Nissan needs to do something

Zipper 104 · 05-13-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Akrobatik

I live in MA and all i see here are mustangs so i did a little research and it kinda mad me feel sad in the process. Im not going to lie these prices for that HP is pretty tempting. Nismo really should come with a turbo version, but then again.. the cost... I just dont know how they can compete with the domestic sports cars anymore.

Here is the MSRP on a few cars.

3.7L Nismo - 350HP - $41,990
5.7L Charger R/T -370HP - $32,995
6.4L Charger R/T Scat - 485HP $39,995
5.7L Challenger R/T - 375HP - $31,495
6.4L Challenger R/T Scat - 485HP $38,495
5.0L Mustang GT - 435HP - $32,300
2.3L Ecoboost Mustang - 310HP - $29,300

I don't consider any of the cars on your list as 'sports cars' with exception being the Nismo. Not an appropriate comparison.

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Z-Girl 12 · 05-13-2015, 02:22 PM

Reliability, resale value and seeing all the cars mentioned every 3 seconds is enough for me to pay extra and have less hp.

DLSTR · 05-13-2015, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12

Reliability, resale value and seeing all the cars mentioned every 3 seconds is enough for me to pay extra and have less hp.

YOU GO Z-GIRL AMEN!!! I now think this is the post of the year.....co shared with ONZEDGE!

Push370zzz · 05-13-2015, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12

Reliability, resale value and seeing all the cars mentioned every 3 seconds is enough for me to pay extra and have less hp.

This is on point. The Z isn't the most powerful, but I cannot imagine driving a Ford even if it's a little faster.

kenchan · 05-13-2015, 02:31 PM

if i drove those other cars id will look like im taking a bath out in public..

onzedge · 05-13-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

if i drove those other cars id will look like im taking a bath out in public..

I would rather not see that -- ever.

kenchan · 05-13-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

I would rather not see that -- ever.

i would be so embarrassed!

Z-Girl 12 · 05-13-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

I would rather not see that -- ever.

I would!!!

kenchan · 05-13-2015, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12

I would!!!

Davey · 05-13-2015, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12

I would!!!

Until you saw it once... Then you'd never want to see it again.

kenchan · 05-13-2015, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey

Until you saw it once... Then you'd never want to see it again.

benjamin..?

Jordo! · 05-13-2015, 02:50 PM

The Z's benchmark is a Porsche, not a Mustang or Camaro. It's not really intended to compete with the ponies.

The pony cars have always been about hp/$; its only recently that they've begun thinking about sportiness much beyond that.

jpkirk · 05-13-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

The Z's benchmark is a Porsche, not a Mustang or Camaro. It's not really intended to compete with the ponies.

The pony cars have always been about hp/$; its only recently that they've begun thinking about sportiness much beyond that.

Except that people do make that comparison because that is what is available to compare on the streets. And the Camaro SS 1LE/Mustang GT Performance Pack are actually fairly good handlers. They are still bloated.

The Porsche Cayman has upped the anti in hp over the last several years. The new Cayman GT4 will be pushing 380 hp.

All that said, I don't care. I love the Z experience, I love the total cost of ownership, and I love the fact that I can easily do work on it.

kenchan · 05-13-2015, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk

Except that people do make that comparison because that is what is available to compare on the streets. And the Camaro SS 1LE/Mustang GT Performance Pack are actually fairly good handlers. They are still bloated.

The Porsche Cayman has upped the anti in hp over the last several years. The new Cayman GT4 will be pushing 380 hp.

All that said, I don't care. I love the Z experience, I love the total cost of ownership, and I love the fact that I can easily do work on it.

me too, jp. i honestly dont like the look or sound of porches anyway. im more a ferrari kinda guy if going exotic.

im not sure where people get the idea that the Z is like a cayman, unless they've never actually driven one (like them dumbarse magazine spec-racers). almost nothing similar.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-13-2015, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

me too, jp. i honestly dont like the look or sound of porches anyway. im more a ferrari kinda guy if going exotic.

im not sure where people get the idea that the Z is like a cayman, unless they've never actually driven one (like them dumbarse magazine spec-racers). almost nothing similar.

The Z when in it's design phase... Nissan uses a PORSCHE CAYMAN to use as a benchmark for it's on paper stats. And it tries as hard as possible to give a similar level of performance. Of course the last and current iteration is course and unrefined, compared to a Porsche... Nissan is a FR platform while the Caymn is MR, but year one both cars got around the track in about the same time. The Z offering a visceral pro-driver experience while, the cayman glided through the track with ease...

The Z is designed to give you the on paper PORSCHE performance in a package thats similar in layout, function and form. Still each car gives a unique driving experience...

There's no way for me to say Anyything like this about a "Camastanger" when compared to a Z. Hence the Z being somewhat of a Porsche competitor.

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