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BTW the Lotus Exige S is one of my favorites cars by far! :tup:

Fun Facts
 

I crunched some numbers just for my entertainment and thought I would share them with you.

370Z Base (non Nismo):
Displacement - 226 cubic inches
Horse Power - 332
= 1.46 HP/CI
Weight - 3232 Lb
= 9.73 Lb/HP

370Z Nismo:
Displacement - 226 cubic inches
Horse Power - 350
= 1.55 HP/CI
Weight 3232 (?)
= 9.23 Lb/HP

2015 Mustang GT 5.0:
Displacement - 302 cubic inches
Horse Power - 435
= 1.44 HP/CI
Weight - 3810 Lb
= 8.75 Lb/HP

The "old" VQ37HR engine produces MORE HP per cubic inch than the new Coyote 5.0

The 'Stang has a better power to weight ratio.

Performance advantage goes to the Mustang until you reach a corner. The lighter weight of the Z will give it a handling advantage. YMMV

Fun Facts
 

I'm pretty sure the Mustang would win a drag race but the Z would win an autocross. At least that is what is happening around here.

Lots of factors involved, especially driver skills.

Z driver - "I did pretty good on that run"

Mustang driver - "somebody hold my beer, hey yaw, watch this!"

This points to why even an NA Z35 would be awesome. In 2009, the Mustang still had the 4.6L worth 315HP, now they're pushing out more with a more advanced engine that weighs roughly the same.

Then you have the Japanese manufacturers innovating structural design: the new Mazda 6 sedan weighs a couple hundred pounds less than our Zs and is quite a bit larger. Same with the Accord sedan. Look at the new Miata weighing almost nothing comparatively.

Really, Ford should have made a new Capri based off the Mustang that was smaller and had the 2.7L V6 from the F-series. That would be more of a Z competitor.

it's also a lot more raw than every other car on the market. but yes... they do make great power to weight ratio

I liked the previous front design with the more nostalgic look. the new one is kinda eh.

I did like the rear tail lights and how the blinkers moved as you indicated. that was neat

Forget HP....do what Colin Chapman always advocated. "Add lightness". My only complaint with the Z is it weighs too much.

I don't find my 2013 Touring with Sports pkg and all options to be dated in the slightest. The only thing I'd see needing updates are the nav screen/audio interfaces to include Android/Apple updates.

But why? Yes, they're cool looking. But compared to everything today those cars are slow, poor-handling, crappy brakes. I think once the generation who is currently robbing their retirement accounts to bid up these types of 1960s and 70s cars are gone, the prices on these will plummet like a rock.

to me that's the best looking mustang, period. also, i highly doubt that their price will plummet.

:iagree:

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

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"We" are "Inside" many things. And with the amount of hours I put in at work, I figure I probably make about $19.00 an hour. :bowrofl:

Added some price comparisons...
I didn't include the GT350R because it's out of price range for all 3 here and very hard to get, unless you are Jay Leno and a couple other guys I know.

Don't get me wrong, I am and always will be a Z guy... but these American cars aren't "just" muscle anymore.

That flat-plane 5.2 is amazing... I wish Nissan would get their $h*t together like Ford has finally done. Can you imagine what would happen if you threw boost at that monster?:eek:

Ford Releases Final Details On The GT350's Insane 5.2-Liter Engine


Think they'll make a swap kit for the Z anytime soon?:bowrofl:

Hennessey Performance | 2016 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350 HPE800 Supercharged Upgrade

And Lethal Performance slapped a SC on a 5.0 Coyote and ran 1/4 in 9sec.

But I'm not interested in that... it's about going around a track with twists and turns. :happydance: Adding weight to the front end screws that up.

It always seems to be a cycle... starts with the Europeans, then the Japanese, until the Americans catch up. Right now it's the Americans. Everyone else needs to start again. It will happen... I think the Europeans will start with an affordable v6 with electric motor assist. Then the Japanese, hopefully Nissan, which leaves the Americans trying to play catch-up again. Over and Over... we get to reap the rewards!

I just want a raw driver car. The only thing like a Z is a Porsche Cayman. Nismo compares to a Cayman GT4. Personally, I hate the nanny gadgets on the Z. Traction control and the stupid stability control suck. I don't need the syncro rev match either. I can heal/toe just fine without it. Just my .02.