Decided on a Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track over the 370.. here is why.
 

Well the time finally came to sit down and buy my Z. The dealer was being.. well a dealer and started playing games with numbers that we had not agreed to and that he said he could get lower.

Anyway, walked out thinking I was going to go to the next nissan dealer. Decided to walk right next door to the hyundai dealership the whole time dismissing the Gen Coupe in my mind. Saw it in pics and it was ugly. Let me tell ya, in person it looks a helluva lot better especially the track model with the 19 inch wheels and red brembo's. Car comes with pretty much everything. Heated leather seats, Touch screen Nav, bluetooth, climate control, shift paddles, push button start, HID lights, limited slip dif, brembos, track suspension, 312 horsepower (with premium Fuel) and the list goes on all for $31,500. I was pretty amazed at the quality of this car and how well equipped it is for its price point.

Still I said, this thing probably drives like a heap of sh*t. Had to give it a good test drive. Took it out and surprise surprise this thing can move and takes the corners very nicely. The shift paddles are very responsive and the Brembos bring you to a stop in a hurry. Its a little harsh on the shitty jersey roads because of its track setup but that is to be expected. 0-60 comes in at about 5.8 seconds. Not quite as fast as the Z but honestly its still damn quick. It has a better exhaust sound then the Z also. A nice deep pur when you hit the gas. The Z is a bit harsh sounding. The interior is nicer then the Z. No doubt about it. Its immediately obvious when you get in, different league. I do wish that it had 25-30 more HP to match the Z in speed but those numbers are more bragging rights then anything because you cant even come close to pushing the Gen Coupe to its limits on the street. None the less, that extra 25 HP would help me match you guys on the track.

It all comes down to this, I love the 370z its a great car. But with the genesis coupe 3.8 track I get pretty much everything the Z has at almost 10 grand less!! I just could not justify the Z after driving the Genesis Coupe.

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Nice write-up on the Genesis.

I, too, looked into the Genesis Coupe. Even have a friend that could guarantee me a few hundred below invoice at a nearby dealership on it. But from the exterior alone, I could not choose it over the Z. It has some hideous lines on it that resemble the Tiburon, which is my vote for the ugliest car since 1990. I don't agree with you on the interior either...I prefer the Z.

I am definitely looking at Hyundai for my family car though, maybe the Santa Fe or Veracruz.

Cool. :tup:

Congrats on your new car!

Personally, I clicked with the Z. There wasn't much else I looked at from the "unpractical" side of things, the Mustang GT / GT500 being the above and below options...

If neither of those, I'd have gotten a new truck or a jeep.

see i think the tiburon looks like a piece of garbage. it looks nothing like a tiburon to me. especially the track model. did you see a track model or a base model?

i would agree 100% though that this car is not camera friendly. looks like absolute crap in every picture i have seen of it. lol

Glad you got what you wanted!
I have read that, minus power/straight line, the Genesis is pretty competitive with the Z.

at least you didn't crash the Genesis on the test drive... ;)

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Did not know the gen coupe had nav yet? Also thought it was not going to be in the track model?
The issue I had with the gen coupe after testing driving a Z then moving to the gen coupe, the coupe is definitely slower in all aspects. Not a huge deal when you look at the price, but considering I paid 31,500 and just lost the luxury features I think I came out ahead.

The Hyundai folks are actively courting the tuner crowd and factory support and dealer support for mods [wink, wink] should be better than the Nissan. Might not be true if the motors start popping when the wick is turned up, but this engine is well-known in its other guises, and should be fairly reliable.

Anyway, the point is you can make it faster than a stock Z without spending huge amounts, so if straight-line performance is your bag, it might be a pretty good buy.

For my own sake, I appreciate the racing heritage and strong sports car roots of the Z, and frankly I just think it looks much better. But that is my choice, and in no way says that your choice was bad.

Enjoy your new ride!

yea, came out with Nav in august.

you got the sport model Z for 31,500? limited slip dif, wheels, spoiler etc..? i assume so because you said "lost the luxury features".

if so that is a great deal.

yea, they have already tuned the 3.8 V6 up to 400 whp.

thats not my thing though. i like the car as is.

Yep, base with sport, I was offered a track 2009 gen coupe with whatever it came with in 2009 for 28,500. The guy was not pushy about it at all and it got me thinking, but after the test drive I told him flat out the Z just took it away with the performance. He was not upset, and agreed, but the gen coupe is a solid competitor and at the cheap price it gives you plenty of room to do anything you want.

Smart buy man, I certainly think the Genesis is a sweet ride. Unfortunately car buyers have really long memories so Hyundai is still frowned upon by the uninformed but I really do think the Genesis is a worthy competitor to our beloved Z and once we as consumers get over ourselves (myself included), more buyers of our ilk will seriously consider the Hyundai product.

There is no excuse for the green color though.

Early in the year when sales were low and stock was high a lot of us got the base w/sport for between 30500 and 31900. I got mine for 30800.

However with the Genesis if you can get Nav and all the other goodies such as brakes, real diff, suspension (oil cooler?) for 31500 then that is a great deal.

you got a helluva deal, the Z i was comparing the gen coupe to was fully loaded and it was like 40k.

agreed. when people ask me what kind of car it is. i say "genesis coupe". not hyundai. :roflpuke2:

they have changed my mind though with the 2 genesis models.

Yep, with a touring sport z with nav you are looking at 38-40k which is a huge step, but if you just want the power and no luxury you can lower that price easily. Plus I have plans to re-do the seats anyways so I did not want to drop the extra money and then down the road replace or mess with the seats.

yea, the z i was looking at was the touring plus sport package and they had it marked around 40k. crazy.

not sure if the gen coupe has an oil cooler but i have been reading threads with guys taking them out on track days and havent seen anything with oil temp issues.

This is a perfect car for a professional race car driver like yourself. The fact that you didn't wreck it on the test drive was a definite plus for both you and the salesman... Have fun...See ya!

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:bowrofl: i dont like the way the gray looks either.

i got mine in white. the gun metal 19 inch wheels with the red brembos look pretty damn good.

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Hyundai has come a long way. I worked there for a short period a few years ago and witnessed a signifcant effort to leave the reputation of the past behind them and move forward with better products. I am happy that they have improved their product line to the point that they are no longer considered a low cost, disposable car alternative to the other asian OEMs.

Costco had a Genesis coupe on display a few weeks ago and I checked it out for a few minutes. It's a good looking car that looked like it could deliver. Not my complete cup of tea ultimately but I can see why you bought it. Sorry to hear the Nissan dealer jerked you around but congrats on your new car. Enjoy!

31500? thats what I paid for my Base + sport Z...

point? the z i was looking at was touring + sport for around 40k.

congrats on the Gen!! enjoy it to your fullest..

not a terrible car, but I still confuse them with recent model tiburons... That and they're fat pigs, regardless of how much power they make, reminds me of the challenger. Good deal though.

THE POINT - is that I find it funny you were looking at a touring + sport lol... do you wanna tour? do you wanna sport? hahaha... Honestly.. the base Z + sports is all you really need... THE ONLY THING I REGRET about the base is the lack of heated seats... its a sports car.. you are not going to be changing the seat positions... you dont need bluetooth- ******* drive the car not have a car-ference... seriously... you get a Z cus you want a car that makes you grin wider than the turn you just took 3x faster than the car behind you... Good luck w/ the genisis... I would have gotten the 2.0T if I were about to track it... And Im sorry to say this but the fact of the matter is... a Z is more of a track car than a genisis... you will end up spending FAR more than an oil cooler in your geni if you wanna track it...

I looked at the Genesis as well. Congrats on your new car, I don't mean to say your decision is bad. I would rather spend 10k more for a Z with the same options tho.

See I feel I didnt need the sports model but wanted the touring. The bigger brakes on the sports are nice but not really needed, stock brakes work very well. LSD from what I hear isnt that great and an aftermarket one will be much better but youll have to pay for it and unless you are tracking its not really needed. Got the 7AT so rev sync is N/A. Love the heated seats, homelink, bluetooth, power seats, and yes even the Bose as its pretty good for what I need. Plus got them to throw in the spoiler for free. But as you can see its subjective according to each person.

Maybe i am a ricer but i like how the Tiberons looks. I love how the gensis looks. If i wasnt such a Z fan boy and my 350z wasnt so dam good to me i would probably be driving a gen coupe.

one less Z on the street is :tup:

heh, settle down bud, you just described personal preference, maybe what you like isn't what he likes? And he has a better car for the money (Besides power) than you do. Thats why you cant compare your car to his. You have to compare a loaded 370z with his loaded genesis. I dont care if you paid 10k less than him, its not the same if you don't have the same options.

I would personally not mind getting the Genesis coupe. I did consider it and strongly thought about purchasing it so that I would have 10k more in my bank.

in the long run I chose against it because the name "Hyundai" has not become known for reliability "yet". They are on the right road, and They will probably surpass many of the best brands out there soon, but until it happens....

good luck in your new car!

Car looks darn good in this pic but as soon as you see the head lights and front bumper......... The thought changes



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I traded my 350z for a Genesis Coupe V6 and after about 6 months I traded the Genesis in for my 370. It's definitely a nice car for the money, but as time went on, I became more and more disappointed in the performance of the Gen. Not that the performance is bad, but I guess I was just expecting more. Having driven both, the Z betters the Genesis in pretty much every performance metric. That being said, the Genesis does have a lot of potential, so congrats on the purchase.

A tad OT... I notice the new McLaren is taking some cues from the Genesis Coupe. I don't think anyone can go wrong with the Genesis Coupe. It is leagues ahead of the Tiburon. That's quite an evolution.

IMO, I don't think the 350Z and 370Z has much "Z" passion put into it compared to the 300ZX and prior generations. However, I do get a better sense of "Z" passion in the 370Z than the 350Z. The NISMO 350Z had some sort of passion put into it, but I don't quite see much effort with the NISMO 370Z. Look at the previous generation GT-Rs and the NISMO variants... now that's something worth owning.

Ya know that the Tiburon was a Pininfarina design right? I've looked the the Tiburon, I think I'm bias against it because it is a Hyundai, but a closer look at the exterior, it is not a bad looking car

I too considered the Genesis, but couldn't be happier with my Z. Good luck and congrats!

I looked at the gen coupe....but could NOT get past the fact that its still a Hyundai. Maybe that makes me an elitist a$$? I don't know...but I just could not pull the trigger on a Hyundai....ever...or a Kia...

Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion and is based on real feelings I had when cross shopping cars. Just being honest. I'm not saying its right :)

Agreed. Spend a year in Korea, you wont want to be near anything Hyundai, Kia, Daewoo, Ssangyong, Samsung, LG, the list goes on, EVERY car on the street is a hyundai.