Oil temp question

GZ3 · 06-12-2015, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

having oil cooler > not having oil cooler.

it's like walking in rain with no umbrella vs walking in rain with umbrella with a few holes in it, not the best umbrella but still gives you that much more coverage from the rain.

Thats is true haha i wouldnt call the oil cooler a full unbrella though, in nissan's case of the stock oil cooler i would say its a hand full of papers over your head in a thunderstorm

SouthArk370Z · 06-12-2015, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

sidebar question:

the highest temp. my 09 Z has seen is right under 220. what is the safest temperature before the "danger" zone?

Most oils are good to 300 F or more. Limp mode (280 F, IIRC) will protect the engine. Keep oil temp between 210 and 260 F and you should be OK.

vtec to vvel · 06-12-2015, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

Thats is true haha i wouldnt call the oil cooler a full unbrella though, in nissan's case of the stock oil cooler i would say its a hand full of papers over your head in a thunderstorm

well-played on words choice for the analogy!

vtec to vvel · 06-12-2015, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Most oils are good to 300 F or more. Limp mode (280 F, IIRC) will protect the engine. Keep oil temp between 210 and 260 F and you should be OK.

gotcha, I wasn't sure, as I have been hearing mixed things. I have an 09 (no stock oil cooler), and every time I see the temps near 220, i usually panic.

I've noticed, though, that if i turn on the AC, it somewhat cools the temps down?

SouthArk370Z · 06-13-2015, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

I've noticed, though, that if i turn on the AC, it somewhat cools the temps down?

When you turn on the A/C, the car kicks on both radiator fans.

4TthAnnyZ · 06-13-2015, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

Amsoil seems to be great oil and doesnt sheer at high temp. I ran ss 5w30 in my 5.0 for 8k with over 30 passes at the track. Sent a sample off to blackstone and they said it was perfect, could have even put another 4k on it.

Anyway i couldnt wait... About to put my car on a lift and see if my 12 has the cooler on it

I switched to Amsoil signature 5w30 just a few weeks ago. I have noticed consistently lower oil temps by 10-15 degrees, even on 80* days, and I do not have an oil cooler. I will say that it takes much longer for my car to reach operating oil temp though.

Previously I was using Valvoline Synpower only because I get it for free. But I wasn't comfortable with it anymore.

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GZ3 · 06-13-2015, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 4TthAnnyZ

I switched to Amsoil signature 5w30 just a few weeks ago. I have noticed consistently lower oil temps by 10-15 degrees, even on 80* days, and I do not have an oil cooler. I will say that it takes much longer for my car to reach operating oil temp though.

Previously I was using Valvoline Synpower only because I get it for free. But I wasn't comfortable with it anymore.

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Good info, Im going to drain and fill with SS tonight. That oil can take a beating. Im curious what the redline users have to report with with temps.

Limeybastard · 06-15-2015, 01:14 AM

Ok so we established the 13 MY 370z came with a useless factory oil cooler. I am yet to see any major posts showing evidence that this "update/revision" reduces oil temp compared to prior Model Years.

onzedge · 06-15-2015, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk

To be clear, it looks like this picture shows a system that also has an external oil cooler installed.

Hear is a thread that shows the stock installation of the 2012 oil cooler.

Factory oil cooler

GZ3 · 06-16-2015, 10:13 AM

Ill find that damn Oil report, having to look through several usb's of mine smh

On another note, I ve decided to bypass amsoil and test redline because its more ester based oil

Push370zzz · 06-16-2015, 10:18 AM

Looks like you may have already gotten things figured out, but FWIW, I have a 13 with the factory oil cooler. I recently added a 25 row Stillen oil cooler and am using Mobil 1 5w-30. Prior to the oil cooler, I would hit 210-230 with spirited driving in town depending on ambient temp. Now, it will stay right at 180 on the highway, 190-200 with spirited driving regardless of outside temp.

On the track, I was out for sessions of 15 minutes each. I was flooring it through all but braking/corner entrances and temps never broke 255. I actually like keeping the factory oil cooler because it helps keep coolant/oil temps consistent and actually heats the oil up to operating temp much quicker. The factory oil cooler does have one drawback, which is that it makes it very difficult to route cooler lines and the oil filter is very difficult to access compared to normal. That said, it takes maybe 1 minute to remove the oil filter whereas before it was 15 seconds. Happy with everything thus far.

Push370zzz · 06-16-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Limeybastard

Ok so we established the 13 MY 370z came with a useless factory oil cooler. I am yet to see any major posts showing evidence that this "update/revision" reduces oil temp compared to prior Model Years.

It's really not useless, if anything it helps bring the car up to operating temperature quicker. Really it just helps keep the oil from getting too hot better than the 09-11 (though this is definitely a track band-aid). It won't really do much when your temps are between 190-220.

GZ3 · 06-16-2015, 02:22 PM

4 sessions at 15 minutes each and never breaking 260 is pretty amazing. Im excited to run redline after all the good press the corvette guys give it. Im hoping it will bring temps down a bit, but an oil cooler is in my future shortly

nis350 · 06-18-2015, 01:11 AM

Curious what is the upper limits for the dyno and full synthetic oil in general?

My 2010 is at around 200 - 210 during normal driving with outside temp around 80's.

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Most oils are good to 300 F or more. Limp mode (280 F, IIRC) will protect the engine. Keep oil temp between 210 and 260 F and you should be OK.

GZ3 · 06-18-2015, 09:54 AM

redline is the car. Everything feels smoother and the car revs easier. Temps seem to be cooler by about 10dg more than pennzoil ultra platinum. Tonight Im going to go drive it pretty hard and see where my temp end up

06-16-2015, 10:13 AM	#40 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	Ill find that damn Oil report, having to look through several usb's of mine smh On another note, I ve decided to bypass amsoil and test redline because its more ester based oil __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

06-16-2015, 10:18 AM	#41 (permalink)
Push370zzz Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NE Age: 39 Posts: 649 Drives: cars Rep Power: 16	Looks like you may have already gotten things figured out, but FWIW, I have a 13 with the factory oil cooler. I recently added a 25 row Stillen oil cooler and am using Mobil 1 5w-30. Prior to the oil cooler, I would hit 210-230 with spirited driving in town depending on ambient temp. Now, it will stay right at 180 on the highway, 190-200 with spirited driving regardless of outside temp. On the track, I was out for sessions of 15 minutes each. I was flooring it through all but braking/corner entrances and temps never broke 255. I actually like keeping the factory oil cooler because it helps keep coolant/oil temps consistent and actually heats the oil up to operating temp much quicker. The factory oil cooler does have one drawback, which is that it makes it very difficult to route cooler lines and the oil filter is very difficult to access compared to normal. That said, it takes maybe 1 minute to remove the oil filter whereas before it was 15 seconds. Happy with everything thus far. __________________ Range Rover Sport Supercharged Nissan 370z Touring + Sport

06-16-2015, 02:22 PM	#43 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	4 sessions at 15 minutes each and never breaking 260 is pretty amazing. Im excited to run redline after all the good press the corvette guys give it. Im hoping it will bring temps down a bit, but an oil cooler is in my future shortly __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

06-18-2015, 09:54 AM	#45 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	redline is the car. Everything feels smoother and the car revs easier. Temps seem to be cooler by about 10dg more than pennzoil ultra platinum. Tonight Im going to go drive it pretty hard and see where my temp end up __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

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