pipeline.

ped 02-08-2016 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kay.zee (Post 3407034)
I tried to convince my friend to get a 370z, he ended up with a Cayman S and dam is it nice. It sounds better than my car, shifts better. I still like how the Z look more but he ordered a crazy wing, suspension and expensive wheels. We'll see how it turns out. Dam that inline 6 or whatever sounds so much better than the Z at WOT.

Are you comparing to your Z's stock exhaust? A Prius sounds better than a Z stock. Put an HKS Hi-Power, or ArmyTrix catback on your Z and then compare.

Magic Bus 02-08-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kay.zee (Post 3407034)
I tried to convince my friend to get a 370z, he ended up with a Cayman S and dam is it nice. It sounds better than my car, shifts better. I still like how the Z look more but he ordered a crazy wing, suspension and expensive wheels. We'll see how it turns out. Dam that inline 6 or whatever sounds so much better than the Z at WOT.

Regarding sound, are you talking about the sound from the inside of the car?

kay.zee 02-08-2016 07:54 PM

I'm talking about the exhaust note.. Its a little raspy but sounds way more race car status than the Z. The modified 370z exhaust note is not even close to as good sounding as even the regular VQ35 when that thing was turboed. I've also heard Fast Intentions twin turbo Z's and still expected more grunt and presence.


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