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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 251375)

Here we go. Let's go ahead and put it out there now. DRIVER'S RACE. BOTTOM LINE. A Camaro will not "crap all over you" in your Z.

"Driver's race" is far too common of an excuse. Yes, a driver's capability makes a significant difference, but how far do you want to take that? An automatic Accord or Camry will stay right next to a bogged and mis-shifted STi from a dig to about 70 MPH. Is that a "driver's race" too?

The SS has enough of an acceleration advantage over the Z to where the outcome would be clear with both drivers of the same competency level. In outright acceleration, as in from a 60 MPH roll, an SS should walk away from a Z. Their trap-speed advantage is evidence of that, on top of the huge discrepancy in 0-140+ acceleration.

I am in no way "taking sides" with the Camaro. I've obviously made a choice of the Z over the Camaro for many...I'm just not blinded by my own bias. I'm a realist.

The only thing better about the camaro is the engine. Everything else is better about the Z. The camaro engine fits perfectly in the Z.

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 251913)

http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...70-suicide.gif

:iagree: :roflpuke2:

I've noticed more new Camaro's than 370's around here!

in 5 months I have owned my Z I have seen many Camaro's than the Z, in my area...

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 251903)

An automatic Accord or Camry will stay right next to a bogged and mis-shifted STi from a dig to about 70 MPH. Is that a "driver's race" too?

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 251913)

http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...70-suicide.gif

After that sentence there I agree with you Frost. Welp see you guys later.....

However to get back on topic. I have seen a decent amount of SS's around me. I must say, they do sound pretty damn great. Actually compared to the V6 I have seen a lot more SS's running around.

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 251399)

"a sports car it is not", as you say. So why say i the same breath that it will beat a 370Z on a road course? Makes no sense.

From Car & Driver:

"Although looking over the long, beveled hood (of the SS) is a view every muscle-car fan will relish, the low roof, high waistline, and wall-like rear pillars make the car drive big (not good for twisty two-lanes), a complaint we also level at the Challenger.

And these specs tell me a competent driver in a 370Z on a road course will "crap all over" a Camaro SS:

<table><tbody><tr></tr><tr><td> Camaro SS
</td> <td> Manual </td> <td> Automatic </td></tr><tr> <td> Acceleration </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr> <td> 0-60 mph </td> <td> 4.8 sec </td> <td> 4.9 sec </td> </tr><tr> <td> 0-100 mph </td> <td> 10.8 sec </td> <td> 11.1 sec </td> </tr><tr> <td> 0-120 </td> <td> 15.4 sec </td> <td> 16.3 sec </td> </tr><tr> <td> 0-140 mph </td> <td> 21.7 sec </td> <td> 24.8 sec </td> </tr><tr> <td> 0-150 mph </td> <td> 26.2 sec </td> <td> -- </td> </tr><tr> <td> mile </td> <td> 13.3 sec @ 111 mph </td> <td> 13.4 sec @ 109 mph </td> </tr><tr> <td> 30-70 mph passing </td> <td> 6.3 sec </td> <td> 6.2 sec </td> </tr><tr> <td> Peak g </td> <td> 0.63 g </td> <td> 0.69 g </td> </tr><tr> <td> Braking </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr> <td> 70-0 mph </td> <td> 149 ft </td> <td> 153 ft </td> </tr><tr> <td> Peak g </td> <td> 1.12 </td> <td> 1.1 </td> </tr><tr> <td> Cornering </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr> <td> L </td> <td> 0.94 g </td> <td> -- </td> </tr><tr> <td> R </td> <td> 0.93 g </td> <td> -- </td> </tr><tr> <td> Weight </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr> <td> Curb Weight </td> <td> 3859 lbs </td> <td> 3896 lbs </td> </tr><tr> <td> Distribution (percent f/r) </td> <td> 52.2/ 47.8 </td> <td> 52.3/47.7 </td> </tr><tr> <td> Speed in Gears </td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr><tr> <td> 1st </td> <td> 52 mph </td> <td> 38 mph </td> </tr><tr> <td> 2nd </td> <td> 76 mph </td> <td> 64 mph </td> </tr><tr> <td> 3rd </td> <td> 110 mph </td> <td> 99 mph </td> </tr><tr> <td> 4th </td> <td> 157 mph (limited) </td> <td> 131 mph </td> </tr><tr> <td> 5th </td> <td> 157 mph (limited) </td> <td> 157 mph (limited) </td> </tr><tr> <td> 6th </td> <td> 140 mph </td> <td> 140 mph</td></tr></tbody></table>

6th gear slower? is it just too tall of an overdrive? (to get better gas mileage, I assume?)

You need to photoshop a horrible accident at the end of the thread direction arrow. That would be much more accurate.

ill usually see a handful of new camaros daily whereas i only see a Z if im looking at my car