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Originally Posted by b15 Agree. Take the Cayman for example, not ground breaking hp, but are praised for their driving experience. It's like an FR-S for grown ups.
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Back in 2009 the Z was outrunning the majority of the domestic v8s of the time. Unfortunately Nissan has left the engine untouched over 6 years, while the domestics stepped up their v8 game. Given the Nissan's lack of performance improvements on the Z, it is still quick, especially given it's an NA v6.
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I really think its a very American muscle car mentality thing to go fast from 0-60. The feeling of accelration is probably the best one on earth. Ripping off the line is pure chaos and there nothing not to love about it. The reason I love my Z is because its equally as fast as those cars after all the bolt ons and a tune, and it is one of the best handling cars around. Personally id rather be connected to the road on a twisty forest trail, and feel like my car is on rails and nimble, with a lot of growl. Hitting the apex and roaring out of it knowing the car is planted...That is exactly what the z gives me. What I always found mind-blowing, beyond 0-60, is coming up on a boosted Porsche and watching the top end speed. The way they absolutely scream from 60-100+ is mind boggling, and a sight to behold. Had the honor of being in 1k+ hp 996 and it was fine off the line, but when that boost hit, my gawd. New underwear please.
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I know what you mean but it has to be the right chassis. I could break the tires lose in the Shelby......going 90....with 1/2 a pedal with the wrong down shift. You never get tired of that SC whine but if people say a z is an impractical car...they should try owning one. A 500 makes a z look like a very practical car considering you can't drive GT500 in the rain without spinning out, or with temps below 40 without different tires etc. While I'm sure that porshe was world's better, at 1k hp I'm sure it had similiar issues. Still, if handling was your number one priority you wouldn't own a Z. You would own one of the other cars I've had.....an RX8. The RX8 makes a z look like a slouch in the handling dept as does a miata. I still have not driven the praised brz but I assume the Rx8 still handles better Having owned all these cars I think what the z gives you is a much better balance of all of these various attributes. Only been in the car for a week, but that's my first imprrssion Last edited by Allentown; 04-03-2015 at 09:17 PM. |
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The Scibaru IMO wasn't noticeably better handling-wise than the Z, but then again it was a test drive and I wasn't thrashing it or anything. What it WAS though was noticeably gutless and cheap-feeling. No thanks. ![]() I'd own a Miata only if it were a dedicated track car that I didn't care about and nobody I knew was ever going to see me in it. Even then I'd consider a v8 swap because they're so slow. ![]() The RX8 is a terrible looking automobile and I doubt I could bring myself to own one even if it were as good as a 911 (which it obviously isn't). When passing up on the 5.0 Mustang I sacrificed some power, some classic good looks, and possibly the best aftermarket in all of motoring. But I got something that looks like a factory race car, isn't all that common, and performance-wise does everything better than average. ![]() FULL DISCLOSURE: What I really want is a Lotus Exige S. Not the wussy NA Elise ragtop, but the supercharged 260hp 0-60 in 4 seconds + handles like a go-cart one. It's possibly the only car I could ever even remotely afford that I'd ditch my NISMO to get.
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The most balanced car I had of all these was a 2010 mustang GT Track pack. It was 300hp with most of the GT500 bits on it.....it had the Gt500 rear diff, clutch and clutch plate, sway bars, brakes, tires, exhaust etc with the intake and tune from the bullet edition. Probably the best example of a mustang ever produced in that era. The power didn't over take the chassis and man it seemed to do everything right. I assume the track pack was the spiritual predecessor to the boss 302 which was also supposedly very good. But mustang guys ARE spec racers and when the 11s came out I fell for the hype and ended up with a stang with a lemon mt-82 transmission in it. Don't get me started on the forums. If you owned a10 model when The 11s came out, you weren't fit to even respond to....you know: because it was a half second slower. The z is better than that car in every way except storage space and engine sound Quote:
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