Lowered Cars, Middle Fingers

Amj2020 · 04-18-2015, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

I honestly don't care about the people behind me - they can wait. And if they really piss me off, i'll take even more time. The way I see it: if something were to happen to your car, will they fix it?

I don't want to deal with the headache of them rear ending me because of stupidity and impatience ...

Amj2020 · 04-18-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N

I have to disagree with this whole argument. If you're being a selfish **** by taking up the whole road and inconveniencing others, no matter the degree. You're a d!ck. You're no better than the bimmer owners or the 4x4 pickup owners who seem to get so much flak on these forums for the same ****. If you are consciously slowing down traffic without due regard to others on the road then you're just being a self entitled SOB and I'm ashamed to share the community as you lot.

Now I care about my car and I'll do what I can to avoid damaging it, but I also do so in a way where I'm not inconveniencing others. I've also been on the other end of someone slowing to 5mph to go through a dip when coming off the highway. Not only do people miss the turn signal because of these dicks (even if you're not in a hurry, everyone has felt the frustration of missing one due to the incompetence of another driver), they're also causing an unsafe scenario by purposely going slower than the speed of normal traffic. So no, the behavior is not justified just because your car is precious to you. A little empathy for your fellow driver goes a long way. These are not your private road ways.

Not sure if you are directing those insults at me, I sure hope not. The worst way to drive is frustrated, so if you get behind the wheel and are upset over missing a turn signal or green light, maybe you need some therapy, or a less stressful job. Either way, not entirely sure what the issue is. I will do <5 turning off a four lane street (two going in my direction) when anyone can just as easily get around me, but choose to ram their car up my cars bumper while cursing, honking, and flipping me off.
Not sure what people have done to you in the past, but what I'm describing is hardly that...and yes, you will wait for my car to turn or progress at poorly paved intersections, potholes, uneven shopping mall entrances, speed bumps...At some of these places I even do this in my other cars (DD)because the roads are in such bad condition, but I care that I don't destroy my cars...others may not, but they are not MY problem...If the road is in good shape, no way I'm slowing down in the Z

vtec to vvel · 04-18-2015, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Amj2020

I don't want to deal with the headache of them rear ending me because of stupidity and impatience ...

huh? I'm talking about if you were to just pull in somewhere without slowing down, thus possibly damaging something from underneath your car, all because you didn't want to piss off the person behind you. i meant if you were damage your car, will the person behind you fix it.

Z1NONLY · 04-18-2015, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

I didn't say nor imply it in a bragging manner. It's one thing to be holding up traffic to where it's backing everyone up, but for the car behind the OP to wait a mere 10 seconds extra so that the OP can safely turn or pull into a parking lot, that's nothing.

Either you are holding people up or not. If you are holding other people up, THEY get to decide how valuable THEIR time is, not you.

They didn't force you to mod your car. They are not responsible for accommodating your modifications.

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What about those drivers whose cars aren't even lowered but go well below the speed limit that def. cause a traffic jam? Are they d*cks for wanting to go somewhere with extra precaution?

If they are causing a traffic jam, they are a problem. Yes.

Z1NONLY · 04-18-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ

I do not have a problem making people wait

This is simply a selfish mindset, no matter the rationalization.

It doesn't have to "hurt" them. When I make people wait, I have a problem with it. (particularly when it's just for my benefit)

vtec to vvel · 04-18-2015, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY

Either you are holding people up or not. If you are holding other people up, THEY get to decide how valuable THEIR time is, not you.

They didn't force you to mod your car. They are not responsible for accommodating your modifications.

Okay, what about school buses? My time is valuable and i get pissed whenever i have to wait for the school to go, esp. when i have to take a sh*t and/or hungry.
Either way, it's holding everyone up.

Public transportation. some people take forever getting on/off buses. With your logic, why should society have to accommodate them for not having vehicles? No one forced them to used public transportation.

LEO's - when officers/deputies switch on their emergency lights for whatever reason and start directing traffic, even though you have the green, isn't my time valuable? with your logic, why should i and society accommodate them?

If you are sitting at a light that just turned green and have the right of way, but you still have someone in a wheelchair in the crosswalk, that person is holding traffic up. with your logic, why should i and society accommodate them?

vtec to vvel · 04-18-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY

This is simply a selfish mindset, no matter the rationalization.

It doesn't have to "hurt" them. When I make people wait, I have a problem with it. (particularly when it's just for my benefit)

and your mindset is that you care way too much of what others think.

Z1NONLY · 04-18-2015, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

Okay, what about school buses? My time is valuable and i get pissed whenever i have to wait for the school to go, esp. when i have to take a sh*t and/or hungry.
Either way, it's holding everyone up.

Anything that stops in the path of traffic is bad. (including school buses)

However, School buses mitigate this with flashing lights that are pretty high up in plain view. First yellow, so everyone knows that it's going to stop, then red so everyone knows it's actually stopped.

A more accurate comparison would be not with the bus driver who's job it is to stop and let out children, but rather with a selfish child that meanders forever slowly across the street while making everyone wait.....just for them.

vtec to vvel · 04-18-2015, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY

Anything that stops in the path of traffic is bad. (including school buses)

However, School buses mitigate this with flashing lights that are pretty high up in plain view. First yellow, so everyone knows that it's going to stop, then red so everyone knows it's actually stopped.

A more accurate comparison would be not with the bus driver who's job it is to stop and let out children, but rather with a selfish child that meanders forever slowly across the street while making everyone wait.....just for them.

No, now you're talking about a totally different concept. See below your statement earlier: "Either you are holding people up or not...."

Whether school buses are lit up like a Christmas tree or not, it's still "holding people up".

Your comparison has nothing to do with the original point.

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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY

Either you are holding people up or not. If you are holding other people up, THEY get to decide how valuable THEIR time is, not you.

They didn't force you to mod your car. They are not responsible for accommodating your modifications.

If they are causing a traffic jam, they are a problem. Yes.

vtec to vvel · 04-18-2015, 03:22 PM

So I presume with your logic, you would say that the person in the wheelchair in the crosswalk would be selfish for holding up traffic? As a human being, I can wait the extra 30 seconds for them to safely cross, rather than being traumatized about witnessing that person being possibly struck and killed by another driver that couldn't "accommodate" them.

Z1NONLY · 04-18-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

and your mindset is that you care way too much of what others think.

I think you are confusing concern for other people's time with concern for other peoples thoughts.

vtec to vvel · 04-18-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY

I think you are confusing concern for other people's time with concern for other peoples thoughts.

Since people's time is such of a huge concern for you, let's say you're driving the speed limit, but the person behind you is late for work, and you're not going any faster to "accommodate" him, and time is of the essence. Since you are theoretically "holding" him up, would you consider yourself selfish?

Voice59 · 04-18-2015, 03:28 PM

I like the way this thread turned... Philosophy, my fave!

vtec to vvel · 04-18-2015, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59

I like the way this thread turned... Philosophy, my fave!

No it's nothing like that. I'm just trying to get Z1nonly to enlighten me.

and btw, your car in your profile looks bada$$!

Leingod · 04-18-2015, 03:34 PM

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vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: 813 Posts: 3,909 Drives: 13 Z Rep Power: 502909	So I presume with your logic, you would say that the person in the wheelchair in the crosswalk would be selfish for holding up traffic? As a human being, I can wait the extra 30 seconds for them to safely cross, rather than being traumatized about witnessing that person being possibly struck and killed by another driver that couldn't "accommodate" them.