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PhantaPhanta 07-30-2015 12:04 AM

Pulled and ticketed for tinted windows
 
Cleared.

Knio 07-30-2015 01:05 AM

I had a friend successfully fight this (write in) because the cop didn't measure the tint, so you could try that.

On the other hand, if you really have no tint, you could just pay the $ to get the fixit signed, isn't it pretty cheap?

Zbrah 07-30-2015 01:19 AM

Where was this? I never had any issues for my tint and they're dark, 15% plus no front plate since forever.

Joker_J 07-30-2015 01:30 AM

I had the same issue with a cop when I had my first car lol
Had a 2006 BMW 330i and a cop pulled me over for speeding.
His question, "Is this really your car" hahahaha
He even got the car model and color wrong on the ticket lmao

PhantaPhanta 07-30-2015 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knio (Post 3271023)
I had a friend successfully fight this (write in) because the cop didn't measure the tint, so you could try that.

On the other hand, if you really have no tint, you could just pay the $ to get the fixit signed, isn't it pretty cheap?

Did he have to let them inspect the car or they just threw the ticket out the door? Yeah its $50 for paperwork + the fine total. I'm in a pickle and every dollar saves atm.

PhantaPhanta 07-30-2015 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3271024)
Where was this? I never had any issues for my tint and they're dark, 15% plus no front plate since forever.

San Jose. I definitely think he was just trying to meet his quota as its close to end of the month. Kinda fked up that he chose the Z out of all the cars that went past him.

It was obvious he didn't care but just wanted to meet quota. Just tried to get everything done quick and fined me for the tints.

onzedge 07-30-2015 04:19 AM

When you tint your side windows in California and also choose to run without a front plate, then you are at constant risk of being pulled over and you should accept that risk as well as be prepared to pay the price.

Each of these is a motor vehicle infraction. Both of these conditions are easy to spot and do not require any effort (like measuring speed) on the officer's part.

Anyway... This reminds me of one of my sons when he was 16 and got his first ticket in one of my Z's. "I was profiled!!!" he said. I asked why he said that and he replied that he has long hair, is young and driving a sports car. I asked him how fast he was going and he said 85. I then asked if he was going faster than everyone else and he said he was.

I then agreed that he was profiled and pointed out that the CHP profiles people who are obviously speeding. I told him to man up and accept the consequences.

POS VETT 07-30-2015 05:30 AM

Being profiled by police is a fact of life, accept it.

Now, regarding the window tint, get a note from your optometrist, make a copy for each car you own with tinted windows, and keep a notarized copy in each. For this time around, see if the note can still be used to have the ticket written off.

Please, stop using racial card. I'm Asian too and your attempt is embarrassing.

RonRizz 07-30-2015 05:42 AM

When you say you were asked repeatedly about ownership of the car............................................... .
According to your video "evidence" he asked you only twice if you owned the car. the second time was right after he asked you for the second time for your registration, which you apparently did not hand him along with your other info.

Sorry, guy, I don't see anything here that would indicate he is a hater of either Asians, or the 370z. All I see is a disgruntled driver pissed because he couldn't hide his illegal window tint from the police.
Window tint laws are in place for a reason (although I don't personally agree with it, and have one of my own vehicles tinted) But if I get caught, I'm not gonna bitch and moan, and cry "profiling" or any other BS about it, I'm just gonna have it removed, as the law dictates, and move on.
You gotta pay the price to play the game.

onzedge 07-30-2015 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kynseon (Post 3271146)
Take it to court bro. Most of the time they will just let it slide. Its stupid. And advise.. you might have to fix your windows but you don't lose anything by fighting back. try to delay your court date for like a friday and sometimes the cop wont even show..

Thank you for being an example of one of the many things wrong with our society.

Man up. When you are wrong, own it. Where is the accountability and responsibility?

I weep for those who spend their energy trying to cheat and lie.

zero 07-30-2015 05:59 AM

Lucky that you did not get shot liked the man in Cincinnati.

PhantaPhanta 07-30-2015 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 3271145)
When you say you were asked repeatedly about ownership of the car............................................... .
According to your video "evidence" he asked you only twice if you owned the car. the second time was right after he asked you for the second time for your registration, which you apparently did not hand him along with your other info.

Sorry, guy, I don't see anything here that would indicate he is a hater of either Asians, or the 370z. All I see is a disgruntled driver pissed because he couldn't hide his illegal window tint from the police.
Window tint laws are in place for a reason (although I don't personally agree with it, and have one of my own vehicles tinted) But if I get caught, I'm not gonna bitch and moan, and cry "profiling" or any other BS about it, I'm just gonna have it removed, as the law dictates, and move on.
You gotta pay the price to play the game.

Do you read anything before typing? Or you'really one of those ignorant guys on Facebook that tries to sound like a smart ***? The officer is limited to only asking me ownership twice because in the video he gave me the ticket already right? Because from the time at the end of the trimmed video till the time I left, no way could he have slipped in more words with me right? And there's no oo way I would set my dashcam setting to record in 3 min interval am I right?

I don't know what's up your *** bro but I came to get info, not to get lectured on what's right and wrong, sherlock. If I needed parenting on morals, you'd be the last person i'd call.

Honestly I could go on some more but judging from what we have so far of you, it's not worth it.

PhantaPhanta 07-30-2015 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS VETT (Post 3271130)
Being profiled by police is a fact of life, accept it.

Now, regarding the window tint, get a note from your optometrist, make a copy for each car you own with tinted windows, and keep a notarized copy in each. For this time around, see if the note can still be used to have the ticket written off.

Please, stop using racial card. I'm Asian too and your attempt is embarrassing.

Maybe it was profiling, maybe it wasnt, only he knows. As to why I'm angry... think of it like this. Sure, I won't argue the license plate, but when you get pulled over for your front windows being tinted when... they were rolled down, then... that's a little suspicious.

SouthArk370Z 07-30-2015 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 3271145)
According to your video "evidence" ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantaPhanta (Post 3271194)
Do you read anything before typing? Or you'really one of those ignorant guys on Facebook that tries to sound like a smart ***?

One could ask you the same questions. RonRizz prefaced his statement as quoted above. ;)

You broke the law, you got caught, quit whining about it and pay the fine. As the Beretta theme song said, "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time."

onzedge 07-30-2015 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3271216)
One could ask you the same questions. RonRizz prefaced his statement as quoted above. ;)

You broke the law, you got caught, quit whining about it and pay the fine. As the Beretta theme song said, "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time."

:iagree:

mishuko 07-30-2015 08:26 AM

based on previous posts it would seem no front plates and tinted side windows are infractions in cali.

know the laws before you break them because if you claim ignorance then they are gonna hammer you like little johnnie will when you drop the soap in a state pen.

SouthArk370Z 07-30-2015 08:34 AM

The fact that he rolled the windows down when he spotted the cop (see first post in this thread) leads me to believe his tint is not legal. YMMV

Did the cop follow proper procedure? Probably not (I'm not familiar with CA law). But it's not like he made up some bogus charges, either. If you don't want to display a front plate, move to a state that doesn't require one. Same for tint. If ya wanna play, ya gotta pay.

zmanelite 07-30-2015 08:38 AM

I love kids nowadays, society has taught them it's never their fault and being bullied

It sucks but just pay the ticket and get the car fixed

onzedge 07-30-2015 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmanelite (Post 3271273)
I love kids nowadays, society has taught them it's never their fault and being bullied

It sucks but just pay the ticket and get the car fixed

:iagree:

onzedge 07-30-2015 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kynseon (Post 3271251)
Many things wrong with society? Sometimes cops dont follow procedures.. such as not checking the tinted windows to see if they are even legal or illegal. Youve done nothi g wrong with taking it to court. Just like when you get a speeding ticket and the cop never shot you with the laser.. ive taking it to court and won.. never dine anything wrong. I wasnt even speeding and he gave me a ticket.
When you are wrong yeah man up i am not saying you shouldnt .. in this case the cop didnt check his tinted windows.

I made a few simple and true statements and was not inviting or provoking a debate. I would love to engage further with you but I fall back on a piece of wisdom my father imparted on me when I was very young – much younger than you are currently – and it is this:

Son, never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent; it’s just bad form.

onzedge™ has written…

wanker 07-30-2015 10:07 AM

In California any aftermarket tint on the front driver and passenger side windows is illegal. Period. Furthermore, any vehicle code violation is sufficient grounds for a police officer to stop you, no matter how trivial. Thus, you're welcome to fight the ticket in court and lose.

FWIW, window tint violations are rather cheap (typically a fix it ticket). So many people simply remove their tint, get the removal signed off at the local police station, and then reinstall it. In fact, in my neck of the woods one of the most popular window tint places in literal right up the street from a Sheriff substation for this very reason.

Masterbeatty 07-30-2015 10:09 AM

My old car, I was haggled all the time in san diego for tints but as soon as they saw that I was active duty and the tints I had were legal for my state of residency they walked away with their heads down.

Rule of thumb, if your pulled over for dumb crap like tints or license plate, the cops usually had some other reason to pull you over but had no proof. Like you were hooning but they weren't clocking, or its late at night and they are looking for a DUI.

SouthArk370Z 07-30-2015 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3271309)
I made a few simple and true statements and was not inviting or provoking a debate. I would love to engage further with you but I fall back on a piece of wisdom my father imparted on me when I was very young – much younger than you are currently – and it is this:

Son, never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent; it’s just bad form.

onzedge™ has written…

:roflpuke2: :bowrofl: :p :icon17: :tup:

enguyen88 07-30-2015 10:59 AM

Damn, I have no plates and a tinted windshield. Haven't been pulled over yet. I'm in Sacramento btw.

Chuck33079 07-30-2015 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enguyen88 (Post 3271416)
a tinted windshield.

:confused:

Isn't that a bad idea? Or do you never drive at night?

Zbrah 07-30-2015 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3271452)
:confused:

Isn't that a bad idea? Or do you never drive at night?

He's Asian. We don't know differences between windshield and windows. Heck only some of us could barely drive straight :rofl2:

enguyen88 07-30-2015 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3271452)
:confused:

Isn't that a bad idea? Or do you never drive at night?

It's only 70%. Makes driving at night a little easier actually. I don't get blinded by all the SUVs and trucks. The Z isn't a daily driver either.

birdman71 07-30-2015 12:00 PM

Well the no front license plate is just all based on personal preference. Honestly if you don't have it and get caught, it's done there is no fixing it really quick like rolling down your windows once you see the cop.

Rolling down your windows after passing the cop like you said was probably the wrong thing to do because at that point it seems as if you are trying to hide it.
As for the police officer not measuring the tint, of course that can always be fought against. Kind of like a cop saying that you shot someone but didn't fingerprint the gun for evidence and you took the gun with you when the officer left.

I do agree with zedge and gale and every one that if you get caught for something like this than don't make it about anything racial or anything profiling and just pay your dues and move on from it. You obviously did something that the officer did not like or though was suspicious. Hell for all you know he saw you before you passed him, saw the license plate, and the window tint and then saw you rolling the windows down while passing him. Pretty rational reason to be pulled over.

Yes license plate and tint is probably a quota ticket at the end of the month, but in a sense you kind of provoked it.

I have no front license plate and have my windows tinted at 20%, the no front license plate and slight window tint can give the same impression to an officer, plus the fact that I am 20 years old gives them another reason. Plus my car is not the quietest lol.
I have also never passed a cop going faster than the speed limit in this car. I will wait for them to be going slow enough and them wanting me to pass. Like if the speed limit was 35 and he was going 30, at that point I'd pass but I wouldn't do it fast but gradually showing control over the vehicle.

If the cop and I are going about the same speed I will sit close to his blind spot to avoid my missing front license plate being seen.

I do try and do my best to avoid being pulled over as much as possible:
1. To not have to deal with any harassment
2. To not have to pay a fine
3. I've learned to spot any cop in a humanely possible field of view (night or day)

If I do get caught and pulled over (knock on wood) then I will just handle what needs to be with the officer and then do what I need to do to get it handled by me.

Simple as that. :tup:

mishuko 07-30-2015 12:01 PM

i refuse to tint my windows so people can see the giant smile on my face when i drive my car.

makes them jelly they are driving the stupid prius or some eco-crap-box

cigarclifford 07-30-2015 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3271529)
i refuse to tint my windows so people can see the giant smile on my face when i drive my car.

makes them jelly they are driving the stupid prius or some eco-crap-box

I with you on this one Mr Mishuko :iagree:

no tinted windows on my Nismo :iagree:

-Clifford :tiphat:

2011 Nismo#91 07-30-2015 01:07 PM

According to the California Highway Patrol (CHP), there are three (3) main legal restrictions for window tint on a car in the State of California:
1) Front windows cannot have after-market tint.
2) Front Windshield cannot have after-market tint.
3) If the rear window (rear windshield) receives aftermarket tint, the vehicle must have exterior rear view mirrors on both the left and right sides of the vehicle.

No need to measure tint, any tint is illegal on the front. OP fail for not knowing state laws.
If you want to have as little issues when pulled over. Before the office even gets to you car have your engine and radio off, your license registration and proof of insurance in hand, and both hand on the top of the steering wheel. At that point you never even have to say a word to them.

JC-Nismo 07-30-2015 04:01 PM

Know the law.......
If you break it, pay the law.
Don't give them any reasons especially if you black cause there slaughtering us like cattle and getting away with it. The only word I use with the cops is "Yes, No and OK".
Your tint is illegal..............."OK"
I need your license ............"OK"
Gonna write you a ticket......"OK"
Have you been drinking........"NO"
Is your licence valid............."YES"
Everything checks out, have a nice day, "OK"

birdman71 07-30-2015 04:14 PM

:iagree:

Exactly how I handle the police too whenever I get pulled over.

ShutokuZ 07-30-2015 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3271797)
Know the law.......
If you break it, pay the law.
Don't give them any reasons especially if you black cause there slaughtering us like cattle and getting away with it. The only word I use with the cops is "Yes, No and OK".
Your tint is illegal..............."OK"
I need your license ............"OK"
Gonna write you a ticket......"OK"
Have you been drinking........"NO"
Is your licence valid............."YES"
Everything checks out, have a nice day, "OK"

As a former LEO, I agree with what you have said. In any situation regarding getting pulled over, it is better to just say the minimum required. Less the LEO can use against you, and less to change his demeanor. If the LEO decided not to write you a ticket, your bad attitude can change that in a hurry so why screw yourself?

JC-Nismo 07-30-2015 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShutokuZ (Post 3271835)
As a former LEO, I agree with what you have said. In any situation regarding getting pulled over, it is better to just say the minimum required. Less the LEO can use against you, and less to change his demeanor. If the LEO decided not to write you a ticket, your bad attitude can change that in a hurry so why screw yourself?

Very true, not all cops are bad, in fact the majority of them are great guys and gals, but like anything else all there gonna trend are the bad cops and not the ones who will change a tire on the side on a busy freeway for a mother with a van full of soccer kids or the cop in my subdivision who locks down the streets and have his buddys come over off duty to make sure our kids are safe while they trick or treat during Halloween. Cops deal with a lot, I get that and so do civilians, it's all about respect and that needs to be established on both sides. The cop in this case was very professional and although the OP didn't like the outcome, the officer in question did his job.

birdman71 07-30-2015 04:52 PM

:iagree:

I couldn't have said it better.

I know 2 people personally who I have known for closer to 11 years now, one is a CHP and one was a detective and then moved to CHP. Both are great guys in and out of the uniform. I say that because I have run into them while on duty before and seen how they are with others as well as myself.

It's all about the respect being held for the other person.

Think of the UFC: their objective is to kick the living crap out of the other person in the ring, but 9 times out of 10, almost 10/10. What do you see when the fight is over or the bell has rung in between rounds? The respect the fighters have for each other.

Duc_Z09 07-30-2015 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3271529)
i refuse to tint my windows so people can see the giant smile on my face when i drive my car.

makes them jelly they are driving the stupid prius or some eco-crap-box

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarclifford (Post 3271533)
I with you on this one Mr Mishuko :iagree:

no tinted windows on my Nismo :iagree:

-Clifford :tiphat:

Exactly the reason I have (illegal) 20% tint; I was sick of people gawking in at me all the time. No hassles yet because to actually have a cop say something about your tint you usually have to be doing something like speeding, and then lip off to him for good measure.

Of course some cops are dicks, but I haven't had the misfortune of meeting one yet.

ShutokuZ 07-30-2015 06:16 PM

IMHO Most cops will not pull you over for the sole reason of tint. Most of the time that infraction is attached to another higher infraction such as what happened to the OP with no front plate. The reason why the OP got a "fix it" ticket is because the cop did not run a tint meter and knew it could get thrown out in court. Most cops do not even carry one in their cars anyways.

birdman71 07-30-2015 06:28 PM

:iagree:

They usually have the speed gun and that is it. And most of the time the gun isn't calibrated correctly to be used to give a ticket anyhow.

A lot of people just are like well he got me on the speed gun, it must be right. Not always. But if he has the certificate of calibration for the gun, well then by all means write me up a ticket and I will pay it and do traffic school lol

rooftop 07-30-2015 06:38 PM

That sucks


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